Aaron Sanchez Reality Check Thread

[BTS]

Trying to pick out improvement over a 2-start sample is a fool's errand. IMO all we can say is the following:

 

- On the whole, he's been awful this year, and not worth a rotation spot.

- His stuff looks like it should allow him to not be awful.

- His last two starts were of major league quality.

 

So his last two starts have been good, but even AAA quality arms will throw good starts on the board 3 times in 9 starts, which is what Sanchez has done. It doesn't necessarily point to improvement, but that becomes more likely with every good outing.

[CHRIS]

How did the team "gift" Pompey a roster spot in CF?

 

By naming him the starting CF with minimal experience or track record. And then deciding after 20 games that he needed to go down. Whether "gift" is the right word or not, if 20 games is enough to decide that he shouldn't be in the majors, then there should have been a stronger effort to address outfield depth from the onset.

 

In general terms, this team has a habit of giving the wrong guys too much rope (Thames, Pillar, Patterson) and other guys not enough (Snider, Pompey).

 

That's not to say it wasn't the right decision to send Pompey down; just that if you're considering that a month into the season when you're "all in", the backup plan shouldn't be to pencil Pillar in at CF every day.

[BTS]

By naming him the starting CF with minimal experience or track record. And then deciding after 20 games that he needed to go down. Whether "gift" is the right word or not, if 20 games is enough to decide that he shouldn't be in the majors, then there should have been a stronger effort to address outfield depth from the onset.

 

In general terms, this team has a habit of giving the wrong guys too much rope (Thames, Pillar, Patterson) and other guys not enough (Snider, Pompey).

 

That's not to say it wasn't the right decision to send Pompey down; just that if you're considering that a month into the season when you're "all in", the backup plan shouldn't be to pencil Pillar in at CF every day.

 

Yeah. What a lot of the board was saying in the offseason was that you want the Pompeys and Pillars of the world waiting in AAA to provide backup if the more proven guys get hurt and/or suck. They were right.

[Governator]

Horizontal movement:

http://i.imgur.com/hYyFSpQ.png

 

Vertical movement:

http://i.imgur.com/5CvTjOz.png

 

Whiff %:

http://i.imgur.com/D1fTk2H.png

 

 

Thanks - guess not on the movement factor but when he's throwing 96-97 he's getting whiffs compared to sitting at 94. Then again the 3 teams with those higher whiff rate games are TB, LAA, SEA. Coincidence or is it the velocity factor?

[King]

Thanks - guess not on the movement factor but when he's throwing 96-97 he's getting whiffs compared to sitting at 94. Then again the 3 teams with those higher whiff rate games are TB, LAA, SEA. Coincidence or is it the velocity factor?

 

PD Stats by team, sorted by SwStr%

 

[TABLE=width: 964]

[TR]

[TD]Team[/TD]

[TD]O-Swing%[/TD]

[TD]Z-Swing%[/TD]

[TD]Swing%[/TD]

[TD]O-Contact%[/TD]

[TD]Z-Contact%[/TD]

[TD]Contact%[/TD]

[TD]Zone%[/TD]

[TD]F-Strike%[/TD]

[TD]SwStr%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Cubs[/TD]

[TD=align: right]28.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]67.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]56.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]83.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]73.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]44.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]58.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]11.70%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Astros[/TD]

[TD=align: right]29.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]69.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]81.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]75.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]11.60%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Orioles[/TD]

[TD=align: right]32.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]69.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]49.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]85.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]77.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]44.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]10.90%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Padres[/TD]

[TD=align: right]32.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]48.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]61.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]86.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]77.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]61.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]10.60%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Twins[/TD]

[TD=align: right]32.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]65.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]48.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]85.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]77.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]10.60%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Brewers[/TD]

[TD=align: right]34.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]67.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]49.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]65.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]86.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]78.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]61.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]10.50%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Rockies[/TD]

[TD=align: right]31.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]68.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]49.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]85.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]78.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]48.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]10.40%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Mariners[/TD]

