Fire Charlie Montoyo - The thread worked guys!

[L54]

Have no fear though big game Manoah takes the bump tomorrow and that guy has brass balls.

 

Stroman confidence but way better dude

[Terminator]

Have no fear though big game Manoah takes the bump tomorrow and that guy has brass balls.

 

Stroman confidence but way better dude

 

I hope he fights the manager Ted Lilly style after Chuckles takes him out of the game in the 8th inning as we cling on to a 1-0 lead

[Terminator]

Can the high performance team or whatever they call themselves please give Chuckles some testosterone booster shots please? That guy has zero balls

[Laika]

So to defend Charlie...

 

Toronto is a different team than New York. Different personnel. Toronto guys may have already been struggling this year with putting too much pressure on themselves. Maybe his approach to things is good for his team right now

 

Give him the benefit of the bongos

[JFD]

So to defend Charlie...

 

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[L54]

So to defend Charlie...

 

Toronto is a different team than New York. Different personnel. Toronto guys may have already been struggling this year with putting too much pressure on themselves. Maybe his approach to things is good for his team right now

 

Give him the benefit of the bongos

 

Ya you’re probably right. Boone has a bunch of old f*** you vets like Cole and Donny who have been there done that.

 

The Jays meanwhile are quite a bit greener while having really high expectations. Charlie’s style does mesh well with this team.

[bigpaulie]

Not sure if this has been discussed

 

But who is the ideal replacement?

[Omar]

Interesting that in the post game scrum Charlie said twice, "they've got a great bullpen" when referring to the Yankees.. Pushing some heat back on Atkins.

[Dagagad]

To defend charlie… people who think that it matters if he calls it a big series or not are … not super reasonable people?

 

Let’s keep the manager who like all managers doesn’t make THAT much of a difference and concentrate on not having the worst bullpen in the division.

Edited June 18, 2022 by Dagagad

[Grant77]

Not sure if this has been discussed

 

But who is the ideal replacement?

 

John Gibbons

[glory]

I am now sad that Donaldson wasn't managed by Montoyo at least for a few months. No chance Charlie gets away with his "it's ok boys we tried" mindset.

 

We joke around about "vetrin presents", but with Charlie managing, I think we need a lot more of it. Preferably the good kind, and not the washed Joe Panik kind.

[Dagagad]

It always amazes me that people always just jump right past the ‘how good are their pitchers compared to ours in this game’ and go right to ‘we just need a firmer hand in the clubhouse’.

 

Like, why not go for the obvious stuff first? Lol..

 

Give Charlie the Yankees bullpen, give it a few months and then let’s figure out if we need a firmer hand in the clubhouse.

[Deadpool]

Not sure if this has been discussed

 

But who is the ideal replacement?

 

John Gibbons is the evergreen answer to this question.

[RobinThicc]

 

Says it all really

 

I dont mind this, actually.

 

With Stripling and Kikuchi making two starts in this series, they were always going to lose the series. So he down played it. Makes sense to me.

[Spanky99]

I dont mind this, actually.

 

With Stripling and Kikuchi making two starts in this series, they were always going to lose the series. So he down played it. Makes sense to me.

 

K.....

[gruber92]

I dont mind this, actually.

 

With Stripling and Kikuchi making two starts in this series, they were always going to lose the series. So he down played it. Makes sense to me.

 

You're sadder than Chuckles himself

[wilko]

I dont mind this, actually.

 

With Stripling and Kikuchi making two starts in this series, they were always going to lose the series. So he down played it. Makes sense to me.

 

Cuck.

[RobinThicc]

Cuck.

Thats rich coming from you

[Omar]

I love how this thread is bumped after every loss.

[Stangstag]

 

Cost them the game

 

Someone should ask Charlie about this post-game but they probably wont

[connorp]

I love how this thread is bumped after every loss.

 

Kind of how it goes for mlb manager. All about the team you have on paper. If they’re performing, you ride their coattails to job security and if they don’t, it’s the opposite.

[Spanky99]

 

Cost them the game

 

That's not on Chuckles, man? That's on their internal analytics if anything.

 

Now bunting in extras with a man already on 2nd base as the visiting team is questionable, downright dumn! IMO.

[connorp]

That's not on Chuckles, man? That's on their internal analytics if anything.

 

Now bunting in extras with a man already on 2nd base as the visiting team is questionable, downright dumn! IMO.

 

Was not bro. You set up one of your star players for an opportunity to win the game with just a SF. Then your best player with 2 RISP. They didn’t come through. It was the right call all day

[connorp]

Spanky the Hidnsight Superstar. Figures

[Spanky99]

Was not bro. You set up one of your star players for an opportunity to win the game with just a SF. Then your best player with 2 RISP. They didn’t come through. It was the right call all day

 

Speaking of Dumn^^^^

[connorp]

Speaking of Dumn^^^^

 

Hey Spanky, tell us how we should’ve signed Rodon. Or traded for Clay Holmes this off-season

[John_Havok]

Was not bro. You set up one of your star players for an opportunity to win the game with just a SF. Then your best player with 2 RISP. They didn’t come through. It was the right call all day

 

Debatable. Giving away 33% of your remaining outs for a very marginal increase in run expectancy does not generally make sense.

[Dagagad]

It definitely was not the right call to bunt.

 

In saying that, Charlie gets way too much blame for being handed a pen that projects to average and can strike no one out. Give him the Yankees pen, and we aren’t having a lot of these conversations.

 

This isn’t super rational but a part of me also thinks that you can’t really have teo and Bo on the same team long term. I just always feel like you can only have so many potential ‘easy outs’ on a team. As long as you don’t leave one to hit, both those guys will get you out of a jam. They are both great hitters. I’d just like to swap one of them for a guy of similar talent who can put together a good PA in some of these spots. I’d heavily consider trading Teo in the off-season.

[connorp]

Debatable. Giving away 33% of your remaining outs for a very marginal increase in run expectancy does not generally make sense.

 

Anything is debatable of course. If Bo hits a SF it was brilliant. The star players were wide open for the shot at the buzzer and they missed.

[Laika]

Just ask the run expectancy matrix.

 

Zero outs and men on 1st and 2nd:

 

1.373

 

One out and men on 2nd and 3rd:

 

1.352

 

 

So it's basically a neutral decision. But it was Biggio vs. a s***** RHP which is probably a favourable matchup. I think that fact makes the bunt decision bad. If they were giving up a PA that was Biggio vs. a LHP or a good reliver then sure, it's neutral.