The Blue Jays acquire Jose Berrios from the Minnesota Twins

[RustyTrombone]

Brutal to give up that much. Maybe could have been fair if they threw in Donaldson and Taylor.

[G-Snarls]

Hahaha uhhhh I guess Austin Martin could be mediocre but shouldn't he alone be enough for Berrios?

 

They must have been in a serious bidding war

 

Only a playoff appearance reduces the sting of this trade

[DigitalRock]

They must have been in a serious bidding war

 

Only a playoff appearance reduces the sting of this trade

 

Extnesion imo is key..they have to sign him longer term to give up those 2.

[thatoneguy]

Exactly, trade seems like overpay but some reactions here are bad.

 

It is a horrid trade given the uncertainty of next season, less so if a lockout wasn't looming like a black cloud on the horizon.

[G-Snarls]

In a 5 game series throwing Berrios, Ray and Ryu seems pretty excellent

 

Steep price to pay though

 

And there's a long way to to try and make it to the ALDS

[Jays24]

Dude - that only works if you assume we have an unlimited team budget. Berrios makes $6.1M this year. Who were you signing for that amount as a FA who's as good as Berrios (who also wanted to play for Toronto)?

 

Look at our overall payroll, we're like 50 million less than our usual competing years. We gave up 2 amazing prospects for 1.5 years of Berrios and then what do you expect his contract to be? Just a joke of a trade.

[TwistedLogic]

It's set in stone. Time to come to grips with it.

 

[TwistedLogic]

You know there is another season after this one right? Berrios is signed for next season..its not just about this year.

 

"Like someone said, a lockout next year could even essentially make Berrios a rental."

[Brownie19]

Really feels like this deal should have included a Kirilloff or a Royce Lewis - or another piece to help us now like Rogers. Some sort of bone.

[Jimcanuck]

Kevin Smith > Austin Martin, anyway

[DigitalRock]

"Like someone said, a lockout next year could even essentially make Berrios a rental."

 

If's could's, maybes...we will see. I cannot see them being dumb enough to lock out the league again after a pandemic. IMO it's more about signing him to an extension then a lockout./

[Benito]

I really hope this works out. Ray, Ryu, and Berrios can help team go on a run and make push for playoffs. Still only 4.5 back of 2nd WC.

 

No one knows what Martin and SWR will eventually turn into, but right now, the loss of Martin hurts.

[Jays24]

They must have been in a serious bidding war

 

Only a playoff appearance reduces the sting of this trade

 

Why the hell do we even need to get into a bidding war to 1.5 years of Berrios? There needs to be an extension involved or we just got raped. Imagine if there's a work stoppage...

[RobinThicc]

Man, it just feels like if went around the league and said we'll package SWR and Martin, you couldve gotten more value for them.

[DigitalRock]

Why the hell do we even need to get into a bidding war to 1.5 years of Berrios? There needs to be an extension involved or we just got raped.

 

Maybe the team does not view martin as highly as the fanbase....

[Brownie19]

"Like someone said, a lockout next year could even essentially make Berrios a rental."

 

I think we have to assume that Shatkins has a good read on that situation. A much better read then reports and the general public. I'm still baffled you couldn't have gotten a young arm with like 3+ years of control for that cost.

[Dick_Pole]

LOL at the whining over picking up pitchers via free agency. Berrios for Martin and SWR > Gerrit Cole for $350 million. Also, didn't the Jays just pick up a guy in Ryu via that route?

[max silver]

Damn if that was the price for Berrios then the Jays should have just moved on. Is Berrios even a top of the rotation pitcher? Two top 50 prospects for a number 3 pitcher who only has 1 year and two months of control is far too steep a price for a team that is only battling for a wild card spot.

[Laika]

Again, obviously the Blue Jays don't really think Martin and SWR are both top 50 prospects. They probably have some doubts after watching them all year.

[Jimcanuck]

Better be another move for more bullpen help, Ryu-Ray-Berrios can't go 9 every start.

[Brownie19]

Damn if that was the price for Berrios then the Jays should have just moved on. Is Berrios even a top of the rotation pitcher? Two top 50 prospects for a number 3 pitcher who only has 1 year and two months of control is far too steep a price for a team that is only battling for a wild card spot.

 

He's the 8th best pitcher in the AL right now. I'm not sure that's equivalent to a #3 starter (unless he was on the White Sox I guess).

[G-Snarls]

Will enjoy watching him pitch for us that's for sure

 

Really really wish they hadn't sent Martin though damn

 

Mixed feelings big time

 

He was our best pick in YEARS

[DigitalRock]

Again, obviously the Blue Jays don't really think Martin and SWR are both top 50 prospects. They probably have some doubts after watching them all year.

 

Yeah that would be my guess, plus confidence in Groshans and MArtinez.

[BTS]

I don't care much for this. And as annoying as Stroman is, him and Berrios project about the same this year. Would have probably just been smarter to keep him.

[Jimcanuck]

Damn if that was the price for Berrios then the Jays should have just moved on. Is Berrios even a top of the rotation pitcher? Two top 50 prospects for a number 3 pitcher who only has 1 year and two months of control is far too steep a price for a team that is only battling for a wild card spot.

 

Berrios is definitely a front of the rotation pitcher. He and Ryu are like 1A and 1B.

[DigitalRock]

Damn if that was the price for Berrios then the Jays should have just moved on. Is Berrios even a top of the rotation pitcher? Two top 50 prospects for a number 3 pitcher who only has 1 year and two months of control is far too steep a price for a team that is only battling for a wild card spot.

 

LOLOLOLOL. Third string starter? Oh please he is top ten pitcher in the league right now... You can not like the deal and not exaggerate to make a point.

[Jays24]

Maybe the team does not view martin as highly as the fanbase....

 

The league clearly values Martin as everyone is saying we paid too high of a price. Look at what the Padres and Dodgers have been giving up in their trades. That's how you get things done.

 

We wasted half a season with no bullpen and a whatever rotation. Just a panic trade by Shatkins when there was no reason to.

[KevinGregg]

Also remember what the Jays did with Ray last year. Berrios might magically become really good down the stretch

[FantasyNewb]

Such a dumb f***ing trade no matter how you spin it.

[Brownie19]

Look at our overall payroll, we're like 50 million less than our usual competing years. We gave up 2 amazing prospects for 1.5 years of Berrios and then what do you expect his contract to be? Just a joke of a trade.

 

Did you miss that we just went through a pandemic? Ya think that might affect Ownership's willingness to spend?