Blue Jays Minor League Highlights Thread

[jmomcc]

Spencer Miles was the opposite of risky realistically. You pay 50k and that's it. 

I'd say its possible that Perry moves fast but it will centre on how they grade his pitches. If they think he can get outs in the majors and he's at triple A, he could get called. 

[glory]

 

[Olerud363.354]

3 hours ago, max silver said:

Perry has maxed out at 46 innings in 2024 prior to UCL surgery and will likely be shut down far before the major league season ends.

I didn't suggest he come up and pitch 120 innings and the playoffs.

If he is capable of 25 innings for the MLB club this year maybe now is the time to use them if we think Bieber/Scherzer/Cease are coming back for mid June. 

[Olerud363.354]

2 hours ago, jmomcc said:

I'd say its possible that Perry moves fast but it will centre on how they grade his pitches. If they think he can get outs in the majors and he's at triple A, he could get called. 

Maybe his pitches don't actually grade that well.  I don't know.  At the very least he should make his next start in New Hampshire.

[Olerud363.354]

2 hours ago, jmomcc said:

Spencer Miles was the opposite of risky realistically. You pay 50k and that's it. 

It wasn't just 50k.  The risk breaking camp with Miles was you lose a roster spot for a couple of weeks and he loses the team a couple of games and a different player that had to be DFAd to keep Miles. 

The risk with Perry would be similar.  You use a roster spot, and one of his options, and he loses a couple of games, maybe has his confidence shaken. 

 

[Laika]

4 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Maybe his pitches don't actually grade that well.  I don't know.  At the very least he should make his next start in New Hampshire.

His pitches do grade well. Not elite, but sort of a Spencer Miles grade distribution where the FB, SL, Curve all rate above average. 

And the prospect guys (scouting types) are already saying he's in the next top 100 lists. 

Ideally you would like to see a bit more velo.

No chance he pitches for Toronto this year, I think that's crazy. Maybe next year. 

[max silver]

24 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I didn't suggest he come up and pitch 120 innings and the playoffs.

If he is capable of 25 innings for the MLB club this year maybe now is the time to use them if we think Bieber/Scherzer/Cease are coming back for mid June. 

It feels like it would be awfully rushed to speed Perry through the minors to this degree.

[43211234]

I highly doubt Perry pitches in Toronto this year. 

 

But being a high school pick and missing a year with TJS he actually has to be added to the 40-man this off-season to avoid the rule 5 draft.

 

So he'll get a look in spring training next year at the least. And a good chance to be on the SP depth chart.

[John_Havok]

1 hour ago, 43211234 said:

I highly doubt Perry pitches in Toronto this year. 

 

But being a high school pick and missing a year with TJS he actually has to be added to the 40-man this off-season to avoid the rule 5 draft.

 

So he'll get a look in spring training next year at the least. And a good chance to be on the SP depth chart.

The Jays can probably get another year in the minors due to that injury amd time off. They just have to ask for it and make a good case

[John_Havok]

Nimmala was lifted in the 4th inning of today's Fisher Cats game. Hope it's nothing serious. 

[John_Havok]

Davis Schneider is 2 for 2 with 4 walks since returning to Buffalo. 

AAAA guy??

[Olerud363.354]

16 hours ago, 43211234 said:

But being a high school pick and missing a year with TJS he actually has to be added to the 40-man this off-season to avoid the rule 5 draft.

That is why Jays Center hive mind is wrong, and there is a chance he'll pitch this year.  

He's not - 19 years old

He's not - 3 years away from having to be added to the 40 man

He's not - 2-3 with a 3.44 ERA 20 walks and 32 strike-out

He's almost 23, putting up the best numbers possible 

Hive mind has trouble with the concept of chance, and the curve they use is Gaussian with small tails, so unusual cases result in incorrect hive mind output. 

Remember you guys are still part human and sometimes will frame back in.  If it help here is definition of chance according to chatGPT.  

“Chance” usually means a nonzero possibility something could happen.
“No chance” means effectively impossible (probability zero, or so close to zero people treat it as impossible).

Examples:

• “There’s a chance it rains” → possible.
• “There’s no chance it rains indoors” → impossible under normal assumptions.

[Laika]

1 hour ago, Olerud363.354 said:

That is why Jays Center hive mind is wrong, and there is a chance he'll pitch this year.  

He's not - 19 years old

He's not - 3 years away from having to be added to the 40 man

He's not - 2-3 with a 3.44 ERA 20 walks and 32 strike-out

He's almost 23, putting up the best numbers possible 

Hive mind has trouble with the concept of chance, and the curve they use is Gaussian with small tails, so unusual cases result in incorrect hive mind output. 

