Jays Signing Cease 7 years 210M

[Perfect Game]

Great news to come home to. Imai is a Boras client as well so hopefully that'll help tilt the odds for us?

Can always trade Berrios if he's healthy. Can't wait to see what else Boss Atkins is cooking.

[G-Snarls]

Notice to NYY BOS TBR BAL:from the Toronto Blue Jays:

All offense in the rest of the division shall Cease immediately 

[Alejandro Murphy]

Congrats to Atkins for signing Cease

Giving credit where credit is due

 

Is there a possibility that they trade Berrios and Tiedmann for Skubal? Will Detroit listen or hang up the phone?

[Stangstag]

Holy s*** i picked a bad night to check out

[glory]

I know Cease's deal is deferred but I'm having a hard time seeing the Jays drop between $500-600M and losing 4 draft picks for Cease and Tucker. Maybe Boss Atkins took that Game 7 loss to heart and is going scorched earth but definitely feels like this is setting up a Bo reunion (or a trade) more than anything else.

[G-Snarls]

1 minute ago, Stangstag said:

Holy s*** i picked a bad night to check out

All good 

Now you have 6 pages to read through and enjoy :)

[G-Snarls]

Just now, glory said:

I know Cease's deal is deferred but I'm having a hard time seeing the Jays drop between $500-600M and losing 4 draft picks for Cease and Tucker. Maybe Boss Atkins took that Game 7 loss to heart and is going scorched earth but definitely feels like this is setting up a Bo reunion (or a trade) more than anything else.

I don't think I they're even after Tucker TBH

[BTS]

10 minutes ago, Alejandro Murphy said:

Congrats to Atkins for signing Cease

Giving credit where credit is due

 

Is there a possibility that they trade Berrios and Tiedmann for Skubal? Will Detroit listen or hang up the phone?

Hang up the phone 

[jaysblue]

Just read that Vladdy and Marte are cousin-in-laws. Interesting. 

[max silver]

14 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

I don't think I they're even after Tucker TBH

I think that Tucker is the preferred target on the position player side but Bo makes a lot of sense given the lack of draft pick and international free agent penalties. 

[BTS]

I feel like if you're making the decision to spend 300M+ on Tucker, the draft pick compensation isn't really going to weigh in to the decision in a meaningful way. Like, you've already decided that he's a) a great fit for the 2026 team b) someone you think will age well c) someone you don't have concerns about in the clubhouse d) someone who wants to play here and e) someone you're aligned with on contract demands.  If you're checking all those boxes and also adding like wins 94-98 or whatever, I don't see how losing picks in rounds 3 and 6 in the draft even moves the needle. 

[John_Havok]

6 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Just read that Vladdy and Marte are cousin-in-laws. Interesting. 

With Vlad Sr's propensity to procreate with multiple women (not judging) Vlad Jr is probably cousin or cousin-in-law to half the DR. 

[glory]

9 minutes ago, BTS said:

I feel like if you're making the decision to spend 300M+ on Tucker, the draft pick compensation isn't really going to weigh in to the decision in a meaningful way. Like, you've already decided that he's a) a great fit for the 2026 team b) someone you think will age well c) someone you don't have concerns about in the clubhouse d) someone who wants to play here and e) someone you're aligned with on contract demands.  If you're checking all those boxes and also adding like wins 94-98 or whatever, I don't see how losing picks in rounds 3 and 6 in the draft even moves the needle. 

If they signed Tucker and let Bo go, then they'd lose their 3rd and 6th round pick while gaining a pick after the 4th round. So I guess it would be just be losing one additional pick (3 picks total). Yeah it shouldn't be a deterrent if Tucker checks all their boxes, but I just have a hard time seeing $500-600M being spent on two players, especially after the Vlad contract. Maybe circumstances and mindsets have changed after the World Series appearance. My hunch is that they don't sign Tucker but who knows at this point. No one was putting Cease with the Jays prior to today. Most of social media and MLB reporters are engagement hounds who have to pump out content during the slowest time of the year and get engagement out of it. The Jays could do just about anything, and it probably will be something no one has brought up yet. 

[Ball4Life]

Ever read the comments on MLBTR? Wow.

[max silver]

9 minutes ago, glory said:

If they signed Tucker and let Bo go, then they'd lose their 3rd and 6th round pick while gaining a pick after the 4th round. So I guess it would be just be losing one additional pick (3 picks total). Yeah it shouldn't be a deterrent if Tucker checks all their boxes, but I just have a hard time seeing $500-600M being spent on two players, especially after the Vlad contract. Maybe circumstances and mindsets have changed after the World Series appearance. My hunch is that they don't sign Tucker but who knows at this point. No one was putting Cease with the Jays prior to today. Most of social media and MLB reporters are engagement hounds who have to pump out content during the slowest time of the year and get engagement out of it. The Jays could do just about anything, and it probably will be something no one has brought up yet. 

