Alex Anthopoulos Departing

[Rusty_Savage]

Lol

You his son or something?

 

 

[Rusty_Savage]

This whole situation is starting to remind me of Al Pacino in Any Given Sunday.

[SAAviour]

I understand this was AAs decision, but Shapiro needed to find a way to keep him on board, even just for a year. This kills the momentum built up with the fans. Shapiro starts on Monday with a noose dangling lightly around his neck. The pitch forks will come out fast if he messes up even slightly. Not a good position to be in.

[SSTP]

That still puts them at a 101 win team.

 

At the deadline. Jays were underperforming. Yanks were overperforming.

Seemed like a prefect fine spot to make some trades. Tulo and Revere were not only for 2015. The only one that was really "taking a shot" or a risk was the Price trade.

 

or maybe he knew he was gone if they didn't make the playoffs? his resume wouldn't be very nice either.

[halladay]

Wow. Just wow. This is what losing organisations do. Love or hate Yankees but they stay their course.

AA grew up in BJ organisation and has repeatedly shown how dedicated he is to this job, not to mention very good at it.

Sure, there were some deals that didn't work out.

But I don't remember a single time when that deal didn't make sense. Let alone they were hard to pull off.

Loading off VW contract???

Getting Tulo for REYES??

DONALDSON??????

It's going to be impossible to find a GM as dedicated and good as AA.

He should have been given full authority on player personnel and stayed a Bluejays lifer.

I'm sickened. This is exactly why BJ never stay on top.

[King]

Wow. Just wow. This is what losing organisations do. Love or hate Yankees but they stay their course.

AA grew up in BJ organisation and has repeatedly shown how dedicated he is to this job, not to mention very good at it.

Sure, there were some deals that didn't work out.

But I don't remember a single time when that deal didn't make sense. Let alone they were hard to pull off.

Loading off VW contract???

Getting Tulo for REYES??

DONALDSON??????

It's going to be impossible to find a GM as dedicated and good as AA.

He should have been given full authority on player personnel and stayed a Bluejays lifer.

I'm sickened. This is exactly why BJ never stay on top.

 

lol

[burlingtonbandit]

Wow Bruce Artur saying that AA turned down AGM, lol wasn't even to be GM. Also offered him a 2 year contract initially.

 

"And Rogers, in the end, either didn’t know, or didn’t care. Don’t believe the venal spin that Anthopoulos rejected the contract unless you include the fact that he rejected a job as an assistant GM, at best. Don’t believe it if someone says he tried to pitch Rogers on reporting directly to the head of the company. Anthopoulos, more than anything, is a loyal soldier. Probably too loyal, in the end.

 

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/10/29/blue-jays-ownership-responsible-for-this-ridiculous-ending-arthur.html

[Rusty_Savage]

Wow. Just wow. This is what losing organisations do. Love or hate Yankees but they stay their course.

AA grew up in BJ organisation and has repeatedly shown how dedicated he is to this job, not to mention very good at it.

Sure, there were some deals that didn't work out.

But I don't remember a single time when that deal didn't make sense. Let alone they were hard to pull off.

Loading off VW contract???

Getting Tulo for REYES??

DONALDSON??????

It's going to be impossible to find a GM as dedicated and good as AA.

He should have been given full authority on player personnel and stayed a Bluejays lifer.

I'm sickened. This is exactly why BJ never stay on top.

 

Your awesome

[Laika]

Wow Bruce Artur saying that AA turned down AGM, lol wasn't even to be GM. Also offered him a 2 year contract initially.

 

"And Rogers, in the end, either didn’t know, or didn’t care. Don’t believe the venal spin that Anthopoulos rejected the contract unless you include the fact that he rejected a job as an assistant GM, at best. Don’t believe it if someone says he tried to pitch Rogers on reporting directly to the head of the company. Anthopoulos, more than anything, is a loyal soldier. Probably too loyal, in the end.

 

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/10/29/blue-jays-ownership-responsible-for-this-ridiculous-ending-arthur.html

 

It's all semantics. I think he's just commenting on the fact that he would be sort of less of a full GM than before.

[Inklink]

Well, I listened to the first 10 minutes of the AA interview on PTS, and the man didn't answer a single question straight. In fact, when McCown asked him if the offered position was less responsibility than his current role, AA went on a minimum 2.5 minute praise of Edward Rogers. I couldn't take the dancing and switched stations!

 

At the end of the day...FK ROGERS.

[Frenchsoup]

wow bruce artur saying that aa turned down agm, lol wasn't even to be gm. Also offered him a 2 year contract initially.

 

"and rogers, in the end, either didn’t know, or didn’t care. Don’t believe the venal spin that anthopoulos rejected the contract unless you include the fact that he rejected a job as an assistant gm, at best. Don’t believe it if someone says he tried to pitch rogers on reporting directly to the head of the company. Anthopoulos, more than anything, is a loyal soldier. Probably too loyal, in the end.

 

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/10/29/blue-jays-ownership-responsible-for-this-ridiculous-ending-arthur.html

 

rogers

[lioncat]

Wow Bruce Artur saying that AA turned down AGM, lol wasn't even to be GM.

 

That's not what he said. Arthur is saying that the GM job, under Shapiro, would be an AGM at best, since AA would have to run any trades/drafts by Shapiro.

[burlingtonbandit]

It's all semantics. I think he's just commenting on the fact that he would be sort of less of a full GM than before.

 

Yeah thats true. I read it quickly lol.