Remember you guys are still part human and sometimes will frame back in.  If it help here is definition of chance according to chatGPT.  

“Chance” usually means a nonzero possibility something could happen.
“No chance” means effectively impossible (probability zero, or so close to zero people treat it as impossible).

Examples:

• “There’s a chance it rains” → possible.
• “There’s no chance it rains indoors” → impossible under normal assumptions.

Fine. We won't talk in absolutes. 

No Realistic Chance. 

Put the "realistic" line wherever you want. Less than a 1% chance. Whatever. 

Perry PROBABLY has the stuff to help the big league team this year out of the bullpen or as a swingman for a couple of months, but that would be a big developmental risk and is not something this organization has a track record of doing. 

Being said, here is the best video I have seen of Perry. He looks so good. The command he has of these pitches is extremely impressive. He has the look of a college Ace SP who just went top 10 in the Rule 4 draft. That is what he FEELS LIKE to me. Just without any history of innings, whatsoever. Like, I can almost imagine the draft scouting reports where he is praised for his poise, mechanics, command, polish, fastball shape and breaking ball quality, but scouts question his top end stuff or velo and whether it will translate into a front line MLB starter. 

 

 

[JaysForever]

11 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Davis Schneider is 2 for 2 with 4 walks since returning to Buffalo. 

AAAA guy??

Hopefully this stint allows him to reset and get back on track.

[Laika]

Keith Law on Parker (37th in his top 50 today)

Parker has hit .239/.384/.384 so far in his pro debut, with much harder contact than the statline implies. His exit velocity has peaked at 109.2 in-season after hitting a ball at 111 mph in spring training. He’s uber-patient, swinging just 37 percent of the time, and has ended up with two strikes on him in more than half of his PA this year, a condition known around here as “Emmanuel Rodriguez Syndrome.” In 2-0 and 3-1 counts, when you’d expect him to be in attack mode, he’s only swung at 17 percent of pitches while taking strikes almost half the time. The Jays have mostly kept him at shortstop with a few games at third base; second also seems like an option. Batting average is far from my favorite stat for a hitter at any age or level, but I do expect Parker’s to creep up over the course of the season as he goes after more pitches in hitters’ counts.

And Nimmala (41st)

Nimmala returned to High A, where he spent most of last year, and hit well enough out of the gate for Toronto to bump their 2023 first-rounder up to Double A in early May, where he’s hit .317/.359/.383 in 17 games. He’s a true shortstop who does have plus power and he’s been making more hard line-drive contact since he got to the Eastern League, where pitchers have been attacking him with more sliders and he’s still adjusting.

He also put Perry in his HM section:

 

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Other players who weren’t on my preseason top 100 ranking but are heading towards next winter’s list include:

• Nolan Perry, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays
• Nate Payne, LHP, Miami Marlins
• Jhonny Level, SS, San Francisco Giants
• Ethan Petry, OF, Washington Nationals
• Devin Fitz-Gerald, 2B, Washington Nationals
• Roldy Brito, OF/2B, Colorado Rockies
• Charles Davalan, OF, Los Angeles Dodgers
• Ty Harvey, C, San Diego Padres
• Josh Hammond, SS, Kansas City Royals
• Luke Stevenson, C, Seattle Mariners

[Olerud363.354]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Perry PROBABLY has the stuff to help the big league team this year out of the bullpen or as a swingman for a couple of months, but that would be a big developmental risk and is not something this organization has a track record of doing. 

They just did it with Yesavage.  And it was a big risk.   If he got hammered against the Royals or the Rays in September there is no playoff run and Yesavage comes into 2026 as the rookie they stupidly gave a Chris Bassett start to. 

I'm not advocating him as a swingman for a couple of months.  What I am advocating is one or 2 four innings swingman appearances at a point of time where he is the best option using the following criteria

- age 22.5 or older

- approaching timepoint he needs to be 40 manned

- stuff rated very high by fancy metrics and scouts

- mentally strong

- ability to show up for 3 weeks, give 3 semi-start like appearances 12 good innings, better then a 29 year old who played in Wichita last year would

[Laika]

1 minute ago, Olerud363.354 said:

They just did it with Yesavage.  And it was a big risk.   If he got hammered against the Royals or the Rays in September there is no playoff run and Yesavage comes into 2026 as the rookie they stupidly gave a Chris Bassett start to. 

I'm not advocating him as a swingman for a couple of months.  What I am advocating is one or 2 four innings swingman appearances at a point of time where he is the best option using the following criteria

- age 22.5 or older

- approaching timepoint he needs to be 40 manned

- stuff rated very high by fancy metrics and scouts

- mentally strong

- ability to show up for 3 weeks, give 3 semi-start like appearances 12 good innings, better then a 29 year old who played in Wichita last year would

They did NOT do it with Yesavage. 