I don't think the total contract outlays are a huge deal provided the club can fit all of them under a yearly payroll allotment. I think this is a good offseason to load up a bit as Gausman and Springer's deals expire after 2026 and this gives the club a chance to acquire their long term replacements while running a higher payroll for a single season.

[Horses Fart]

Boy there is a s*** ton of negativity attached to this deal. So many people out there hatin. 

[glory]

14 minutes ago, max silver said:

I don't think the total contract outlays are a huge deal provided the club can fit all of them under a yearly payroll allotment. I think this is a good offseason to load up a bit as Gausman and Springer's deals expire after 2026 and this gives the club a chance to acquire their long term replacements while running a higher payroll for a single season.

Yeah honestly as long as the Jays are acquiring high end talent (4-5+ WAR types) in a year they figure to be high on the win curve, then you probably just worry about the payroll stuff later. Just add as much impact as possible.

[G-Snarls]

Full seasons of 

 

Gausman 

Yesavage 

Cease 

Bieber 

 

The strikeout totals could be insane 

[max silver]

4 minutes ago, glory said:

Yeah honestly as long as the Jays are acquiring high end talent (4-5+ WAR types) in a year they figure to be high on the win curve, then you probably just worry about the payroll stuff later. Just add as much impact as possible.

Absolutely. Rogers has stepped up big recently, including the Covid offseason where they still allowed the front office to add talent despite the uncertainty surrounding the sport. I believe there was an extra $30 million laying around in the couch cushions last offseason as the club was deep into negotiations with Pete Alonso as spring training was nearing so I think there should be plenty of wiggle room to continue adding impact players as the opportunity arises. I think it's just a perfect storm opportunity to add top tier talent given the current trajectory of the club and improving view point among the players and agents. 

[Jonn]

4 hours ago, Jays24 said:

We have no need for another starter. 

Gausman - Cease - Bieber - Yesavage - Berrios/Lauer.

Get a closer and one of Bo/Tucker (preferably Bo for me)

I’m just saying don’t be shocked if they sign another one. No guarantee they want Berrios back in the rotation after how last year ended. The option to eat money and move him is on the table.

[jmomcc]

I'd be ok missing on Tucker. Give me Bo on the smaller deal. 

Cease seems like a good deal to me. He's projected for 4 wins. Let's say he starts with that and regresses by half a win a year. That would leave you like $20 m short. That's fine and reasonable considering how durable he is. 

[Jays24]

12 minutes ago, Jonn said:

I’m just saying don’t be shocked if they sign another one. No guarantee they want Berrios back in the rotation after how last year ended. The option to eat money and move him is on the table.

The amount of money it would take to sign someone and then eat Berrios' deal, id rather use those resources on Bo or Tucker, a closer and an elite lefty.   

You can easily hope Berrios bounces back based on his track record.  People wanted to punt Springer last offseason but guys like them are who they are for a reason.  

[jmomcc]

The best case scenario with Berrios is that he 

- 1. Sees this next year as a contract year 

- 2. Gets back a tick of velo, maybe he was playing hurt

- 3. Takes the playoff snub as motivation to go to driveline or just to our pitching lab and work on his shapes. 
 

He's really not that old. If he threw up a 3 win year next year with better stuff, he could opt out and get less per year but a 4 year deal for a bigger amount. . 

[jmomcc]

The thing about Cease as well, he seems like he has a decently high floor. 
 

But could you get to more ceiling by just getting his fastball down to around 33%, his slider down to 33%, and helping him get comfortable with his other pitches to fill the rest. That could solve some of his home run problems on its own. 

[Jonn]

1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

The amount of money it would take to sign someone and then eat Berrios' deal, id rather use those resources on Bo or Tucker, a closer and an elite lefty.   

You can easily hope Berrios bounces back based on his track record.  People wanted to punt Springer last offseason but guys like them are who they are for a reason.  

With someone like Imai on the market it has to be tempting for them to want to build a super rotation. It will be interesting to see what happens. They definitely need to add a big bat but pitching wins.

[Jonn]

It should come as no surprise that the team that values putting the ball in play and grinding out at-bats has identified how valuable swing and miss is. All of a sudden with Yesavage and Cease in the mix you got an insane amount of swing and miss in your rotation. No contact is better than any form of contact.

[jmomcc]

If we did somehow trade berrios.. i'd like to get Ponce. He has tons of velo and should strike guys out. Could be in the pen for playoffs. 

[BringBackTheODog]

Unless they move Berrios I can't imagine they invest anymore in the rotation. I'm expecting Bo/Tucker and a bullpen piece. That probably costs you $40-50M. I'd be surprised if they move into the highest tax. 

[philly30]

3 hours ago, Horses Fart said:

Boy there is a s*** ton of negativity attached to this deal. So many people out there hatin. 

Insane contract for a guy that is not good anymore, why should anyone feel positive

[Eat My Shatkins]