Omar Infante seeking 4 years 40M - Signs with KC Royals

[jaysblue]

f***, this was the exact player AA should have targeted and he even signed for less than what anybody thought.

 

How do we know AA never targeted Infante?

[jaysblue]

Hogwash......he killed it in the Majors prior to his injuries, you don't like him?

 

I guess since Espinosa sucked last season because of injuries, his 2011 and 2012 season don't count, despite him being only 26 years old. Though an aging Omar Infante who had a super high BABIP, can't take a walk (and we're talking BB% JPA bad) and who isn't anything special defensively and offensively is definitely worth $40 + million!

[Chappy]

How do we know AA never targeted Infante?

 

We don't. But there are no indications at all that he did. I'm not ripping him for this, just pointing out that this would have been a good player to sign.

[jaysblue]

We don't. But there are no indications at all that he did. I'm not ripping him for this, just pointing out that this would have been a good player to sign.

 

At the price he signed for, agreed!

 

At 4 years/$40 + million like how some posters were suggesting, I wouldn't have felt comfortable.

[Stangstag]

So... This pretty much confirms that AA is looking at pitching and nothing else. What a f***ing joke.

[jaysblue]

I do, there's just obviously some risk. He won't be a 3.0 WAR player anymore.

 

And what makes you think Infante will hold his own over the next 4 years at the age of 32?

[bzapple]

Holy f***. I don't like criticizing a GM for moves not made, but if AA didn't offer Infante at least 4/40 he didn't do his job. f***.

 

Don't worry, we'll trade for him next year.

[ElNik2013]

Infante's too young, AA will sign Ellis.

 

Seriously though, AA has about 10M to spend and he'll throw it at pitching. I hope I'm wrong.

[fireballW]

So... This pretty much confirms that AA is looking at pitching and nothing else. What a f***ing joke.

 

Nah. It confirms either Infante didn't want to play on turf, or that AA wasn't as excited about him as the some war worshippers on this site. Infante should never have been paid 4/40 like some on here are saying, not at all. I don't want to watch him aging with us.

[ElNik2013]

I really hope we find out that AA was in on Infante and was turned down, but let's face it, if the Yanks offered 24/3, the Royals or any other team had to offer 4 years to get him or he would've signed with the Yankees.

 

I guess the one positive is that the Yankees didn't get him.

[P2F]

So... This pretty much confirms that AA is looking at pitching and nothing else. What a f***ing joke.

 

Or... he's putting all of his eggs in one basket - a trade, perhaps?

[mitchf]

I'm honestly shocked that the Royals didn't come to the conclusion that Bonifacio's slash line over 179 PA's was going to remain constant.

 

This is a good signing.

[LGBJ29]

So... This pretty much confirms that AA is looking at pitching and nothing else. What a f***ing joke.

 

settle down, you're just making random assumptions now because you're upset

[Boxcar]

Holy f***. I don't like criticizing a GM for moves not made, but if AA didn't offer Infante at least 4/40 he didn't do his job. f***.

 

He'd probably have liked Infante more if he could have traded prospects to acquire him.

[xposbrad]

Looks like some of the posters here were quite a bit off in what he'd sign for or what he was apparently worth. But, it is a bit upsetting we didn't at least get it on him, there's no way he'd have picked KC over Toronto if there was an offer for the same amount.

[kcjaysfan]

there's no way he'd have picked KC over Toronto if there was an offer for the same amount.

 

How do you know this?

[Stangstag]

How do you know this?

 

Either way, Im sure he would have accepted a 4/36 offer from us.

[The Cats Ass]

I can't believe the Yankees didn't beat that. Unless they are actually trying to get under the luxary tax.

[TwistedLogic]

Looks like some of the posters here were quite a bit off in what he'd sign for or what he was apparently worth. But, it is a bit upsetting we didn't at least get it on him, there's no way he'd have picked KC over Toronto if there was an offer for the same amount.

 

I guessed 4/32, so I was off by only 0.5M AAV. And if it turns out the Jays didn't atleast offer that much, and end up going into the season with Izturis/Goins, it's going to look pretty f***ing bad.

 

I'm hoping that the only reason Jays weren't in on him (seemingly, at least) is because they have a hopefully reasonable plan for 2B already.

[Abomination]

I can't believe the Yankees didn't beat that. Unless they are actually trying to get under the luxary tax.

 

It IS possible that he doesn't want to play in New York too, or perhaps he has family in KC or something.

[admin]

Wow $30M. I was on the fence with $40M over 4, but $30M/4 is pretty damn good. I cant' believe AA wouldn't have been in on that. Unbelievable.

 

I'm still bitter we missed out on Fister. Can't believe that.