Trey had like 213 IP between college and summer ball in 2022 to 2024, then 98 minor league innings before getting called up. And then his usage was expanded by context (playoffs) beyond what Toronto was probably even comfortable with. And as a reaction, they then sort of faked an injury with him this year to bring him along slowly in 2026. 

Perry was drafted in  2022 and had just 84 pro innings between then and the start of 2026. Injury and recovery timelines all over the place. If Toronto lets him throw 90 in the minors this year and then calls him up for MLB innings, it is only comparable to Trey if you ignore all of that substrate. 

But hey, believe in the science. If Toronto does not think he is a bigger injury risk than Yesavage was, go ahead and do it. 

[jmomcc]

23 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

It wasn't just 50k.  The risk breaking camp with Miles was you lose a roster spot for a couple of weeks and he loses the team a couple of games and a different player that had to be DFAd to keep Miles. 

The risk with Perry would be similar.  You use a roster spot, and one of his options, and he loses a couple of games, maybe has his confidence shaken. 

 

Once he breaks camp though you have decided at that point he's worth it. You can send him back before that. 

[jmomcc]

51 minutes ago, Laika said:

Keith Law on Parker (37th in his top 50 today)

Parker has hit .239/.384/.384 so far in his pro debut, with much harder contact than the statline implies. His exit velocity has peaked at 109.2 in-season after hitting a ball at 111 mph in spring training. He’s uber-patient, swinging just 37 percent of the time, and has ended up with two strikes on him in more than half of his PA this year, a condition known around here as “Emmanuel Rodriguez Syndrome.” In 2-0 and 3-1 counts, when you’d expect him to be in attack mode, he’s only swung at 17 percent of pitches while taking strikes almost half the time. The Jays have mostly kept him at shortstop with a few games at third base; second also seems like an option. Batting average is far from my favorite stat for a hitter at any age or level, but I do expect Parker’s to creep up over the course of the season as he goes after more pitches in hitters’ counts.

And Nimmala (41st)

Nimmala returned to High A, where he spent most of last year, and hit well enough out of the gate for Toronto to bump their 2023 first-rounder up to Double A in early May, where he’s hit .317/.359/.383 in 17 games. He’s a true shortstop who does have plus power and he’s been making more hard line-drive contact since he got to the Eastern League, where pitchers have been attacking him with more sliders and he’s still adjusting.

He also put Perry in his HM section:

 

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Other players who weren’t on my preseason top 100 ranking but are heading towards next winter’s list include:

• Nolan Perry, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays
• Nate Payne, LHP, Miami Marlins
• Jhonny Level, SS, San Francisco Giants
• Ethan Petry, OF, Washington Nationals
• Devin Fitz-Gerald, 2B, Washington Nationals
• Roldy Brito, OF/2B, Colorado Rockies
• Charles Davalan, OF, Los Angeles Dodgers
• Ty Harvey, C, San Diego Padres
• Josh Hammond, SS, Kansas City Royals
• Luke Stevenson, C, Seattle Mariners

When i hear people talk about Nimmala, i always think they have him way too low. That's a star profile. 

[Laika]

3 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

When i hear people talk about Nimmala, i always think they have him way too low. That's a star profile. 

He has a chance to be a stud

A couple of years ago with his 30% K rates he looked like a future Orelvis Martinez, with decent defense. Which would be a bench player. 

But now he's got it all going on. K rate under control. Taking walks. Hitting the ball hard enough. Defense is there. Age vs. level is great. He's probably underrated because he has never had a LOUD offensive season. 

[max silver]

13 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Davis Schneider is 2 for 2 with 4 walks since returning to Buffalo. 

AAAA guy??

He's had some really nice seasons as a bench player and underwent similar struggles last season before his Buffalo reset where he returned to MLB and mashed. 

[Olerud363.354]

59 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

When i hear people talk about Nimmala, i always think they have him way too low. That's a star profile. 

What star has ever hit .230 as a minor leaguer?   

Daulton Varsho hit .290 .360 .500 as a minor leaguer with a great k rate and look how that translated. 

Orelvis had a bad year at 20 but overall same as Arjun + more power. 

There is no player that his like Arjun has so far that has ever become a star.  

All three have high infield fly ball rates, low ground ball rates which makes them hit for a low average.

Arjun will overcome this?   Maybe.... it will be historic.  First minor league .230 hitter to become a star. 

[Olerud363.354]

Obviously he is much improved now that he is a .300 hitter in double a.  

I agree if he kept that up for a few months you can move him up.   