[Frenchsoup]

AA put together the best Jays team we've seen in our lives, and Rogers lets him go. This is beyond stupidity. I think Shapiro is awesome, but at the end of the day, they should have just let AA run the baseball and Shapiro run building/other things. Our team got a lot weaker today, philosophies are bound to change... some good, some bad. I had a really comfortable year watching AA hit on pretty much every move he made. GL to Shaipro and Rogers to try and duplicate that.

[JaysRap]

This whole situation is starting to remind me of Al Pacino in Any Given Sunday.

 

I literally was thinking the same thing. Watch AA trade back Donaldson with him when he goes to Miami.

[Krylian]

If Shapiro was going to castrate AA that way then I'm glad he walked. I hope he has all the success in the world. He served the organization well.

 

Ok, Mr. Shapiro. You wanted this...now you've got it. Show us what you've got.

[candymartinez]

Did he say the talent was that of a .500 team or the performance was a .500 team?

 

Said they "were at best a five hundred team". That's clearly stating an opinion and not a fact about their win/loss record.

[art_vandelay275]

Well, I listened to the first 10 minutes of the AA interview on PTS, and the man didn't answer a single question straight. In fact, when McCown asked him if the offered position was less responsibility than his current role, AA went on a minimum 2.5 minute praise of Edward Rogers. I couldn't take the dancing and switched stations!

 

At the end of the day...FK ROGERS.

 

i am with you. villan is rogers... don't blame shapiro one bit...

[Krylian]

Said they "were at best a five hundred team". That's clearly stating an opinion and not a fact about their win/loss record.

 

That's not true. Pretty sure McCown had them close to 90 wins before the season started. His comment was based on results.

[candymartinez]

Well, I listened to the first 10 minutes of the AA interview on PTS, and the man didn't answer a single question straight. In fact, when McCown asked him if the offered position was less responsibility than his current role, AA went on a minimum 2.5 minute praise of Edward Rogers. I couldn't take the dancing and switched stations!

 

At the end of the day...FK ROGERS.

 

It was sort of annoying to listen to but I understand what AA is doing. Comes off as a good solider to whoever hires him.

[Krylian]

i am with you. villan is rogers... don't blame shapiro one bit...

 

There is blame to go around. This is a a f*** of cluster.

[Stangstag]

At the end of the day, the casual "fans" are the only ones mad about this. And those same people will abandon the team if they start off 10-20.

 

Shapiro is going to get an unbelievable amount of flak when David Price signs elsewhere. Again, the fans will cry.

 

In the end, as long as we have a WINNING TEAM the stadium will sell out.

[candymartinez]

That's not true. Pretty sure McCown had them close to 90 wins before the season started. His comment was based on results.

 

It's an exact quote.

Go to 4:55: http://pmd.fan590.com/podcasts/pts/pt_20151029_175612--Prime-Time-Sports---October-29---5pm.mp3

[Rusty_Savage]

I literally was thinking the same thing. Watch AA trade back Donaldson with him when he goes to Miami.

 

I was thinking Stroman

[Krylian]

It's an exact quote.

Go to 4:55: http://pmd.fan590.com/podcasts/pts/pt_20151029_175612--Prime-Time-Sports---October-29---5pm.mp3

 

 

He was talking about AA's entire tenure as the Jays GM. Borderline .500 team.

 

You're overanalyzing this.

 

The team had at best a .500 record with him at GM...and then they caught lightning in a bottle for that last two months of the season...that brings us to today. That's pretty much it.

[glory]

At the end of the day, the casual "fans" are the only ones mad about this. And those same people will abandon the team if they start off 10-20.

 

Shapiro is going to get an unbelievable amount of flak when David Price signs elsewhere. Again, the fans will cry.

 

In the end, as long as we have a WINNING TEAM the stadium will sell out.

 

Shapiro, contrary to what many want to believe, is inheriting what will look like a mess after 2016. Bautista and Edwin will be free agents after next season, and the team will be paying $60M to Martin and $80M to Tulo in their mid-30's over the next 3-4 years. The farm system, at least the upper minors portion, is bone dry other than Pompey.

 

AA might have bounced on purpose. He gets all the accolades for ending the playoff drought and doesn't have to deal with the consequences of his short-term decision making. That's one smart fat man.

[BlueJayWay]

It's too bad. I was looking forward to a situation where Shapiro replaces Beeston, and AA stays on as the baseball guy.

[pickoff22]

At the end of the day, the casual "fans" are the only ones mad about this.

 

Incorrect

[thatoneguy]

Shapiro, contrary to what many want to believe, is inheriting what will look like a mess after 2016. Bautista and Edwin will be free agents after next season, and the team will be paying $60M to Martin and $80M to Tulo in their mid-30's over the next 3-4 years. The farm system, at least the upper minors portion, is bone dry other than Pompey.

 

AA might have bounced on purpose. He gets all the accolades for ending the playoff drought and doesn't have to deal with the consequences of his short-term decision making. That's one smart fat man.

 

You should really just stop following the team if you constantly think everything is going to crash and burn all of the time like this.

[dineke]

Shapiro, contrary to what many want to believe, is inheriting what will look like a mess after 2016. Bautista and Edwin will be free agents after next season, and the team will be paying $60M to Martin and $80M to Tulo in their mid-30's over the next 3-4 years. The farm system, at least the upper minors portion, is bone dry other than Pompey.

 

AA might have bounced on purpose. He gets all the accolades for ending the playoff drought and doesn't have to deal with the consequences of his short-term decision making. That's one smart fat man.

 

It's only a mess if they re-sign Jose and EE. Tulo might become a bad contract, but martin? C'mon I didn't hear anyone complaining when he signed Martin.