Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[max silver]

That's some insane power output for his size. Altuve esque, and even he didn't show this kind of power in the minors.

 

Unfortunately the dude is made of glass. He's posted very impressive numbers whenever he's on the field.

[max silver]

Nimmala has continued his hot streak. Over the last month he's posted a .313/.361/.616 .977 OPS good for a 170 wRC+. He's hit 7 doubles and 7 home runs in 108 PA (.303 iso). Strikeouts are still a bit of a concern but he's been improving recently with 27.8% k rate in this sample.

[Eat My Shatkins]

That is so awesome that Nimmala got things turned around after the rough start.

 

Now fix Bonilla

[glory]

Bloss getting wrecked in his start tonight. It's the 2nd inning and he's already given up 3 HR's, 2 BB's, and 8 ER.

[Ray]

Disaster outing for Bloss against the Rays AAA team: 1.2 IP, 9H, 8ER, 2BB, 1K, 3 home runs allowed

[Krylian]

Disaster outing for Bloss against the Rays AAA team: 1.2 IP, 9H, 8ER, 2BB, 1K, 3 home runs allowed

 

Bust.

[max silver]

Disaster outing for Bloss against the Rays AAA team: 1.2 IP, 9H, 8ER, 2BB, 1K, 3 home runs allowed

 

I'll just go ahead and pretend this start didn't happen.

[Eat My Shatkins]

AAA Buffalo, where pitchers go to die.....

[Jonn]

Seems like all pitchers who pitched last night in Durham got their s*** kicked in. Wouldn’t read much into it.

[Olerud363]

Is there any position players to be excited about at all in this system?

 

Spencer Horwitz looks like he might be an OK piece. A 2 WAR 1b/2b who can be like the 8th best position player on a good team. Spencer hit .330 .450 .500 in Buffalo and translated to like .250 .340 .400 so far.

 

SO what hope do any of these other guys have?

 

Maybe Wagner is also a 2 WAR guy? Are there platoon partners for anybody? Too bad Davis imploded.

[Olerud363]

Is there any position players to be excited about at all in this system?

 

Spencer Horwitz looks like he might be an OK piece. A 2 WAR 1b/2b who can be like the 8th best position player on a good team. Spencer hit .330 .450 .500 in Buffalo and translated to like .250 .340 .400 so far.

 

SO what hope do any of these other guys have?

 

Maybe Wagner is also a 2 WAR guy? Are there platoon partners for anybody? Too bad Davis imploded.

 

Nevermind. I am wrong. These guys, Wagner, Horwitz, Barger, Jiminez, they are all very awesome and destroying the Twinkies. And they probably all are on track for 4 WAR per 162 after this game.

[Laika]

Is there any position players to be excited about at all in this system?

 

Spencer Horwitz looks like he might be an OK piece. A 2 WAR 1b/2b who can be like the 8th best position player on a good team. Spencer hit .330 .450 .500 in Buffalo and translated to like .250 .340 .400 so far.

 

SO what hope do any of these other guys have?

 

Maybe Wagner is also a 2 WAR guy? Are there platoon partners for anybody? Too bad Davis imploded.

 

Not really

 

They have this glob of guys who could be 2 win players but I wouldn't be excited about any of them. I mean it's exciting that some of them might be league average bats but that's not what we are talking about.

 

Nimmala has his 3% chance of being an all star

 

I think Barger and Orelvis have the tools to be above average, 30 HR guys if they can figure it out

[Eat My Shatkins]

Some of the '24 draftees off to good starts in Dunedin.

 

20yo OF Nick Mitchell with 133 wRC+ through 76 PA's

22yo OF Eddie Micheletti with 169 wRC+ through 75 PA's

21yo 3B Sean Keys with 110 wRC+ through 75 PA's

21yo C Aaron Parker with 168 wRC+ through 82 PA's

[John_Havok]

Not really

 

They have this glob of guys who could be 2 win players but I wouldn't be excited about any of them. I mean it's exciting that some of them might be league average bats but that's not what we are talking about.

