Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Owners probably aren't against it but they would use it as a bargaining chip in the next CBA. We'll give you the DH if you give us X. I guess they would say they have to spend more $ on an extra hitter in the NL but I doubt they actually care about that. It's gotten to the point where a. DH-only players barely get paid and b. a good roster can be constructed so that a full time DH is never needed. I don't think this is much of a concern any more as it once was.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Put the damn DH in the NL already. No one wants to see a pitcher hit unless it’s someone like Ohtani.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Author Posted January 28, 2020 I'm pretty sure the only side that argue FOR pitchers hitting is NL fans in their antiquated view that it actually adds something (positive) to the game. If the baseball subreddit is any indication (yes Reddit is a cesspool but there's a large community there) then there are a large number of fans that actually want to keep the DH to the AL only. Granted, I'm sure this is a change that people would forget and welcome a couple of years after it is implemented. I’m pretty sure another argument they use is that a universal DH makes the AL/NL split meaningless. As you say, I’m sure they’ll get over it.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/01/27/espn-moving-jessica-mendoza-out-of-sunday-night-booth-with-more-changes-possible/ This is the best thing to come out of the Astros cheating scandal.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 I’m pretty sure another argument they use is that a universal DH makes the AL/NL split meaningless. As you say, I’m sure they’ll get over it. There are already way too many inter-league games IMO, so the split pretty much IS meaningless. At least this will make inter-league suck less.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Probably a good lock on the Mike Fiers thread. Whichever boring mod made that boring decision - good boring job.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Does this make Fiers a good trade candidate? The front office should be asking on him. Could be a good trade chip at the deadline.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 The Astros are hiring Dusty Baker to be their Manager. Nothing says "don't worry, we won't be using technology to steal signs (or for anything) anymore" than hiring Dusty Baker. This is such a bizarre fit. Progressive FO meets old school head on.
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 The Astros are hiring Dusty Baker to be their Manager. Nothing says "don't worry, we won't be using technology to steal signs (or for anything) anymore" than hiring Dusty Baker. They just regressed back to prehistoric times.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Dusty Baker is the fnnn worst possible choice that org could make... I am not even a Houston fan but what were they thinking.. Dusty Baker will meddle along in the reg season and blow it for you in the playoffs and is all about veterans playing over young etc even if they suck... I am going to all my Fantasy teams to dump all my Astros assets.. LOL Talk about a BS PC move! Arggg
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Damn,, Ole Dusty and the Astros are getting destroyed in the comments section of MLBtraderumors on FB... Every thing they are saying is on point, but, I feel kinda bad for Ole Dusty, even though I wouldn't want him within 10 country miles of my manager's position.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 A disciplinarian who wants to be all the players friend. The conflicted manager...that is exactly what the Astros needed
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 I used to value any pitcher in the Astros system. Now prepare for volume prices on TJ surgery....
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 You know what else is F#$d up... The Astros hire a Manager before their GM so now the GM is stuck with Baker... If he talks s*** about him he won't get the position and if he bites his tongue and get's the position, he has to live with him. Totally ass backwards if you ask me.. GM first then Manager, if both are vacant.. Not like there is a long line-up trying to kick in Dusty's door and offer him a job..
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 You know what else is F#$d up... The Astros hire a Manager before their GM so now the GM is stuck with Baker... If he talks s*** about him he won't get the position and if he bites his tongue and get's the position, he has to live with him. Totally ass backwards if you ask me.. GM first then Manager, if both are vacant.. Not like there is a long line-up trying to kick in Dusty's door and offer him a job.. Seems like a rush job to get a manager in there before ST.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 So is dusty Baker going to use drums or something more classy like a saxophone
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Luis Urias underwent surgery on Tuesday to repair a fractured left hamate bone and is expected to be sidelined for the next 6-8 weeks. Tough break.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Luis Urias underwent surgery on Tuesday to repair a fractured left hamate bone and is expected to be sidelined for the next 6-8 weeks. Tough break. I guess it's better to happen now, should be back early April. Silver linings...
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Luis Urias underwent surgery on Tuesday to repair a fractured left hamate bone and is expected to be sidelined for the next 6-8 weeks. Tough break. Look on the bright side. It's not like he had any power to lose to begin with.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Look on the bright side. It's not like he had any power to lose to begin with. 23 HR in AAA/MLB last season
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 23 HR in AAA/MLB last season Running a .285 ISO only after they implemented that juiced ball in triple A.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Running a .285 ISO only after they implemented that juiced ball in triple A. He's projected for 10-15 HR in 500 AB in 2020. That's about what Votto, Reddick, Moran, Miggy, and Vladito had in 2019 in 500 AB. Your comment he doesn't have any power is incorrect, sir.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 He's projected for 10-15 HR in 500 AB in 2020. That's about what Votto, Reddick, Moran, Miggy, and Vladito had in 2019 in 500 AB. Your comment he doesn't have any power is incorrect, sir. washes up, washed up, weak, washed up, hits everything straight into the ground. not sure those examples are serving your point
Beans Verified Member Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 If they wanted a manager who would stand up to the media and deflect the questions that will inevitably haunt them all year, they could've done better than Dusty f***ing Baker. Literally any old man in his 60s or above would have handled the media well this year, brushing off excessive questions with a bit of cheer here and a lot of grumpiness there, using his age as an advantage that way. But why is everyone in the media talking about credibility here? He's the guy who coined the term 'steroid McCarthyism.' Here's what former GM David Samson had to say about it: "Dusty Baker's going to be in that dugout and get told what to do by a GM, someone who is his grandson's age?" Samson asked. "Is that the plan for you Jim Crane? Or did you hire Dusty Baker because you knew that Major League Baseball wanted there to be some level of credibility in that dugout? Where you knew you'd have to give control to someone like [buck] Showalter, [John] Gibbons, someone that has managed before. But you also knew you were going to go minority. You also knew you wanted to go with someone that was a player's manager. Who can really make sure that the clubhouse is always good, who can keep out outside distractions." He then goes on to laugh at the idea, being put out by all the mainstream baseball writers, that Dusty Baker commands such respect that the media will ask fewer questions of the Astros this year.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Dusty Baker's job is going to be to fill out lineup cards the way management wants him to, handle his pitching staff the way management wants him to, and draw on his 50 something years of baseball experience to deal with the media and keep the clubhouse happy. I don't think this hire is nearly as consequential as most people are making it seem. He might even be the right guy for the job.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Dusty Baker's job is going to be to fill out lineup cards the way management wants him to, handle his pitching staff the way management wants him to, and draw on his 50 something years of baseball experience to deal with the media and keep the clubhouse happy. I don't think this hire is nearly as consequential as most people are making it seem. He might even be the right guy for the job. Still seems bananas that John Gibbons would not be the perfect hire for their situation.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Still seems bananas that John Gibbons would not be the perfect hire for their situation. Yeah, I agree
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