[TD=align: right]28.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]83.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]77.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]59.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]10.30%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Pirates[/TD]

[TD=align: right]31.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]85.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]78.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]10.20%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Dodgers[/TD]

[TD=align: right]29.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]68.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]86.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]78.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]59.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]10.10%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Rays[/TD]

[TD=align: right]28.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]67.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]65.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]84.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]78.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]10.00%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]White Sox[/TD]

[TD=align: right]32.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]48.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]87.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]79.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.90%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Tigers[/TD]

[TD=align: right]32.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]67.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]48.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]87.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]79.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.80%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Marlins[/TD]

[TD=align: right]33.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]65.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]87.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]79.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.80%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Reds[/TD]

[TD=align: right]29.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]70.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]87.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]79.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.70%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Cardinals[/TD]

[TD=align: right]32.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]70.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]48.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]87.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]79.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]43.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.70%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Blue Jays[/TD]

[TD=align: right]29.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]86.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]78.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.60%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Nationals[/TD]

[TD=align: right]30.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]65.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]86.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]79.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.60%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Diamondbacks[/TD]

[TD=align: right]31.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]88.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]79.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.60%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Giants[/TD]

[TD=align: right]29.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]68.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]87.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]80.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.30%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Rangers[/TD]

[TD=align: right]28.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]44.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]87.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]79.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.20%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Mets[/TD]

[TD=align: right]28.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]65.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]88.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]80.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]9.10%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Phillies[/TD]

[TD=align: right]32.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]69.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]88.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]81.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]8.90%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Yankees[/TD]

[TD=align: right]28.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]64.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]44.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]88.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]80.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]58.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]8.70%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Royals[/TD]

[TD=align: right]34.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]67.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]49.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]69.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]90.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]82.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]8.60%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Angels[/TD]

[TD=align: right]31.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]47.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]68.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]88.90%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]81.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]44.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]61.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]8.50%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Braves[/TD]

[TD=align: right]29.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]63.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.20%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]69.50%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]89.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]82.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]59.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]8.00%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Red Sox[/TD]

[TD=align: right]27.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]61.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]43.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]66.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]89.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]81.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]56.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]7.80%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Indians[/TD]

[TD=align: right]25.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]62.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]42.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]69.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]88.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]82.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]45.40%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]59.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]7.60%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Athletics[/TD]

[TD=align: right]27.60%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]42.80%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]70.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]89.30%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]82.70%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]46.00%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]59.10%[/TD]

[TD=align: right]7.40%[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

[CHRIS]

I'd sooner have the team with most wins in the league, than the best statistical pitcher in the league.

 

Sure, who wouldn't?

 

The problem with that approach is trying to assemble a 25 man roster that over the span of 162 games is going to end up with the most wins in the league, when you've decided that you don't care about filling that roster with players that have the skills and attributes that generally allow them to succeed.

 

I really like Aaron Sanchez, and hope that his last few starts are a genuine sign that he's improving and figuring things out. That said, from a "team" perspective, it's hard to watch this team year-in-year-out throw 5 roster spots against the wall and hope that something sticks.

[Governator]

PD Stats by team, sorted by SwStr%

 

Was afraid of that.

[ElNik2013]

By naming him the starting CF with minimal experience or track record. And then deciding after 20 games that he needed to go down. Whether "gift" is the right word or not, if 20 games is enough to decide that he shouldn't be in the majors, then there should have been a stronger effort to address outfield depth from the onset.

 

In general terms, this team has a habit of giving the wrong guys too much rope (Thames, Pillar, Patterson) and other guys not enough (Snider, Pompey).

 

That's not to say it wasn't the right decision to send Pompey down; just that if you're considering that a month into the season when you're "all in", the backup plan shouldn't be to pencil Pillar in at CF every day.

 

 

I'm definitely in the camp that thinks Pompey was not given enough time. Travis also had minimal experience and track record, good thing he got off to a good start or they may have sent him down as well.

