Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2026)

[jaysblue]

10 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

We're not getting Trout.  Cool fantasy I guess.  I also hate Jazz. Low IQ dipsh*t showoff.  No thanks.

[G-Snarls]

55 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

This will be the Angels 11th losing season in a row 

If he hasn't left already why would he bother now 

Edit: I suppose all those years with Ohtani he probably felt they had a chance. And then some loyalty for all the money they threw at him. But the team has done nothing to prove they're trying to win. Maybe he finally realizes that and wants a last hurrah on a contender. 

[jaysblue]

8 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

This will be the Angels 11th losing season in a row 

If he hasn't left already why would he bother now 

Edit: I suppose all those years with Ohtani he probably felt they had a chance. And then some loyalty for all the money they threw at him. But the team has done nothing to prove they're trying to win. Maybe he finally realizes that and wants a last hurrah on a contender. 

Agree with everything you said. 

At some point, reality has to set in. This is about to be their 11th straight losing season, Ohtani is gone, and the organization still hasn’t shown any real ability to build a serious winner around him. If he wants one last real shot at meaningful baseball while he can still impact games, this might be the point where he finally realizes staying loyal to the Angels is just wasting the rest of his career.

[Laika]

Trout will remain an Angel into the last year or two of his career, when he is 38+, and he will then end up on the Dodgers in some kind of overpaid shortside platoon role getting maybe 350 PA. But he will beast out and everyone will love it and win a World Series. 

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, jaysblue said:

Agree with everything you said. 

At some point, reality has to set in. This is about to be their 11th straight losing season, Ohtani is gone, and the organization still hasn’t shown any real ability to build a serious winner around him. If he wants one last real shot at meaningful baseball while he can still impact games, this might be the point where he finally realizes staying loyal to the Angels is just wasting the rest of his career.

That realization was pretty clear years and years ago.  It's been a terrible organization for a long time.  He clearly doesn't care.

Would there actually indications to him that things would be any different in Toronto?  We're the AL version of the Mets.

[G-Snarls]

31 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

That realization was pretty clear years and years ago.  It's been a terrible organization for a long time.  He clearly doesn't care.

Would there actually indications to him that things would be any different in Toronto?  We're the AL version of the Mets.

Exactly.  He has total control over any potential trade and I don't see any likelihood that he would pick/allow Toronto to acquire him.

At the end of the world series we might have had some credit. But I'll bet this abysmal first half has probably cost about 80% of the good vibes that were there. 

[Terminator]

11 hours ago, jaysblue said:

One of the best horror/thrillers I've seen in a long time. Same here, jumped out of my seat. 

Backrooms is better

[John_Havok]

2 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

That realization was pretty clear years and years ago.  It's been a terrible organization for a long time.  He clearly doesn't care.

Would there actually indications to him that things would be any different in Toronto?  We're the AL version of the Mets.

Maybe this year. But the Mets haven't made a WS appearance since 2015. 

Thats one in favour of the Jays

[Olerud363.354]

2 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Would there actually indications to him that things would be any different in Toronto?  We're the AL version of the Mets.

That is why there is no baseball until at least 2028.   If you are looking to win there is one team to go to, then a second choice (Yankees).  But the second choice is like 200 million (when you take into account taxes) from the first choice.  But two teams that don't have losing seasons ever.  Only 2.  

Mets/Blue Jays.  Yes same brother different mother.  Similar in all respects.   Both, along with the Yankees will want to limit the Dodgers somehow.   If you are a great player and the Dodgers want you the Dodgers get you, so need a salary cap to stop that.  

[John_Havok]

Callis reporting the Jays got Carlon to sign at 2.4 million, a bit below the slot of 2,571,700

Tidy piece of work

 those late 18-20 round picks chances of signing just got higher.

 

[Olerud363.354]

3 hours ago, Laika said:

Trout will remain an Angel into the last year or two of his career, when he is 38+, and he will then end up on the Dodgers in some kind of overpaid shortside platoon role getting maybe 350 PA. But he will beast out and everyone will love it and win a World Series. 

2027 - No World Series (canceled lockout)

2028 - No World Series (canceled lockout)

2029 - World Series Dodgers 4-peat Starting line-up

Ohtani

Mike Trout

James Woods

Dodgers-super-prospect 

Vladimir Guerrero Jr (rehabilatated)

Abrahams

Corbin

Will Smith

Jazz

 

 

[Pendleton]

1 hour ago, John_Havok said:

Callis reporting the Jays got Carlon to sign at 2.4 million, a bit below the slot of 2,571,700

Tidy piece of work

 those late 18-20 round picks chances of signing just got higher.

 

I've been tracking the signings in this thread 

 

Round 18 pick announced he is staying in college, round 20 says he will sign. Already about 1.6M in savings between Carlon and rounds 5-10

[jaysblue]

4 hours ago, Terminator said:

Backrooms is better

Still have to watch! Will get it on 4K when it comes out. 

[Stangstag]

RIP to Duane Ward

Seems like he flew to Toronto friday to be part of the Carter statue unveiling, but fell suddenly ill. Report says natural causes.

[ComeTogether]

4 hours ago, Stangstag said:

RIP to Duane Ward

Seems like he flew to Toronto friday to be part of the Carter statue unveiling, but fell suddenly ill. Report says natural causes.

 

 

 

 

[Eat My Shatkins]

If you'd have told me at the start of the season that Cease, Varland and Okamoto would be as good as they've been, I'd have said the Jays will probably win the division in a landslide.

 

If you'd have told me they'd be in last place just after the AS break I'd have laughed my ass off at you.

