Trevor Bauer to the Dodgers for WAY too much money.

[saskjayfan]

Yeah

 

No matter what you do deGrom goes every 5

 

I mean Degrom, Bauer, Carrasco, Stroman and eventually Syndergaard mid season. Now that is a rotation..lol.

[Krylian]

I mean Degrom, Bauer, Carrasco, Stroman and eventually Syndergaard mid season. Now that is a rotation..lol.

 

2 of them will be hurt for a chunk of the season.

[G-Snarls]

I mean Degrom, Bauer, Carrasco, Stroman and eventually Syndergaard mid season. Now that is a rotation..lol.

 

It's killer if they get/stay healthy

[Brownie19]

2 of them will be hurt for a chunk of the season.

 

which 2?

[dineke]

2? At least 3, it is the mets afterall

[Krylian]

which 2?

 

That would be a good pool.

[jerb]

 

Joel Sherman

@Joelsherman1

 

Heard #Mets set a noon deadline Eastern with Bauer today. Heard the deal has opt outs after 1st 2 yrs. Worth about $40M in year 1 and then again in year 2. Worth less in year 3. Total is between $100M-$110M. Feels like decision is next few hours, 1 way or the other.

[Jays24]

 

Joel Sherman

@Joelsherman1

 

Heard #Mets set a noon deadline Eastern with Bauer today. Heard the deal has opt outs after 1st 2 yrs. Worth about $40M in year 1 and then again in year 2. Worth less in year 3. Total is between $100M-$110M. Feels like decision is next few hours, 1 way or the other.

 

Pretty much saying it's last call if any other teams want to beat the offer, which I doubt. 3/110 or 2/80 is a great short term deal for Bauer.

[G-Snarls]

[Brownie19]

Pretty much saying it's last call if any other teams want to beat the offer, which I doubt. 3/110 or 2/80 is a great short term deal for Bauer.

 

I think the Jays should be all over a deal like this. I think this is perfect timing for the Jays to do something like this and have no problem giving him an AAV of $35M to $40M for a couple of years before our own home grown talent needs an extension.

[Jays24]

I think the Jays should be all over a deal like this. I think this is perfect timing for the Jays to do something like this and have no problem giving him an AAV of $35M to $40M for a couple of years before our own home grown talent needs an extension.

 

I agree... we have a 3/4 window where we can do stuff like this. Then we might become the Astros who will struggle to retain their own talent, let alone acquiring new talent.

[Jimcanuck]

Yes, but a word of caution. The closer a player gets to free agency, the harder and more expensive it is to retain.

[Ehjays]

 

Joel Sherman

@Joelsherman1

 

Heard #Mets set a noon deadline Eastern with Bauer today. Heard the deal has opt outs after 1st 2 yrs. Worth about $40M in year 1 and then again in year 2. Worth less in year 3. Total is between $100M-$110M. Feels like decision is next few hours, 1 way or the other.

 

Thank god the end is near with his drama

[connorp]

When he signs with the Mets, someone needs to tweet ”Nightendouche does NOT get any credit for breaking this”

[Spanky99]

Yes, but a word of caution. The closer a player gets to free agency, the harder and more expensive it is to retain.

 

Ya don't say.gif

[Jimcanuck]

Ya don't say.gif

 

Ya well it seems to be a not uncommon line of thinking that the Jays can max out payroll right up until Vlad and the rest become free agents.

[BTS]

Ya well it seems to be a not uncommon line of thinking that the Jays can max out payroll right up until Vlad and the rest become free agents.

 

I feel like Vlad's FA contract will be a fraction of what guys like Bichette, Pearson, and even Biggio end up earning. In a world where you can rent Nelson Cruz for a year at a time for <15M, Vlad will either have to become a viable defensive player or become like a 160 wRC+ bat to get a lucrative long-term deal.

[Brownie19]

Ya well it seems to be a not uncommon line of thinking that the Jays can max out payroll right up until Vlad and the rest become free agents.

 

Buying out their arbitration years doesn't mean we start giving them $25M a year in day 1. I don't think signing our studs to extensions now wouldn't have a huge impact on the payroll for the next few years.

[glory]

I like the fact that Bauer is looking at AAV instead of years. Too many MLB free agents just want the most total dollars, even it's spread out over 12 years or deferred. That's not a bad thing, but they don't seem to care as much about AAV. Bauer is not only betting on himself, with some cushion in the form of opt outs, but if that Mets offer is true, then in 2021-23 he'll be making about the same total dollars as Trout (who will get $111.35 million over that span). The risk obviously is injury and decline, and there's no guarantee he's getting another big contract after 2023 if either of those two things happen, but at least he'd be paid really well for whatever is left of his prime. Interesting way to go about free agency. I wonder if he would have went this route in a normal market where more teams would have been in on him and would have been willing to go longer. I guess we'll know next year if he gets that contract and opts out.