[Anemic0ffense]

Everyone points to the Dickey and Marlins trades as bad moves last winter, and rightfully so, but why the f*** did we sign Izturdis? Yeah, yeah, yeah the contract is hardly crippling, but FO's never admit mistakes... Rat boy will be our 2B along with Alo *cough* I mean Goins in 2014... Sorry, by the way this org talks about Goins, I thought he was some legendary 2B from the 90's for a second

 

#clueless

[Abomination]

Wow $30M. I was on the fence with $40M over 4, but $30M/4 is pretty damn good. I cant' believe AA wouldn't have been in on that. Unbelievable.

 

I'm still bitter we missed out on Fister. Can't believe that.

 

I don't think we can blame AA about Fister. He seemed just as frustrated as we are when asked about it. Infante is anyone's guess (maybe he didn't want to play here no matter what), but he turned down a higher AAV from the Yankees too it seems. Regardless, there appears to be lots of available 2nd baseman via trade that should be able to provide similar production to Infante at a much cheaper price. Provided we don't give up a top prospect or major current piece of the roster, that may be a preferable way to go anyhow.

[Abomination]

Everyone points to the Dickey and Marlins trades as bad moves last winter, and rightfully so, but why the f*** did we sign Izturdis? Yeah, yeah, yeah the contract is hardly crippling, but FO's never admit mistakes... Rat boy will be our 2B along with Alo *cough* I mean Goins in 2014... Sorry, by the way this org talks about Goins, I thought he was some legendary 2B from the 90's for a second

 

#clueless

 

Izzy was not a bad signing overall (at the time). Sure the term could have been shorter, but if he was available this off-season (without last season having occurred) he probably would have been getting 5+ M. No one could have predicted he'd have one of the worst seasons in history.

[ElNik2013]

AA keeps going in circles for whatever reason. He traded Aviles, who can play SS and 2B, and Gomes who, it turned out, could really catch and actually hit last year. He then traded both Escobar, and I know he was probably told to release him, and Hech in the Marlins trade. Then he traded D'Arnaud to the Mets. He had also traded Perez to the Astros in July 2012. So basically he has completely destroyed the depth the organization had up the middle and he did it in a span of about 4 months. I guess we could add Marisnick since he's a CF, but they still have Gose.

 

To make matters worse, most of the above-mentioned assets were traded to address the team's starting pitching. So guess what? He has spent this whole off season AGAIN trying to improve the team's starting pitching as well as addressing holes up the middle which he created by trading players who were slated to fill these very positions, gotta love it. What really bothers me is how no one in the media scrutinizes what he has done. Who knows

[Anemic0ffense]

Izzy was not a bad signing overall (at the time). Sure the term could have been shorter, but if he was available this off-season (without last season having occurred) he probably would have been getting 5+ M. No one could have predicted he'd have one of the worst seasons in history.

 

Ok, I wouldn't say it was bad, but wasn't he signed very early in the off-season, without him (AA) even exploring other options? I just think they tied their hands with Izturis, and somehow still view him as a starter in this league, even though ALL evidence proves otherwise. There are plenty of 2B options, and AA hasn't been linked to one of em. I don't think this is "ninja AA" here either. More like "dumn AA".

Edited December 14, 2013 by Anemic0ffense

[Abomination]

Ok, I wouldn't say it was bad, but wasn't he signed very early in the off-season, without him (AA) even exploring other options? I just think they tied their hands with this Izturis, and somehow still view him as a starter in this league, even though ALL evidence proves otherwise. There are plenty of 2B options, and AA hasn't been linked to one of em. I don't think this is "ninja AA" here either. More like "dumn AA".

 

It seems they don't view him as a starter, since they have been fairly clear in saying that the current plan is for Goins to start and Izzy to be a super utility guy. Now THAT we can (and have) picked apart for days.

 

As for AA not being linked by the media to the 2B options, I don't really care. I DO care whether or not he is pursuing them behind the scenes.

[Anemic0ffense]

Goins has late inning defensive replacement AT MOST written all over him... How they can't see this is beyond comprehension... But who are we, right? Looks like we'll be seeing John McDonald part 2 in our lineup most of the year again

[Grant77]

It seems obvious that we should at the very least grab a veteran like Ellis or Roberts and use Goins as insurance, but I'm not sure they will do it. I'd love to see us go after a long term solution like Ackley or Franklin while they are available.

[TwistedLogic]

Ok, I wouldn't say it was bad, but wasn't he signed very early in the off-season, without him (AA) even exploring other options? I just think they tied their hands with Izturis, and somehow still view him as a starter in this league, even though ALL evidence proves otherwise. There are plenty of 2B options, and AA hasn't been linked to one of em. I don't think this is "ninja AA" here either. More like "dumn AA".

 

If I remember correctly (I could have this backwards), Aviles and Gomes were traded for Esmil Rogers before Izturis was signed.