Aaron Sanchez Reality Check Thread

[reedjohnsonfan]

Looking at one-game splits for a pitcher is pretty pointless. He has a 3.37 xFIP so far; has pitched well.

 

Looking at one-game xFIP for a pitcher is also pointless.

[tercet]

No it's perfectly fine.

[Atothe]

No it's perfectly fine.

 

you said he got murdered by left handed hitters tonight, lol

[NorthOf49]

Looking at one-game xFIP for a pitcher is also pointless.

Less pointless, but yes. Better to look at his seasonal mark of 5.00.

[tercet]

you said he got murdered by left handed hitters tonight, lol

 

I said its fine to look at one game splits =D

[tercet]

Looking at one-game xFIP for a pitcher is also pointless.

 

No it's perfectly fine.

[GD]

I said its fine to look at one game splits =D

 

Its not =D

[tercet]

Its not =D

 

Uhh, I disagree.

 

He still cant get out LHB, and still can get out RHB.

[GD]

Uhh, I disagree.

 

So how well can one game splits predict future splits then? Career splits? Yearly splits? Weekly? 10 minutes from now?

[tercet]

So how well can one game splits predict future splits then? Career splits? Yearly splits? Weekly? 10 minutes from now?

 

Quite simply tonight, if Matt Joyce was the normal matt Joyce, the result is probably different. If Scioscia stacks LHB the result of this game is alot different.

[tercet]

In order to say hes pitching better you need to see improvements, one of Sanchez major problems is his splits, and he continued to have split issues tonight.

 

So you can't really say he improved that much tonight, he was simply alright.

 

He faced 6 RHB, and did exactly what he has all year vs RHB.

[GD]

Quite simply tonight, if Matt Joyce was the normal matt Joyce, the result is probably different. If Scioscia stacks LHB the result of this game is alot different.

 

In order to say hes pitching better you need to see improvements, one of Sanchez major problems is his splits, and he continued to have split issues tonight.

 

So you can't really say he improved that much tonight, he was simply alright.

 

You didn't answer my question

[reedjohnsonfan]

Less pointless, but yes. Better to look at his seasonal mark of 5.00.

 

Sure, that's fair. It has to be a large sample stat, I have no idea how many innings until it "sort of" stabilizes, if anybody knows that would be cool to know.

[tercet]

Obviously splits from a current game cant determine future splits.

 

I don't see what your trying to ask though.

[tercet]

Sanchez issues are still the same issues =D. He faced 6 RHB, and 3LHB everything went pretty much as expected.

[Deadpool]

In order to say hes pitching better you need to see improvements.

 

He generated a lot more swinging strikes than usual, and he didn't walk as many as usual (or throw as many balls in general). There were definite improvements in this start.

[Jimcanuck]

Sanchez issues are still the same issues =D. He faced 6 RHB, and 3LHB everything went pretty much as expected.

 

Hey dude, your irrational bias is well noted. Try a little objectivity? That's 2 very good starts in the last 3 for Sanchez.

 

Everyone can agree Sanchez should be in Buffalo, but AA dropped the ball on pitching depth, so here he is.

[tercet]

He generated a lot more swinging strikes than usual, and he didn't walk as many as usual (or throw as many balls in general). There were definite improvements in this start.

 

Ya I don't know the exact numbers but it seemed like he gave up some more SwStr. He was alright tonight, his best start by far, but one alright start doesn't change 4 years and change of being terrible

[tercet]

Hey dude, your irrational bias is well noted. Try a little objectivity? That's 2 very good starts in the last 3 for Sanchez.

 

Everyone can agree Sanchez should be in Buffalo, but AA dropped the ball on pitching depth, so here he is.

 

Well duh I'am going to be biased, I said he was alright tonight. He still has plenty to work on. And no, he hasn't hasnt been very good 2/3 of his last starts.

[reedjohnsonfan]

I missed the first 7 innings. Can someone other than tercet tell me how he was tonight? His line was alright and threw 60 strikes, seems ok.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Objectively good start after a series of very bad ones. If he can repeat performances like these, people will stop complaining.

 

Missed this post, cool that he actually pitched alright and didn't fluke into a good pitching line.

[theblujay]

I missed the first 7 innings. Can someone other than tercet tell me how he was tonight? His line was alright and threw 60 strikes, seems ok.

 

Looked really good, throwing hard and throwing strikes not too many 3 ball counts and the ump kinda sucked too. Lots of weak contact and swinging strikes outs.msome good curves too. Definitely his best start

[Laika]

4.78 FIP in the best start of his career

 

perspective

[reedjohnsonfan]

Looked really good, throwing hard and throwing strikes not too many 3 ball counts and the ump kinda sucked too. Lots of weak contact and swinging strikes outs.msome good curves too. Definitely his best start

 

That's really encouraging to read. If (big if) he can get ahead of hitters more often we could see K rates closer to the 7.5/9 range.

[NorthOf49]

He got 11 swinging strikes, which in 106 pitches is good. You can't really praise him for weak contact or control though. The curveball looked pretty as usual but it wasn't really thrown for strikes and didn't generate whiffs. Only the two-seamer does anything for him.

 

That's really encouraging to read. If (big if) he can get ahead of hitters more often we could see K rates closer to the 7.5/9 range.

Tonight he struck out batters at a 6.14 K/9 rate. For the season he's at 5.96. So this start hardly featured a strikeout surge.

[GD]

Obviously splits from a current game cant determine future splits.

 

I don't see what your trying to ask though.

 

So if it isn't predictive then what use do one game splits have?

 

He got 11 swinging strikes, which in 106 pitches is good. You can't really praise him for weak contact or control though. The curveball looked pretty as usual but it wasn't really thrown for strikes and didn't generate whiffs. Only the two-seamer does anything for him.

 

11/106 is very very good for a starter, 10%+.

 

change your sig he's unbanned

[tercet]

So if it isn't predictive then what use do one game splits have?

 

Well if someone has extreme split problems, and continues to have extreme problems split problems in one game, you can't really say he was that much better.

 

One game split's show that he still is having problems vs LHB.

 

I still don't know what you are trying to say lol

[Governator]

4.78 FIP in the best start of his career

 

perspective

 

3.77 xFIP and from your 5th starter its as good as the Jays can ask for.

[reedjohnsonfan]

He got 11 swinging strikes, which in 106 pitches is good. You can't really praise him for weak contact or control though. The curveball looked pretty as usual but it wasn't really thrown for strikes and didn't generate whiffs. Only the two-seamer does anything for him.

 

 

Tonight he struck out batters at a 6.14 K/9 rate. For the season he's at 5.96. So this start hardly featured a strikeout surge.

 

Thanks. I'm not claiming he's a strikeout artist don't worry. I just meant that he does have a lot more K potential than he's shown. It's doubtful he's going to be a 7.5 k/9 starter, but closer to 7 k/9 as long as he can improve his control is within his realistic capabilities. Time will tell, I guess they're committed to him for a little while longer so we'll get to see if he can build on this.

[Macsattack]

Sanchez issues are still the same issues =D. He faced 6 RHB, and 3LHB everything went pretty much as expected.

 

Next your gonna argue that the sky isn't blue enough or there wasn't enough clouds to block out the sun. Argue until I'm right......