Around Baseball 2023

[Laika]

I share the sentiment that I don't want to see a game end on a stupid technicality, even if the pitch clock is 90% positives right now. Instead of extensions and similar ideas, maybe something in the vein of fouls to give like in the NBA. For the first 7 innings, the violation comes with a penalty. After the 7th, you have three "violations to give". If your team messed up four times, you kind of deserve to lose the game on a technicality.

 

Something like that might work.

 

Even if it's just a "double fault" system for both teams in the 9th inning and on. i.e., your first fault is forgiven after the 8th inning but all subsequent ones are penalized.

[John_Havok]

I share the sentiment that I don't want to see a game end on a stupid technicality, even if the pitch clock is 90% positives right now. Instead of extensions and similar ideas, maybe something in the vein of fouls to give like in the NBA. For the first 7 innings, the violation comes with a penalty. After the 7th, you have three "violations to give". If your team messed up four times, you kind of deserve to lose the game on a technicality.

 

Interesting idea... but nope IMO. If it's a balk, it's a balk, if you're not in the box, too bad. Players have an entire season + spring training to get used to this. if they can't get used to a rule having 600+ PAs with it, I have little sympathy for them.

 

Would it suck? absolutely. Just like it sucked the other 23 times in baseball history than ended with a walk-off balk. I think people are just imagining in their heads that this problem is somehow going to be rampant and so many games will be decided like this - when that's extremely unlikely.

 

In the minors last season, when the rules were first used, there were about 4 violations per game. After 2 weeks there was less than 2 violations per game. The number keeps going down the longer the rules are in place. By the time any of this matters in the playoffs, it wont be a concern.

 

People are actually inventing hypothetical rage.

[Terminator]

Maybe they could just turn the pitch clock off in the 9th inning if the score is within 3 runs or something

[philly30]

We should probably remove balk calls and runner/defensive interference too as we don't want to see games end like that either

 

Those are rare, and I have seen pitchers that should have been called for a balk but have not in those late inning situations, difference here is there is a clock, people can easily see the violation, where with a balk or interference it is more discretionary

Edited February 27, 2023 by philly30

[Brownie19]

Those are rare, and I have seen pitchers that should have been called for a balk but have not in those late inning situations, difference here is there is a clock, people can easily see the violation, where with a balk or interference it is more discretionary

 

You're suggesting umpires ignore balks on purpose in late game situations because they don't want them to impact the outcome of the game? There is a 0% chance I believe this happens. I mean an umpire may "miss" a balk call, but there's no way I'm going to believe that they see the balk and choose not to call it (as this would also require the other umpires on the field to see and then make the same non-call on purpose). It was just posted above that 23 games have ended on balk calls MLB history. Did those umpires forget to not call them in absolutely the most impactful time of the game (ie, where a balk ends the game)?

 

Balks are rare because pitchers know they are against the rules and the work hard to avoid breaking the rules. The same thing will happen with the pitch clock - especially when the game is on the line.

Edited February 27, 2023 by Brownie19

[Brownie19]

Rob Friedman (@pitchingninja) • Instagram reel

WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM

---

43K likes, 66 comments - pitchingninja on February 27, 2023: "Max Scherzer calling his own Pitches on PitchCom.".

 

That's pretty cool. Baseball is changing!

[Pendleton]

[Grant77]

I think you mean "when Russell Martin threw the ball into Choo's bat" There is zero grey area there. Just people not knowing the rules

 

You're welcome to your own interpretation, but use whatever example you think applies. The point still stands.

[PhillyBlueJay]

I mean - didn't we always hear about how awesome it was to watch Greg Maddux, Mark Buehrle and Doc pitch? Didn't people love how much more pace the game had because these guys would just get it and throw it and you could have games complete in just over 2 hours? I know we're talking about 3 great pitchers, but I think that's the type of pace we're hoping to get. It keeps the defense on their toes more too.

 

Maybe it's easier to put it this way. I never heard someone complain that the games those guys started "went too fast". I certainly hear LOTS of people complain when the Yankee/Red Sox playoff games go 4+ hours (I complained about those also) and while I know they increase the commercials and such in those games - they still f***ing took forever. Is that the type of game you'd rather see? I sure don't.

 

I fully expect once players adjust, it will be a huge positive for baseball.

 

Poor Nomar garciaparra with the Red Sox, if he was around now he would have to retire with all the touching of his body and toe taps between pitches. Jesus, league should have cracked down back then!!!

[Terminator]

 

He wanted to outright pick the Reds to win the WS but it was too bold.

 

So instead he had to come up with a more realistic scenario in which they can win it all in an abbreviated season.

[Terminator]

Poor Nomar garciaparra with the Red Sox, if he was around now he would have to retire with all the touching of his body and toe taps between pitches. Jesus, league should have cracked down back then!!!

 

Yeah I've though of him a couple of times during all this pitch clock talk.

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Yeah I've though of him a couple of times during all this pitch clock talk.

 

Im going with Mike Hargrave....aka the Human Rain Delay! I forget who the announcer was but he jokingly said they're going to run commercials between pitches when Hargrave was at bat.

[wilko]

Yeah I've though of him a couple of times during all this pitch clock talk.

 

What about Pedroia and his tic?

 

[BTS]

The Dodgers pitching staff will be celebrating hard tonight

 

[connorp]

The Dodgers pitching staff will be celebrating hard tonight

 

 

What the f*** is this ********

[L54]

Miguel Rojas time

[G-Snarls]

Ouch ouch ouch

 

Poor Lux...

[wilko]

The Dodgers pitching staff will be celebrating hard tonight

 

 

I don't think your leg is supposed to bend that way...

[BTS]

What the f*** is this ********

 

At least Lux is basically replacement level in 20-team leagues, so this shouldn't hurt you.

[Jonn]

Glassnow hurt again.

[Spanky99]

Yes to pretty much all of this. I enjoy this part of the game especially in a big game situation.

 

Maybe it’ll still feel the same. Hopefully it will.

 

It'll be fine, personally I love the pace of play.

[connorp]

At least Lux is basically replacement level in 20-team leagues, so this shouldn't hurt you.

 

Not everyone taps into their power the same time

[connorp]

Glassnow hurt again.

 

That’s the universe trying to balance out my bad with doing something negative that will effect Spanky and Jim

[Spanky99]

The Dodgers pitching staff will be celebrating hard tonight

 

 

Ouch... that's a blown out knee if I ever saw one.

[Terminator]

Not everyone taps into their power the same time

 

And now he likely never will. Drop him.

[connorp]

And now he likely never will. Drop him.

 

Meh. Luckily we can just have unlimited red flags in all the leagues

[Spanky99]

Glassnow hurt again.

 

An oblique injury, damn.

[Captain_Obvious]

Glassnow hurt again.

 

Unfortunate for him that he is Glassnow instead of Glassnot. So close to being healthy.

 

 

 

 

 

I will see myself out.

[Laika]

Ouch... that's a blown out knee if I ever saw one.

 

Could just be meniscus

 

Might not be a ligament...

[Spanky99]

Could just be meniscus

 

Might not be a ligament...

 

Possibly, sure looked ugly. Both he and Glasnow to have MRI's tomorrow, as expected.