 

Nimmala has his 3% chance of being an all star

 

I think Barger and Orelvis have the tools to be above average, 30 HR guys if they can figure it out

 

I'd put Loperfido in there too, but he's got more work to do.

 

Wagner, Clement, Horwitz, Jimenez...they're the high floor low ceiling guys. Not stars, not scrubs. Good guys to have to slide in whenever you need. Won't kill you, but won't be difference makers long term.

 

That said, if I had to rank those 4 in terms of who would have the best chance of exceeding those expectations, probably Wagner, Horwitz, Clement and then Leo.

[Olerud363]

I'd put Loperfido in there too, but he's got more work to do.

 

Wagner, Clement, Horwitz, Jimenez...they're the high floor low ceiling guys. Not stars, not scrubs. Good guys to have to slide in whenever you need. Won't kill you, but won't be difference makers long term.

 

That said, if I had to rank those 4 in terms of who would have the best chance of exceeding those expectations, probably Wagner, Horwitz, Clement and then Leo.

 

Howritz wRC+ this year is already better than anything Lyle Overbay or Frank Catalanotto did with Toronto. Which seems crazy. Giving he's hitting .260.

 

If a guy like Horwitz or Wagner could hit .300 and keep walk rate, doubles, and 'neutral' defense intact they'd be a key piece.. not saying they can hit .300 given the batting trends in the league, just if they could there's the route for them being a difference maker.

[Olerud363]

Nimalla close to breaking Carlos Delgado teenage hr record for Blue Jays?

 

Delgado did it at "19" in 1991 but was 18 for half the season. Very close to Nimalla's age.

 

 

Is 18 the Blue Jays teenage hr record? Or am I forgetting someone? Wells, Delgado, Vlad, Bo -- I am sure they routinely hit 115 mph missiles at some poor guy that wasn't ever getting out of Florida -- but never big homerun totals.

[AMS528]

Nimalla close to breaking Carlos Delgado teenage hr record for Blue Jays?

 

Delgado did it at "19" in 1991 but was 18 for half the season. Very close to Nimalla's age.

 

 

Is 18 the Blue Jays teenage hr record? Or am I forgetting someone? Wells, Delgado, Vlad, Bo -- I am sure they routinely hit 115 mph missiles at some poor guy that wasn't ever getting out of Florida -- but never big homerun totals.

 

Travis Snider hit 16 in 118 games as a 19 year old. Richard Urena hit 15 in 91 games as a 19 year old.

 

Lots of top prospects didn't hit that many, but I clicked around randomly for the A ball 90s Jays (Hagerstown Suns) and I found Mike Whitlock who never made the majors hit 20 as a 19 year old in A ball.

 

That's the highest I've found.

[John_Havok]

Travis Snider hit 16 in 118 games as a 19 year old. Richard Urena hit 15 in 91 games as a 19 year old.

 

Lots of top prospects didn't hit that many, but I clicked around randomly for the A ball 90s Jays (Hagerstown Suns) and I found Mike Whitlock who never made the majors hit 20 as a 19 year old in A ball.

 

That's the highest I've found.

 

Don't have to look that far in house, Orelvis hit 28 at age 19 in a single season split between A and A+. 98 games, 2021.

[Olerud363]

Don't have to look that far in house, Orelvis hit 28 at age 19 in a single season split between A and A+. 98 games, 2021.

 

Of course! So stupid! Forgot about him because of the fertility issues. In all seriousness a shame he didn't get to play 90 games in the majors this year. it would have been interesting to see how his minor league numbers translated vs. how the older line drive contact oriented hitters are translating. I guess we already have Schneider, Clement, Barger, Horwitz, Wagner, Jiminez and Loperfido to look at (in low sample size) how various minor league hitters are translating from Buffalo.