Not to be a jerk about all this.  But no blue jays prospect has hit in an exciting way, like a good prospect should hit since Gabriel Moreno when he .380 at aa before they broke his hand. 

They all hit .230 now or less.. but there are some complicated reasons we should still have hope... hope its true. 

[Olerud363.354]

Vlad/Bo/Kirk/Moreno era - prospects hit the s*** of the s***** towns across America and these guys do a combined .330 .400 .550 in the minors.  Blue Jays message board (justifiably) excited.

Arjun/Bonilla/Sanchez/Parker era - hit a combined .220 .300 .390.  Blue Jays Central (formerly known as Blue Jays Message Board) just as excited because advanced stats good and young guys take a while to learn. 

[jmomcc]

15 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

What star has ever hit .230 as a minor leaguer?   

Daulton Varsho hit .290 .360 .500 as a minor leaguer with a great k rate and look how that translated. 

Orelvis had a bad year at 20 but overall same as Arjun + more power. 

There is no player that his like Arjun has so far that has ever become a star.  

All three have high infield fly ball rates, low ground ball rates which makes them hit for a low average.

Arjun will overcome this?   Maybe.... it will be historic.  First minor league .230 hitter to become a star. 

Its crazy this is the first guy i thought about because i've always thought him and nimmala might have similarities,,, but yea trevor story hit .233 his first year at High A. 

[Terminator]

35 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Vlad/Bo/Kirk/Moreno era - prospects hit the s*** of the s***** towns across America and these guys do a combined .330 .400 .550 in the minors.  Blue Jays message board (justifiably) excited.

Arjun/Bonilla/Sanchez/Parker era - hit a combined .220 .300 .390.  Blue Jays Central (formerly known as Blue Jays Message Board) just as excited because advanced stats good and young guys take a while to learn. 

Lol no one is "just as excited" about the bottom group (Top 100ish) as they were the top group (Top 10ish). 

[Terminator]

59 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

What star has ever hit .230 as a minor leaguer?   

Daulton Varsho hit .290 .360 .500 as a minor leaguer with a great k rate and look how that translated. 

Orelvis had a bad year at 20 but overall same as Arjun + more power. 

There is no player that his like Arjun has so far that has ever become a star.  

All three have high infield fly ball rates, low ground ball rates which makes them hit for a low average.

Arjun will overcome this?   Maybe.... it will be historic.  First minor league .230 hitter to become a star. 

I can't believe someone is using Batting Average in the year 2026 but there are a shitload of guys.

George Springer hit .179 in low A as a 21 year old and .219 as a 22 year old in AA.

Ben Rice hit .197 in the Complex League and A-Ball as a 21 year old in his first year in pro ball. There's two guys I found after looking for 5 minutes.

Nimmala is currently hitting .308 as a 20 year old in AA for whatever that is worth.

But in any event, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here anyway. Nimmala is a Top 50ish prospect, and a 50 FV. That's good but nothing special. Every team in the league has at least one of these kind of guys.

[jmomcc]

17 minutes ago, Terminator said:

I can't believe someone is using Batting Average in the year 2026 but there are a shitload of guys.

George Springer hit .179 in low A as a 21 year old and .219 as a 22 year old in AA.

Ben Rice hit .197 in the Complex League and A-Ball as a 21 year old in his first year in pro ball. There's two guys I found after looking for 5 minutes.

Nimmala is currently hitting .308 as a 20 year old in AA for whatever that is worth.

But in any event, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here anyway. Nimmala is a Top 50ish prospect, and a 50 FV. That's good but nothing special. Every team in the league has at least one of these kind of guys.

There are 50s i like more than others. 

Some profiles rely so much on one tool. Nimmala represents a nice blend of floor and upside. He's definitely a 50 I wouldn't trade personally. 

[Stangstag]

15 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Davis Schneider is 2 for 2 with 4 walks since returning to Buffalo. 

AAAA guy??

Nope, just very streaky and seems to be a slow starter. Didn’t he look like a DFA candidate for the first couple months last year?

[Stangstag]

30 minutes ago, Terminator said:

I can't believe someone is using Batting Average in the year 2026 but there are a shitload of guys.

George Springer hit .179 in low A as a 21 year old and .219 as a 22 year old in AA.

Ben Rice hit .197 in the Complex League and A-Ball as a 21 year old in his first year in pro ball. There's two guys I found after looking for 5 minutes.

Nimmala is currently hitting .308 as a 20 year old in AA for whatever that is worth.

But in any event, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here anyway. Nimmala is a Top 50ish prospect, and a 50 FV. That's good but nothing special. Every team in the league has at least one of these kind of guys.

Burnt him to a crisp