GDT (3/3) | Blue Jays (17-15) @ Astros (17-16) | May 9 — 2:10 PM

[204BJs]

Still early

[Jays24]

Hopefully the casuals can stop talking about bringing Manoah up asap now. These guys need reps in the minors for a reason

 

It's exactly what I was saying to start the thread. People are always green on prospects. You cannot mark anyone in your rotation who has not proven it on this stage. We're gonna have to make a move very soon or our season will be a wash.

[Jgarza868899]

Why are they playing the infield in? It's the third inning.

Every run is crucial with the great Greinke on the mound

[JFD]

Hopefully the casuals can stop talking about bringing Manoah up asap now. These guys need reps in the minors for a reason

 

Why not see what Manoah is capable of? They aren't the same person...

[Slyfisher]

Looks like Tellez brought his struggles at the plate onto the field.. He should be kept in AAA to figure s*** out..

 

I know, injuries

[Jgarza868899]

Then you don't know what is wrong. There no kinks. Its a pitcher who lost his balls every time he comes up to the majors

This.

[Spanky99]

We're gonna have to make a move very soon or our season will be a wash.

 

Wow!

[43211234]

Yikes.

 

I think he still makes his next start in the majors but that was ugly.

[G-Snarls]

Dammit

 

Not the Pearson start we wanted

[Stangstag]

Why not see what Manoah is capable of? They aren't the same person...

 

Because as I said.... these guys need reps in the minors

[bones10]

I would say there was actually zero good takeaways from this game for Nate. Everything looked awful.

[43211234]

Then you don't know what is wrong. There no kinks. Its a pitcher who lost his balls every time he comes up to the majors

 

Huh?

 

He was so scared that he couldn't hit McGuire's glove?

[max silver]

I would say there was actually zero good takeaways from this game for Nate. Everything looked awful.

 

He didn't appear to reinjure himself at least.

[JFD]

Because as I said.... these guys need reps in the minors

 

Just because Pearson has the yips doesn't mean Manoah will. Worth a look

[Jays24]

Wow!

 

You don't think we need to address our starting pitching? We have 2 good starters right now and a wild card in Matz. If you think we can go the whole season with this rotation and be a contender then I completely disagree.

 

Also, it is highly unlikely our bullpen will trend how they have been for 162 games considering most are unknown scrubs and will be worn out by then

[DigitalRock]

Game is not over.

[Slyfisher]

It would be really nice if we could hit on a prospect pitcher who makes it to the majors and dominates!

[Daniel Labude]

Because as I said.... these guys need reps in the minors

 

No. There is no point in them owning the minors. The issue isn't in the minors its in the majors. Nothing in the minors can fix that. He needs MLB reps

[DigitalRock]

Huh?

 

He was so scared that he couldn't hit McGuire's glove?

 

I mean he never had control issues until the majors...anxiety can really mess with you, what else would it be?

[Jgarza868899]

Just because Pearson has the yips doesn't mean Manoah will. Worth a look

Yep.

[Scion]

We are fortunate to only be down 3, but now we need the bats to wake up.

[Scion]

No. There is no point in them owning the minors. The issue isn't in the minors its in the majors. Nothing in the minors can fix that. He needs MLB reps

 

You are speaking very confidently for someone who is just speculating like the rest of us.

[saskjayfan]

Just because Pearson has the yips doesn't mean Manoah will. Worth a look

 

He needs to trust his stuff. His command was off, just set your sights over the middle of the plate and attack. Good learning experience. He needs to go through mental ups and downs.

 

Pearson just needs to pitch. I look forward to his next start. As far as the Manoah vs Pearson thing. I hope Manoah is better than Pearson, because Pearson is going to be very good. It's not like we only have room for one or the other. There's room for both of them in this rotation.

[Daniel Labude]

Huh?

 

He was so scared that he couldn't hit McGuire's glove?

 

He has admitted to trying to nibble on the corners not wanting to throw over the plate to MLB hitters, not trusting his stuff. He said it caused the issues last year and in ST this year. In the minors he just throws strikes cause he knows his stuff can't be hit. He is pitching scared in the majors again. Only thing to fix that is to pitch in the majors

[King]

I mean he never had control issues until the majors...anxiety can really mess with you, what else would it be?

While I agree it's likely mental I don't know if this is entirely true. A lot of higher end pitchers can get by in the minors with overpowering stuff and posting low walk rates. Look at Jose Berrios when he first came up. The command issues sometimes don't present themselves until the highest level.

 

His stuff was garbage today. His fastball was 93-98 and had 20 command and he didn't get any whiffs on his slider or changeup. This was very discouraging start.

[DigitalRock]

While I agree it's likely mental I don't know if this is entirely true. A lot of higher end pitchers can get by in the minors with overpowering stuff and posting low walk rates. Look at Jose Berrios when he first came up.

 

His stuff was garbage today. His fastball was 93-98 and had 20 command and he didn't get any whiffs on his slider or changeup. This was very discouraging start.

 

just speculating at the end of the day, im sure he will figure it out.

[Daniel Labude]

You are speaking very confidently for someone who is just speculating like the rest of us.

 

Pearson has said this. Its not speculation

[Spanky99]

He didn't appear to reinjure himself at least.

 

It's the small things, lol. Healthy and the stuff looks great, fugly line though.

[King]

It's the small things, lol. Healthy and the stuff looks great, fugly line though.

The stuff looked like s*** lol. What?

[DigitalRock]

Grenke is amazing to watch.