Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2026)

[Bob_Gratton]

On 7/25/2026 at 10:49 AM, jaysblue said:

Once Kirk starts slipping defensively, his value takes a major hit. Offensively, he hasn’t shown that he can consistently replicate his 2022 or 2025 production from year to year. If he’s no longer an elite defensive catcher, he’s not automatically a 2–3 WAR player. When the defense and offense are both there, he can be a 4–5 WAR catcher. But if the bat regresses and the defense begins to decline, his overall value drops pretty quickly.

The front office need to tell him that he should lost weights. They did with Vlad, maybe this worked one season, but at less it's worked😄

[Jays24]

Any update on Santandar? Heard he had a setback but looking for some false hope we got reinforcements coming lol

[John_Havok]

3 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Any update on Santandar? Heard he had a setback but looking for some false hope we got reinforcements coming lol

Likely done for the year even though it hasnt been officially annnounced.

He had some discomfort in the shoukder while rehabning and had a second cortisone injection in July. Has not resumed hitting activities yet as far as I know which pretty much puts him out for the year when you consider the ramp up he would need.

[Brownie19]

18 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Likely done for the year even though it hasnt been officially annnounced.

He had some discomfort in the shoukder while rehabning and had a second cortisone injection in July. Has not resumed hitting activities yet as far as I know which pretty much puts him out for the year when you consider the ramp up he would need.

What a disaster.  

[John_Havok]

37 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

What a disaster.  

Though not the worst possible outcome...oddly enough.

I think it would be worse if he was healthy and just hitting like garbage like Vlad.

At least this way he's out of sight, out of mind and some other guy gets a shot to cover at least some of the projected offensive output.

[Governator]

So Gausman's next start on normal day's rest is lined up to be against the Jays in a make up game Thursday, if the give him the ball.  Please give him the ball.

[Omar]

What's wrong with Vladdy?  Ross Atkins gives a non-answer but at least they asked...

 

 

[Eat My Shatkins]

It's just completely and utterly ridiculous how every time there might be a little bit of light shining through, something immediately happens to make everything dark again.

Jays get a good start from Scherzer off the IL, Biebs makes his 4th good start in 5 games, jays then shore up the rotation at the deadline by adding Soriano and Arrighetti, very next day Trey Yesavage hurts himself warming up.

 

This season is a complete tire fire. never ends this ********.

[Eat My Shatkins]

The funniest (saddest) thing about this season is that even with all the pitching injuries and Kirk/Springer early injuries if the offense would have just went from top 2 or 3 to middle of the pack, they'd probably be in a wild card spot. But no, it had to go from top 2 or 3 to pretty much the worst offense in baseball. Unreal.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Boss Atkins just shouldering the blame like a man's man despite loading this team up 8 SP's deep last winter, bringing back 90% of the #1 offense & defense in baseball from last season and adding Okamoto to it.

[Omar]

We got a knuckler!

 

[Jonn]

Just now, Omar said:

We got a knuckler!

 

Love this move. Another depth Starter who has already had some success and tons of control. Just a no brainer

[Omar]

Just now, Jonn said:

Love this move. Another depth Starter who has already had some success and tons of control. Just a no brainer

Except he sucks.

[Jonn]

3 minutes ago, Omar said:

Except he sucks.

Debatable their is upside here.

[Orgfiller]

Just saw this and needed to repost it because of how disgusting it made me feel.

Myles Straw in the most recent Houston series (3 games): 4 XBH

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. in the month of May: 3 XBH

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. in the month of June: 4 XBH

[Terminator]

29 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

Just saw this and needed to repost it because of how disgusting it made me feel.

Myles Straw in the most recent Houston series (3 games): 4 XBH

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. in the month of May: 3 XBH

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. in the month of June: 4 XBH

Dear god

[John_Havok]

Yimi may actually be done.

Thoracic Outlet Syndrome diagnosis. Might be calling it a career at this point.

[Pendleton]

15 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Yimi may actually be done.

Thoracic Outlet Syndrome diagnosis. Might be calling it a career at this point.

Yeah that's a long road back for a soon-to-be 36 year old pitcher, probably will be it for him 

[HomeRunHomer]

 

[Ryu In My House]

I am torn between wanting the Jays to tank and end up bottom 6 to protect their draft pick, and cheering for them to somehow get the last WC spot.

