The Blue Jays acquire Jose Berrios from the Minnesota Twins

[Stangstag]

They must have Groshans ranked higher than Martin internally.

 

Feels a little lofty for 1.5 years of Berrios, but maybe he comes with an extension?

 

Yeah I was thinking SWR and Groshans would be hard to swallow... but Martin??? what the f***. He never got to be Bo's flow bro

[DigitalRock]

They must have Groshans ranked higher than Martin internally.

 

Feels a little lofty for 1.5 years of Berrios, but maybe he comes with an extension?

 

imo, need to sign him to an extension, because huge price, I am shocked honestly. Let's see if anything else is in the deal.

[Solaxys]

This is akin to giving up D'Arnaud and Thor for Dickey.

 

Heck even the 150M for Springer had a Vernon Wells vibe.

[Jimcanuck]

Quite an overpay unless the Jays and Berrios have an agreement in principle on an extension. Saw a report mentioning teams had been talking to Berrios agent.

 

If no extension, this was a bad move IMO

[TwistedLogic]

[Terminator]

Remember when Shapiro scolded AA for trading prospects? Lol

[RobinThicc]

If you told me SWR and Martin were on the tables, I'd guess they'd be able to do even better than Berrios

 

That is a crazy move by Atkins.

[Davie]

If somehow Buxton is involved i can breathe abit easier.

 

But man this is what i was concerned about coming into today with all the bidding wars that went on yesterday, that prices today were going to be stupidly high.

[Jonn]

That’s a lot to give up. A lot.

[Dick_Pole]

There's not going to be anyone else in this deal. The team was competing with three others, including the Rays. I knew right away this was going to be an overpay.

[DigitalRock]

This is akin to giving up D'Arnaud and Thor for Dickey.

 

Heck even the 150M for Springer had a Vernon Wells vibe.

 

This is a really bad post, like epic bad.

[Stangstag]

 

 

 

This is exactly what i was just thinking. Although Scherzer probably had control of where he was going and would have vetoed a trade here

[TwistedLogic]

[Terminator]

Dodgers didn’t give up as much for Scherzer and Turner and the Jays gave up a whole lot more for Berrios than they got for Stroman. Crazy

[JG34]

Surely Berrios can’t be the only one coming back at that price?

[glory]

That trade simulator site says that Martin/SWR for Berrios/Buxton would be a fair value deal. Buxton included in this, right?????

[Eat My Shatkins]

Aw f***. What in the hell Atkins.

 

They better get this guy extended immediately.

 

Imagine if there is a lock out next year and then he walks?

 

SWR and Martin for 2 f***ing months of Berrios??

 

What are they thinking?

[Brownie19]

Fire Atkins!

[thatoneguy]

If Berrios isn't lined up for an extension, this is a fireable offense. f***ing ********.

[Stangstag]

 

Still doesn't seem like a reason to sell short on Martin...

 

Has Atkins ever won a medium-high level trade? Stroman trade turned out to be kind of a disaster.. and this one could be worse

[Solaxys]

This is a really bad post, like epic bad.

 

I am not an analytical guy, my bad. This just all feels like it's about to end up as those two deals have in the past. But I am optimistic, we'll see where it goes. Just sad, Martin was an awesome dude to watch.

[Laika]

Apologetics time.

 

Martin and SWR are both putting up bad numbers relative to their prospect status.

The assumption we might have to make is that Toronto thinks they aren't as good as the public industry has them ranked. Maybe Martin's statcast type data is ugly.

[BlueRocky]

LETS f***ING GoooooooooooOoooooo

[DigitalRock]

Apologetics time.

 

Martin and SWR are both putting up bad numbers relative to their prospect status.

The assumption we might have to make is that Toronto thinks they aren't as good as the public industry has them ranked. Maybe Martin's statcast type data is ugly.

 

The team is confident in Groshans and Martinez, so they felt those two were moveable..we better sign berrios to an extension imo.

[Jimcanuck]

Got to wonder if after a year of SWR and Martin the valuations of both has declined, SWR projecting as a back of rotation guy and Martin an OBP guy with limited power and average defense.

 

That's the only explanation I can think of, barring a Berrios extension at a reasonable price.

[Benito]

I've gone from excited, to sad, to pissed. f*** me.

[DigitalRock]

AWFUL trade. They’re not even going to make the playoffs and should be sellers. What the heck are they thinking?

 

With this offense this is far from certain, you from the future? Only need a WC.

[Stangstag]

Apologetics time.

 

Martin and SWR are both putting up bad numbers relative to their prospect status.

The assumption we might have to make is that Toronto thinks they aren't as good as the public industry has them ranked. Maybe Martin's statcast type data is ugly.

 

I heard Martin has some kind of hand injury he's been playing through... maybe they think this injury is a bad one and he'll miss significant development time next year??

[thatoneguy]

f***ING EMBARRASSING *kicks trash can*

[Ray]

Apologetics time.

 

Martin and SWR are both putting up bad numbers relative to their prospect status.

The assumption we might have to make is that Toronto thinks they aren't as good as the public industry has them ranked. Maybe Martin's statcast type data is ugly.

 

Yep