gbill2004 Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 @Ken_Rosenthal: #RedSox announce that Dave Dombrowski is their new president of baseball operations.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Cherington is out. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/08/red-sox-name-dave-dombrowski-president-of-baseball-operations-ben-cherington-out-as-gm.html Wren might be the next GM in Boston.
baubau Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 I was hoping that the team could get Dombrowski. I am not looking forward to another offseason of Deuquette BS. Don't think he is even that great.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Wow so Billy Beane to Toronto is inevitable
Dr Negative Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Cherington is out. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/08/red-sox-name-dave-dombrowski-president-of-baseball-operations-ben-cherington-out-as-gm.html Wren might be the next GM in Boston. Hasn't Wren been a complete failure with Atlanta?
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Wow so Billy Beane to Toronto is inevitable wouldn't that just make the Josh Donaldson trade make Beane look like even more of a genius if he ended up in Toronto....always one step ahead of everyone.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Likely to be the first of many moves in Boston. Even though Farrell is recovering from lymphoma and will likely be back for 2016, he'll likely be on a very short leash. Expect Dombrowski to make huge changes, especially with the minor league system.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Wow so Billy Beane to Toronto is inevitable sarcasm?
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Hasn't Wren been a complete failure with Atlanta? he has and thats good for the AL East if thats true
glory Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 I'm just going to prepare myself for Kenny Williams as Beeston's replacement, that way I'm not disappointed when it actually happens.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Billy Beane in, Donaldson + Jays farm for Trout 1st move
Caper Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Jays should promote AA to president and retain the GM title. Hire back that guy that was assistant GM that left for Apple to come back as assistant GM.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Jays should promote AA to president and retain the GM title. Hire back that guy that was assistant GM that left for Apple to come back as assistant GM. What is wrong with Tinnish?
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Wasn't there some sports writer that was like "no way Drombowski ends up in Boston, if that happens I will literally eat my own digestive tract!" It's almost as though sports writers have no accountability when they say things that are totally wrong.
Virgil_Hiltz Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Wow so Billy Beane to Toronto is inevitable Doug Melvin?
Slade Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 What is wrong with Tinnish? I would never want Tinnish to be a GM, I had a conversation with him one time when he visited my workplace and he came off as such a douche bag. This was like 2 years into AA GM tenure.
FrozenRopes Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 DD is known to be old school. If we could get Billy Beane and give him a budget, we could be unstoppable.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Drombowski for 3M by year is a great deal for him.
baubau Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 DD is known to be old school. If we could get Billy Beane and give him a budget, we could be unstoppable. Beane's style has never been about budget. I can't see him splurging in the FA market. Even if he did, he'd probably trade the player a year later.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 I'd be scared of Beane after what he did in the off-season. I doubt he'd have interest in Toronto anyway, but this isn't 1998-2002 Beane here. He's a different guy now.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Didn't realize this until now but the Sox are on their way to their 3rd last place finish in 4 seasons. The only time they didn't get last was when they won the WS.
LTR Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Didn't realize this until now but the Sox are on their way to their 3rd last place finish in 4 seasons. The only time they didn't get last was when they won the WS. Pretty much everything went right for them in 2013, nearly all of their players were performing at or around career highs.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Pretty much everything went right for them in 2013, nearly all of their players were performing at or around career highs. Yeah I remember Cherington made a bunch of questionable offseason moves that all went right that year and predictably fell apart the year after.
BTS Community Moderator Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Yeah I remember Cherington made a bunch of questionable offseason moves that all went right that year and predictably fell apart the year after. His offseason was pretty good. Low-risk short-term deals for (IIRC) Victorino, Dempster, Uehara, Drew, Gomes, and Ross put them over the top. He's been mostly terrible, but he made a lot of good moves to create that 2013 team.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) People don't seem to understand what a President does. Edited August 19, 2015 by Spanky99 Grammar
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 His offseason was pretty good. Low-risk short-term deals for (IIRC) Victorino, Dempster, Uehara, Drew, Gomes, and Ross put them over the top. He's been mostly terrible, but he made a lot of good moves to create that 2013 team. I don't know how I remember this but at the time I remember you and I were mostly blasting him. But a lot of those deals did hit, even if for the first year (Victorino and Drew). I particularly remember everyone finding the Victorino deal to be pretty bad. 6 WAR the year after he signed though. lol
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 I don't know how I remember this but at the time I remember you and I were mostly blasting him. But a lot of those deals did hit, even if for the first year (Victorino and Drew). I particularly remember everyone finding the Victorino deal to be pretty bad. 6 WAR the year after he signed though. lol remember he traded Iglesias mid season for Peavy which was pretty bad, he got so lucky.
flafson Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Looks like we pushed the RedSox into giving him that contract, it was them or us and they pulled the trigger first.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Looks like we pushed the RedSox into giving him that contract, it was them or us and they pulled the trigger first. That's just despairing at its best.
TDotttt2005 Verified Member Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 People don't seem to understand what a President does. There is a lot of misunderstanding that I'm seeing, even in the media, who are the alleged experts. Dombrowski isnt replacing Larry Lucchino as President/CEO of the Boston Red Sox, but instead is coming in at a newly created President of Baseball Operations position. He's the top baseball guy, reporting up to the new President/CEO Sam Kennedy, who was promoted from EVP/COO role to replace Lucchino, in which he was the top business operations guy. Up to now, Cherington and Kennedy had been the top Baseball and Business Ops guys, respectively, reporting up to Lucchino, so its easy to see why Cherington quit. He was in fact being demoted, by them bringing in another baseball operations guy above him, whereas before there was no one...he reported to Lucchino. In this realm, its not really surprising that Dombrowski did not come to the Jays. With the Jays, Beeston is President and CEO of the Toronto Blue Jays with his direct reports, AA as the EVP/GM (Head of Baseball Operations) and Stephen Brooks is EVP, Head of Business Operations. Dombrowski's role in Boston isnt equal to Beeston, its actually equal to AA (albeit with a more impressive President Title). I never thought Dombrowski was qualified to replace Beeston, similar to how Kenny Williams is not, as they do not have the Business Operations background. If they brought in Dombrowski as President of Baseball Ops (creating that position), it would mean that (1) they still would have to replace Beeston, and (2) it would be a demotion for AA, similar to how it wouldve been for Cherington had he stayed. Duquette is the only named candidate who has both Baseball and Business Ops experience, which is what the team would look for in a candidate to replace Beeston as President/CEO of the Toronto Blue Jays. Duquette has started a pretty successful sports academy, owned and run (from a business standpoint) a minor league baseball team, and was a founder of the Israeli baseball league. Not sure many posters here have an interest really in the business side of things, but thought i'd help clear up some misconceptions here.
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