Fire Charlie Montoyo - The thread worked guys!

[Dagagad]

You think Larussa, AJ Hinch, Boone, Dave Roberts are employed for vibes?

 

I do know that every yankee fan on Reddit wanted to can Boone last year. He wasn’t getting enough out of the team, bad lineups and bad bullpen usage!!

[Omar]

I do know that every yankee fan on Reddit wanted to can Boone last year. He wasn’t getting enough out of the team, bad lineups and bad bullpen usage!!

 

That's every year. Yankees fans were s***ing on Joe Torre the season after winning a World Series. But you didn't answer my question, do you think those managers are employed because of "vibes"? Because to say yes is absurd.

[Dagagad]

That's every year. Yankees fans were s***ing on Joe Torre the season after winning a World Series. But you didn't answer my question, do you think those managers are employed because of "vibes"? Because to say yes is absurd.

 

They may as well be. Boone is a great manager because Yankees pitching dev and evaluation is elite. A trained f***ing chimp would make the playoffs every year. That front office is insanely good.

 

Can Charlie or not. Who cares… the front office and development staff is responsible for 95% of your success and failure.

[Stangstag]

I do know that every yankee fan on Reddit wanted to can Boone last year. He wasn’t getting enough out of the team, bad lineups and bad bullpen usage!!

 

Yeah he was literally 1-2 regular season losses away from being fired and now the Yankees are the best team in baseball this year.

[JFD]

Nobody is getting fired after the tragedy, until the offseason

[Solaxys]

Yankees fired both of their hitting coaches and the 3B coach last year.

They also overhauled their pitching development/scouting & fired their pitching coach in 2019.

 

That is what should happen here as well, irrespective of the results this year.

Too many baserunning mistakes & defensive miscues, your budding superstars struggling to make good contact against above-average pitching, your 131M pitching investment struggling to pitch well after 4.5 years of excellent consistency - these things all should be accountable before you bother Charlie and his once-in-a-while outlandish bullpen decision.

[Dagagad]

Yankees fired both of their hitting coaches and the 3B coach last year.

They also overhauled their pitching development/scouting & fired their pitching coach in 2019.

 

They didn't magically become a superpower.

 

2019 is only 3 years ago. Interesting….

[Solaxys]

2019 is only 3 years ago. Interesting….

 

That's when they snagged Cortes (2019), King (2020), Holmes (2021), Taillon (2021), Castro (2022). They still signed Cole to an obscene contract but he still pitches enough innings to earn the contract.

But before you go, "their FO", Cashman has had the seat since 1998 and has had a LOT of failed projects, like the list is spectacular.

He only 'caught up' to the trend once he noticed that Rays got 96 wins on an 80M payroll while the Yankees got 103 on a 203M payroll.

 

We will see what Atkins does and if he adapts as the Yankees did.

This is 2nd year in a true contention window (but the way our players are playing, I don't even know if you call this a contention window, maybe a winning record one?), and all we can really hope that he makes the changes before he chews through Vlad, Manoah and Bo's Arb years.

[Dagagad]

That's when they snagged Cortes (2019), King (2020), Holmes (2021), Taillon (2021), Castro (2022). They still signed Cole to an obscene contract but he still pitches enough innings to earn the contract.

But before you go, "their FO", Cashman has had the seat since 1998.

He only 'caught up' to the trend once he noticed that Rays got 96 wins on an 80M payroll while the Yankees got 103 on a 203M payroll.

 

We will see what Atkins does and if he adapts as the Yankees did.

This is 2nd year in a true contention window (but the way our players are playing, I don't even know if you call this a contention window, maybe a winning record one?), and all we can really hope that he makes the changes before he chews through Vlad, Manoah and Bo's Arb years.

 

They have time. But if they have to buy this year they have to. The window has to take precedence over the farm.

 

I don’t understand how Cleveland were so good at this (and still are, they have an amazing group of pitchers in the minors) and we aren’t.

[Solaxys]

Sorry, Rays had 50M payroll in 2019, not 80.

[L54]

They have time. But if they have to buy this year they have to. The window has to take precedence over the farm.

 

I don’t understand how Cleveland were so good at this (and still are, they have an amazing group of pitchers in the minors) and we aren’t.

 

I’m fine with us missing the playoffs if we don’t burn any more assets and it means they fire this FO.

 

Do you want the Jays to buy or keep their assets??

[Dagagad]

Do you want the Jays to buy or keep their assets??

 

Ignore the second dagagad. He was mad with angry passion.

 

We buy big, buy small, or sell completely based on playoff odds and injuries. It’s the only way.

[5ToolPhenom]

Montoyo's gotta go. This is getting ridiculous!

 

If someone told you at the beginning of the year that by July 10th we'd be 16.5 game back of 1st place and only 2 games ahead of Baltimore, you'd say changes need to be made. If the Canadian media monopoly didn't literally own the Blue Jays, the media would be tearing this team apart. I can't believe how many free passes Chuckles gets. It's time to make a change.

[Jaysareus]

Stop using the trajic death as an excuse for their losses

[wilko]

Fire sale time. Fire all coaches and sell assets. Move the team to Montreal.

[Omar]

It’s Time to Fire Charlie Montoyo

 

https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/its_time_to_fire_charlie_montoyo_next_week/s1_13549_37666273

[Krylian]

Fire sale time. Fire all coaches and sell assets. Move the team to Montreal.

 

I don't think I would realistically ever accept Montreal poaching the Jays. Could never stomach them enjoying any success by the Jays.

[wilko]

It’s Time to Fire Charlie Montoyo

 

https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/its_time_to_fire_charlie_montoyo_next_week/s1_13549_37666273

 

Thanks for the article Gideon!

[Spanky99]

It’s Time to Fire Charlie Montoyo

 

https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/its_time_to_fire_charlie_montoyo_next_week/s1_13549_37666273

 

Interesting, apparently Gideon and I think alike...

[L54]

Bring back Gibby

[Krylian]

Bring back Gibby

 

Isn't it Cito's turn in line?

[wilko]

Isn't it Cito's turn in line?

 

Gene Tenace?

[Omar]

Bring back Gibby

 

Isn't it Cito's turn in line?

 

Gene Tenace?

 

You're all crazy. Bobby Cox is the correct answer.

[glory]

If they fire Charlie then it’s going to be Schneider replacing him. I don’t know if that’s better or the same (can’t be worse, I hope).

[JFD]

What happens when the teams still sucks after firing Charlie?

 

That's why he likely won't be fired this season..

 

Shatkins is running a long con for job security

[wilko]

What happens when the teams still sucks after firing Charlie?

 

That's why he likely won't be fired this season..

 

Shatkins is running a long con for job security

 

[Omar]

The universe tends to unfold as it should.

[Stangstag]

We did it boys. Close this thread

[JaysAllMighty]

Yes, the circus is over!

[John_Havok]

Only took 87 pages!!! A new record.