 

Still Orelvis is probably the most extreme low average, high exit-v, high power, high fly ball rate guy of them all... Intuitively I think he might take a less of a hit on the average than other guys, a combination of being younger, and minor league infielders are already catching his pop-ups (where other guys may take more of a hit with major league defenses)

[Jimcanuck]

Jonathan Todd, RHP, Blue Jays

 

 

Todd was a 15th-round draft pick for the Blue Jays, and his early data is very promising. His fastball has tremendous ride, averaging nearly 20 inches of IVB, which is more than 3 inches above what’s expected given his release. That will make the pitch an easy plus pitch even at 93 mph. He pairs that with a true gyro bullet slider, with enough velocity and promising shape to be viable swing-and-miss pitch. At 6-foot-6, 225 pounds, Todd has the frame to perhaps add a little bit more velocity, and could be a fast-moving bullpen arm that might rocket through the minor leagues and reach Toronto’s bullpen next year.

[Ray]

Alan Roden’s August in AAA: .354/.411/.594 good for a 158 wRC+.

 

Steamer now projects him as a 103 wRC+ hitter in the majors now.

[AMS528]

Don't have to look that far in house, Orelvis hit 28 at age 19 in a single season split between A and A+. 98 games, 2021.

 

Doh! Yeah that's gotta be it. 28 in 98 games was ridiculous for a 19 year old.

[metafour]

Jake Bloss with a bounce-back tonight, albeit a bit wild:

 

4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 5 BB, 5 K

 

The FB topped at 94.4 mph and averaged 92.9. He had 11 whiffs on 28 swings (39%).

 

Alan Roden also 2 for 3 with a HR.

[AMS528]

Jake Bloss with a bounce-back tonight, albeit a bit wild:

 

4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 5 BB, 5 K

 

The FB topped at 94.4 mph and averaged 92.9. He had 11 whiffs on 28 swings (39%).

 

Alan Roden also 2 for 3 with a HR.

 

I notice as well that Roden is overall hitting lefties pretty solidly for the season. He wasn't as much last year, and definitely earlier in the season this year. That gives him some more potential runway to be a regular.

[Terminator]

[Spanky__99]

[Laika]

Santos has a legit MLB slider

 

https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/video/dahian-santos-fans-five?q=ContentTags%20%3D%20%5B%22playerid-692479%22%5D%20Order%20by%20Timestamp%20DESC&cp=CMS_FIRST&p=0

 

He has not shown the command needed to be a SP and I don't know if he has a third pitch, but they might not be completely pulling the plug on him as a SP prospect. Still only 21 and he is doing 2 and 3 inning appearances in AA. He can touch 96 I think. No idea if his fastball has decent shape.

 

But at a minimum he's a solid relief prospect. He could probably throw 60% sliders and be fine as an MLB reliever next year.

[Brownie19]

Santos has a legit MLB slider

 

https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/video/dahian-santos-fans-five?q=ContentTags%20%3D%20%5B%22playerid-692479%22%5D%20Order%20by%20Timestamp%20DESC&cp=CMS_FIRST&p=0

 

He has not shown the command needed to be a SP and I don't know if he has a third pitch, but they might not be completely pulling the plug on him as a SP prospect. Still only 21 and he is doing 2 and 3 inning appearances in AA. He can touch 96 I think. No idea if his fastball has decent shape.

 

But at a minimum he's a solid relief prospect. He could probably throw 60% sliders and be fine as an MLB reliever next year.

 

Just wait until he gets to AAA and starts walking 10 per 9...Pardinho is the latest victim. It must be f***ing painful watching the late innings of a Bison's game.

[Laika]

Just wait until he gets to AAA and starts walking 10 per 9...Pardinho is the latest victim. It must be f***ing painful watching the late innings of a Bison's game.

 

Some orgs are probably just skipping AAA for any real P prospects because of the ABS system. I think the Angels skipped AAA with all of Kochanowicz, Caden Dana, and Aldegheri

[Brownie19]

Some orgs are probably just skipping AAA for any real P prospects because of the ABS system. I think the Angels skipped AAA with all of Kochanowicz, Caden Dana, and Aldegheri

 

Well it seems all the interesting RP prospects we have go to AAA to die...How on earth is Connor Cooke not on this team and contributing already?