They will likely end up with neither. I mean, given the way the Jays have so far rolled snake eyes across the board this season ~ mostly with injuries ~ would anyone be surprised?

I was looking it up, historically picks 1-10 generate 9.8 career WAR, where as picks 11-30 generate about 4.7 career WAR.

[Olerud363.354]

26 minutes ago, Ryu In My House said:

I am torn between wanting the Jays to tank and end up bottom 6 to protect their draft pick, and cheering for them to somehow get the last WC spot.

So they did not get under the payroll threshold to keep their draft pick?  

How does the 10 spot penalty work?  Is it on their actual pick position or their place in the standings?

If they finish 9th last and win the lottery does their 1 get sent back to 11?

If they finish 5th last but get screwed in the lottery to 8th, does the 8th get sent back to 18?

[Olerud363.354]

On 8/4/2026 at 10:41 PM, Eat My Shatkins said:

The funniest (saddest) thing about this season is that even with all the pitching injuries and Kirk/Springer early injuries if the offense would have just went from top 2 or 3 to middle of the pack, they'd probably be in a wild card spot. But no, it had to go from top 2 or 3 to pretty much the worst offense in baseball. Unreal.

The second order effect of the offense on the bullpen is brutal. 

To win 3/4 coin flip games I think required Varland to pitch 3/4 including last nights 2 inning 30 pitch effort. 

It required Rogers to pitch twice including a 30 pitch effort.   And everybody else had to chip in 

You can't have a sustained hot streak like this, first the games are coin flips and it won't always flip your way and it destroys the bullpen. 

[Olerud363.354]

I love Davis Schneider but should he be sent down for Keys ?

They don't appear to trust Schneider too much anymore and maybe justifiably so.

Call up Keys and play Vlad/Springer/Okamoto/Keys 75% of the time.

Okamoto looks gassed.  Vlad looked great after 3 days off.  Springer is an old man and injury prone.  Keys if called up needs regular at bats.    

Maybe Vlad would be pissed at being a 75% player but I think you could justify at this point.  The Barry Bonds Kawai Leonard load management system.  Those two loved it, get Vlad and Springer to embrace it too., 

[Pendleton]

1 hour ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I love Davis Schneider but should he be sent down for Keys ?

They don't appear to trust Schneider too much anymore and maybe justifiably so.

Call up Keys and play Vlad/Springer/Okamoto/Keys 75% of the time.

Okamoto looks gassed.  Vlad looked great after 3 days off.  Springer is an old man and injury prone.  Keys if called up needs regular at bats.    

Maybe Vlad would be pissed at being a 75% player but I think you could justify at this point.  The Barry Bonds Kawai Leonard load management system.  Those two loved it, get Vlad and Springer to embrace it too., 

 

Sign Austin Hays to platoon/pinch hit against lefties and send Schneider down 

[Olerud363.354]

18 minutes ago, Pendleton said:

Sign Austin Hays to platoon/pinch hit against lefties and send Schneider down 

But the idea is to give Springer, Vlad and Okamoto days off.  So you would play them 100% against lefties, and keys 100% against righties with one of them getting a day off. 

That would work out to the right amount of load management I think and give Keys a defined role (last time he sat a lot even against righties). 

[Jays24]

Was there any update on Santandar?  He had a setback (again) as of a month ago but havent heard anything since. 

He was originally slated to return in August before that but curious if he can be expected at all in September.  Doubtful I know lol.  

[max silver]

11 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Was there any update on Santandar?  He had a setback (again) as of a month ago but havent heard anything since. 

He was originally slated to return in August before that but curious if he can be expected at all in September.  Doubtful I know lol.  

I haven't heard anything since the setback either when it was reported he was feeling pain when swinging the bat. 

[G-Snarls]

The videos are kind of amusing.

 

 

 

 

[John_Havok]

2 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Was there any update on Santandar?  He had a setback (again) as of a month ago but havent heard anything since. 

He was originally slated to return in August before that but curious if he can be expected at all in September.  Doubtful I know lol.  

You asked this 5 days ago. Nothing has changed since then

[Jays24]

1 minute ago, John_Havok said:

You asked this 5 days ago. Nothing has changed since then

So news isnt allowed to come out from a week ago?  Havent been following Jays much off the field lately.  Thank you