[Jimcanuck]

I feel like Vlad's FA contract will be a fraction of what guys like Bichette, Pearson, and even Biggio end up earning. In a world where you can rent Nelson Cruz for a year at a time for <15M, Vlad will either have to become a viable defensive player or become like a 160 wRC+ bat to get a lucrative long-term deal.

 

Oh I agree but Jays need to maintain flexibility, never know if through negotiations an Albies style contract can be had for Biggio or, please god, Bichette

[Brownie19]

I like the fact that Bauer is looking at AAV instead of years. Too many MLB free agents just want the most total dollars, even it's spread out over 12 years or deferred. That's not a bad thing, but they don't seem to care as much about AAV. Bauer is not only betting on himself, with some cushion in the form of opt outs, but if that Mets offer is true, then in 2021-23 he'll be making about the same total dollars as Trout (who will get $111.35 million over that span). The risk obviously is injury and decline, and there's no guarantee he's getting another big contract after 2023 if either of those two things happen, but at least he'd be paid really well for whatever is left of his prime. Interesting way to go about free agency. I wonder if he would have went this route in a normal market where more teams would have been in on him and would have been willing to go longer. I guess we'll know next year if he gets that contract and opts out.

 

Bauer is smart - as the opt-outs allow him to hedge his bet. If he's awesome, he re-enters the market, if he sucks, he doesn't opt out and still gets his $100M.

[Carlos Danger]

How does the MLB pension work? I heard it is quite lucrative. In other words, if you had a $125 million dollar contract for 3 yrs vs 5 would you be eligible for a higher rate of or more pension assuming you play in MLB for 2 or 3 additional years? Is that a substantial number or not enough to even consider...?

[Orgfiller]

I like the fact that Bauer is looking at AAV instead of years. Too many MLB free agents just want the most total dollars, even it's spread out over 12 years or deferred. That's not a bad thing, but they don't seem to care as much about AAV. Bauer is not only betting on himself, with some cushion in the form of opt outs, but if that Mets offer is true, then in 2021-23 he'll be making about the same total dollars as Trout (who will get $111.35 million over that span). The risk obviously is injury and decline, and there's no guarantee he's getting another big contract after 2023 if either of those two things happen, but at least he'd be paid really well for whatever is left of his prime. Interesting way to go about free agency. I wonder if he would have went this route in a normal market where more teams would have been in on him and would have been willing to go longer. I guess we'll know next year if he gets that contract and opts out.

 

Keep in mind for a lot of players it's not just the financial security, but the stability of knowing that this will be your home for the next 5+ years. If you're a family man, knowing that you don't have to move your kids around every 1-2 years has to be a strong consideration for these guys. The mercenary approach to free agency might be good for Bauer and free agency as a whole - as it sets a precedent for value on short term deals for good players - but I have to imagine it's not something most players would choose even knowing that they might get the highest AAV out of it as opposed to signing a long-term, 6-7+ year contract.

 

It's why no-trade clauses exist in the first place and why the top tier players often demand them.

[itaos]

How does the MLB pension work? I heard it is quite lucrative. In other words, if you had a $125 million dollar contract for 3 yrs vs 5 would you be eligible for a higher rate of or more pension assuming you play in MLB for 2 or 3 additional years? Is that a substantial number or not enough to even consider...?

 

Kicks in at 43 days service time and 10 years gets you the max rate.

 

One day of service time gets them full medical benefits, which is quite useful in the US

[Jimcanuck]

Bauer is smart - as the opt-outs allow him to hedge his bet. If he's awesome, he re-enters the market, if he sucks, he doesn't opt out and still gets his $100M.

 

Of course, its elementary

[Ray]

Bauer is such a troll.....

 

[jerb]

 

Jon Heyman

@JonHeyman

 

Word going around is, Bauer wants to make the announcement. A la an impromptu LeBron. #TheDecision

[Abomination]

 

Jon Heyman

@JonHeyman

 

Word going around is, Bauer wants to make the announcement. A la an impromptu LeBron. #TheDecision

 

It would be hilarious if the team doesn't know they've won until he makes the announcement.

[Laika]

This guy sucks

[Carlos Danger]

Kicks in at 43 days service time and 10 years gets you the max rate.

 

One day of service time gets them full medical benefits, which is quite useful in the US

 

So once you reach 10 yrs a fixed amount. No difference in the amount if you have 15 yrs vs 10 or 12 vs 10 ect?

 

Thanks