 

Pillar should definitely be platooned with Carrera and they need another OF right now.

[KingKat]

I'm definitely in the camp that thinks Pompey was not given enough time. Travis also had minimal experience and track record, good thing he got off to a good start or they may have sent him down as well.

 

 

Pompey in his 22 games in April: 203/276/354

Travis in his 14 games in May: 185/241/315

 

Timing is everything.

[ElNik2013]

Pompey in his 22 games in April: 203/276/354

Travis in his 14 games in May: 185/241/315

 

Timing is everything.

 

 

Yeah, which is why I said it was a good thing he got off to a good start. They also probably look at the fact that he was likely playing hurt. I think I heard somewhere that he lied about being sore to keep playing.

[LTR]

Pompey in his 22 games in April: 203/276/354

Travis in his 14 games in May: 185/241/315

 

Timing is everything.

 

Sample size is everything. Also, health is everything, Travis was supposedly playing injured in May.

[Jimcanuck]

Thread is goat

 

certain people will never get it(jimcanuck)

 

Do you still think Sanchez should be demoted to AAA to figure things out?

[Dick_Pole]

Pompey in his 22 games in April: 203/276/354

Travis in his 14 games in May: 185/241/315

 

Timing is everything.

 

Wasn't there also issues about Pompey "not having good body language" or something like that? If a young guy looks in over his head in the clubhouse he's going to get sent down.

[Caper]

Yeah. What a lot of the board was saying in the offseason was that you want the Pompeys and Pillars of the world waiting in AAA to provide backup if the more proven guys get hurt and/or suck. They were right.

 

Yeah. I still can't believe they didn't get Adam Jones or Mike Trout in the off-season.

[Chappy]

Do you still think Sanchez should be demoted to AAA to figure things out?

 

Probably, yes.

[Caper]

Probably, yes.

 

If you can make a case, it's hardly a case. There is no one pushing their way into his spot and he's doing fine in the role he is in.

[bendera3]

In general terms, this team has a habit of giving the wrong guys too much rope (Thames, Pillar, Patterson) and other guys not enough (Snider, Pompey).

 

That's not to say it wasn't the right decision to send Pompey down; just that if you're considering that a month into the season when you're "all in", the backup plan shouldn't be to pencil Pillar in at CF every day.

 

While I'm not the brass I would think that the reason why the former were given as much rope is because the organization wasn't worried about destroying their development at all. They are what they are. The later (especially Snider) were/are greater prospects that I'm sure the organization doesn't want to mess up developmentally. So sending them down was a way to get them more at bats in a less stressful environment and allow them to work on things where it wouldn't damage the major league team.

 

That being said, finding 1 year of a center fielder while Pompey started in AAA probably would have been a good idea.

[Boxcar]

If you can make a case, it's hardly a case. There is no one pushing their way into his spot and he's doing fine in the role he is in.

 

Arguably worst starter in baseball: "doing fine"

[BTS]

This thread reminds me so much of the Gustavo Chacin debates many years ago.

[KingKat]

Arguably worst starter in baseball: "doing fine"

 

I knew that would get the argument started again. I think what he means (or what I hope he means) is that by whatever fluke, his struggles haven't hurt the team nearly as much as his numbers would indicate and since the last couple of starts were decent to boot, they'll just keep throwing him out there until he does start actually hurting the team. Aaron Sanchez is kind of like Ezequiel Carrera right now where things are working out despite all indications showing that the ability to succeed long term is simply not there. It's just one of those small sample abberations that doesn't really make sense but you'll gladly take anyways.

[KingKat]

This thread reminds me so much of the Gustavo Chacin debates many years ago.

 

Or more recently, that time Kyle Drabek started the season in the rotation and was "succeeding" in spite of himself. I remember falling for that when I really should have known better. I hated Drabek but then I started thinking. "His makeup has improved. He's working himself out of jams." which was a really dumb thing to think about a pitcher I never had believed in before. Working yourself out of jams is not a sustainable skills. Sustainable success only comes when you stop making a habit of putting yourself into jams in the first place.