[Olerud363.354]

25 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

If you'd have told me at the start of the season that Cease, Varland and Okamoto would be as good as they've been, I'd have said the Jays will probably win the division in a landslide.

 

If you'd have told me they'd be in last place just after the AS break I'd have laughed my ass off at you.

Totally true - if we told you 

1.  Vlad .350 slugging and loses all power

2. Varsho also loses all power

3.  Springer back to 2024 Springer

4.  Barger, Ponce, Berrios, Satander out for season 

5.  Heineman goes back to .200 .250 .300 hitter, and so does Kirk. 

6.  Schneider has to spend most of the year in the minors where he is holding a .500 on base but they still don't call him back up. 

7.  Hoffman brutal for first third of season and needs to be removed from closer roll

8.  Brandon Little has lost it so much he can't even stay around for 10 innings. 

-- all that you'd think they'd win 50 games -- put them together and it's a 70 win team. 

[Sorrow]

I think Guerreros is hitting something like .220/.240./.240 with a 45wRC+ in his last 200PA before the ASB.

 

I think the team should be selling with how many teams look like buyers. Try and dump the last bit of Springer, move Gausman and if he does well in his next few starts Bieber. If someone offers an interesting piece for Lukes or Clement they should be on the block as well. Clement is 30, has lost a step and it’s showing in the fielding and his base running and has an offensive profile that ages poorly. Lukes is 32 and a 4th OF which should be enough said. Try and get MLB ready or near pieces like obviously don’t trade just to trade.

[Stangstag]

8 minutes ago, Sorrow said:

I think Guerreros is hitting something like .220/.240./.240 with a 45wRC+ in his last 200PA before the ASB.

 

I think the team should be selling with how many teams look like buyers. Try and dump the last bit of Springer, move Gausman and if he does well in his next few starts Bieber. If someone offers an interesting piece for Lukes or Clement they should be on the block as well. Clement is 30, has lost a step and it’s showing in the fielding and his base running and has an offensive profile that ages poorly. Lukes is 32 and a 4th OF which should be enough said. Try and get MLB ready or near pieces like obviously don’t trade just to trade.

I’d keep Clement, something about him and need a clubhouse vibe leader.

On the block should be:

- Gausman

- Varsho

- Bieber

- Springer

- Sanchez

- Hoffman

Basically same as the 2024 deadline, anyone on their last year or last 1.5 yrs that teams might have an interest in. Whatever you can get for Bieber/Springer is better than nothing 

 

[glory]

Agreed about trading Clement (peak value, 31 next season, defense/sprint speed have slipped, 2 years of not-cheap-anymore arb left) but there's no chance in hell the Jays trade him. Based on this FO's history, they'll probably trade Gausman, Varsho, Bieber, and maybe Springer (10/5 guy and he's a DH that stinks this season so may not be much out there). Beyond that I'd be shocked if anyone else is moved unless there's a mandate to get under a CBT threshold or something. In which case maybe you see Hoffman, Sanchez, etc, moved. 

[Raineman73]

I am good with dealing a few pieces away, but if they go full firesale.....I am not sitting through another multi-year rebuild.  And there has to be some untouchables on this team, including Varland. All of the "last contract year" veterans should be dealt, but not much more past that. 

[Laika]

Here is the COPIUM you need on this depressing Monday. 

Perhaps this horrendous season is what Vladimir Guerrero Jr. finally needs in order to change his swing and approach? Maybe he will show up in the spring with more tilt and not such a stupidly steep bat bath. 

We can dream... 

[Stangstag]

3 hours ago, Laika said:

Here is the COPIUM you need on this depressing Monday. 

Perhaps this horrendous season is what Vladimir Guerrero Jr. finally needs in order to change his swing and approach? Maybe he will show up in the spring with more tilt and not such a stupidly steep bat bath. 

We can dream... 

doubt

Also wouldn’t be at all surprised if he lights the world on fire down the stretch after we sell and we’re out of it. 
 

 

[jaysblue]

Watch, the moment the Jays sell and wave the white flag on the season, Vladdy will suddenly go on an absolute tear in August and September.

It would be the most Jays thing ever - struggle when the games actually matter, then turn into prime Miguel Cabrera once the season is basically cooked.

[james jones]

1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

doubt

Also wouldn’t be at all surprised if he lights the world on fire down the stretch after we sell and we’re out of it. 
 

 

2024 Vladdy all over again?

[Eat My Shatkins]

Remember when 22 year old Vladdy had a 166 wRC+, 48 home runs and 6.3 fWAR?

Pepperidge farm remembers....

[jaysblue]

23 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Remember when 22 year old Vladdy had a 166 wRC+, 48 home runs and 6.3 fWAR?

Pepperidge farm remembers....

Those were the glory days. 

[Omar]

Looking at the schedule the Jays could easily lose the next ten consecutive series (including a makeup game with the Cubs).  They play the Royals in late August which you would expect them to represent.

We may be at the doorstep to one of the most horrendous stretches of baseball for the team in recent memory. 

Hope I'm wrong but....

[Stangstag]

1 hour ago, jaysblue said:

Watch, the moment the Jays sell and wave the white flag on the season, Vladdy will suddenly go on an absolute tear in August and September.

It would be the most Jays thing ever - struggle when the games actually matter, then turn into prime Miguel Cabrera once the season is basically cooked.

Its gonna be 2024 all over again lol

[Stangstag]

1 hour ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Remember when 22 year old Vladdy had a 166 wRC+, 48 home runs and 6.3 fWAR?

Pepperidge farm remembers....

When there was 0 pressure on the team to perform 

Definitely noticed this team since 2020 has cracked/failed when given big expectations, and they tend to do well when the eyes are off them and 0 expectations.