[bendera3]

Sanchez 1:1 K:B ratio is what's hurting him. If he can't find the plate teams won't feel the need to swing at his pitches. It's something he should be working on in the minors, not as a major league starter, IMO.

[Boxcar]

I knew that would get the argument started again. I think what he means (or what I hope he means) is that by whatever fluke, his struggles haven't hurt the team nearly as much as his numbers would indicate and since the last couple of starts were decent to boot, they'll just keep throwing him out there until he does start actually hurting the team. Aaron Sanchez is kind of like Ezequiel Carrera right now where things are working out despite all indications showing that the ability to succeed long term is simply not there. It's just one of those small sample abberations that doesn't really make sense but you'll gladly take anyways.

 

And the longer he goes being overrated by ERA, the longer the leash AA will give him. That's my concern.

[Boxcar]

Sanchez 1:1 K:B ratio is what's hurting him. If he can't find the plate teams won't feel the need to swing at his pitches. It's something he should be working on in the minors, not as a major league starter, IMO.

 

He doesn't miss bats either. Someone else said it and it's a good comparison: Sanchez is just Jarred Cosart with much worse command.

[Deadpool]

He doesn't miss bats either. Someone else said it and it's a good comparison: Sanchez is just Jarred Cosart with much worse command.

 

My main reason for optimism with Sanchez is that, in his past 2 starts, he HAS been missing bats. If that continues, then he is moving in the right direction. I'm cautiously optimistic based on that fact alone. (Will take more than 2 starts for me to say "hey, he's improving", but it's a slightly encouraging sign.)

[KingKat]

And the longer he goes being overrated by ERA, the longer the leash AA will give him. That's my concern.

 

Yeah I'm not worried about that as much as you are. I think his rope will stay about the same as it is now which I figure is about two implosions. If he flukes into a good ERA in the interim, I don't think that really does any real harm. We'll have to put up with a lot of erroneous evaluations of his performances from the likes of Buck and Tabby and casual fans but though that will only get increasingly annoying, it's not really that important in the larger picture. I think the only real concern I have is that AA might overrate Sanchez and refrain from making a profitable trade involving him. Now THAT would be really bad for the franchise.

[KingKat]

My main reason for optimism with Sanchez is that, in his past 2 starts, he HAS been missing bats. If that continues, then he is moving in the right direction. I'm cautiously optimistic based on that fact alone. (Will take more than 2 starts for me to say "hey, he's improving", but it's a slightly encouraging sign.)

 

If I were AA, I'd pounce on whatever trade window is being created by this recent run but that's just me.

[BTS]

This just in...Stat nerds dislike Aaron Sanchez because he makes them look stupid.

 

 

No, he doesn't. There's no looking stupid if you do your best to take an objective look at the data:

 

"Sanchez isn't pitching well right now."

"I like Sanchez a lot long-term. His stuff is good."

"I'm not optimistic on Sanchez long-term. He hasn't been very good. "

 

Each of those points was, and remains valid 9 starts in to his career. Anyone can take any of the above stances now and will not look stupid in hindsight regardless of what happens going forward. They're comments that reflect what we currently know about him.

 

"Sanchez has been good in 2015."

"Sanchez will never be good."

"Sanchez will definitely be good."

 

These comments are stupid. These comments don't reflect what we currently know. Most people, on either 'side' find themselves in the former group.

[saskjayfan]

off topic...but this thread seems to get a lot of looks for some reason..lol.

 

What's going on with Pompey. Is he hurt? He hasn't played the last couple days, but it doesn't say he's on the 7 day dl.

[King]

off topic...but this thread seems to get a lot of looks for some reason..lol.

 

What's going on with Pompey. Is he hurt? He hasn't played the last couple days, but it doesn't say he's on the 7 day dl.

 

Injured