Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[The_DH]

3 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

That was my original thought as well, then I went a saw how many starters they have down there already.

Still some health concerns on the list.  Right now I'd say Bieber and Berrios could be concerns.  

[The_DH]

Just now, Eat My Shatkins said:

At what point do the Jays have to make a decision on Bastardo? Since he's a rule 5 pick he has to be on the 26 man roster, but when is the deadline line for that? End of spring training?

He could go back to the 60 day list.  That could be done in February or so.  Probably makes sense if he isn't released first. 

[Spanky__99]

19 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

At what point do the Jays have to make a decision on Bastardo? Since he's a rule 5 pick he has to be on the 26 man roster, but when is the deadline line for that? End of spring training?

Yup.

[The_DH]

I think it's first day of spring training.

[Jonn]

1 hour ago, Terminator said:

When it comes to Yariel's contract status after the DFA

I mean I know lol. He doesn’t have enough service time to refuse outright assignment and elect free agency. It doesn’t get simpler than that. Anyone could have had him but nobody claimed him. Doesn’t matter what contract he signed he isn’t above the service time requirement. You just don’t see teams do this often.

[max silver]

1 hour ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

At what point do the Jays have to make a decision on Bastardo? Since he's a rule 5 pick he has to be on the 26 man roster, but when is the deadline line for that? End of spring training?

That's a good question. I recall that Bastardo is going to need to spend a minimum of 60 days on the active roster this season if the Blue Jays intend to keep him but I don't know if there's a specific start date to this.

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, max silver said:

That's a good question. I recall that Bastardo is going to need to spend a minimum of 60 days on the active roster this season if the Blue Jays intend to keep him but I don't know if there's a specific start date to this.

If he's healthy, he has to be added on opening day or returned to Boston for $50,000. Also, it's 90 days.

 

[Eat My Shatkins]

1 minute ago, Spanky__99 said:

If he's healthy, he has to be added on opening day or returned to Boston for 50,000.

It'll be interesting to see how his spring goes. He ever pitched a single inning in the AFL. I was looking forward to seeing how he did there. 

Hopefully he is healthy and ends up taking a bullpen spot as a flame throwing reliever. He was 93-96mph as a starter. Possible he could be 98mph+ as a reliever in short bursts.

[Jonn]

I would say the chances Bastardo is ever on the Blue Jays 26-man roster is less than 1%.

He would really have to look dominant in Spring. And coming off his injury I doubt that will happen.

[Eat My Shatkins]

I'm also interested to see what they do with Bowden Francis. Kind of feels like the best option would be to put him back as a reliever again and see if he can stick in that role.

Or maybe he just sucks. That 2-3 month stretch in 2024 was tantalizing though.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Just now, Jonn said:

I would say the chances Bastardo is ever on the Blue Jays 26-man roster is less than 1%.

He would really have to look dominant in Spring. And coming off his injury I doubt that will happen.

Yeah it's definitely the least likely option.

[John_Havok]

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

When it comes to Yariel's contract status after the DFA

There will be a little kicking...

[jmomcc]

18 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I'm also interested to see what they do with Bowden Francis. Kind of feels like the best option would be to put him back as a reliever again and see if he can stick in that role.

Or maybe he just sucks. That 2-3 month stretch in 2024 was tantalizing though.

He has an option so leave him as depth in triple a i think

[jmomcc]

On reddit people are saying there are rumours in korea that we are signing riley thompson. Starter depth or bullpen depth i'd guess. I kind of doubt it would be a major league deal. 

[Terminator]

7 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I'm also interested to see what they do with Bowden Francis. Kind of feels like the best option would be to put him back as a reliever again and see if he can stick in that role.

Or maybe he just sucks. That 2-3 month stretch in 2024 was tantalizing though.

He has one option left so I think he’s a starter in AAA. Instead of Easton Lucas, Spencer Turnbull and Jose Urethra we will have better depth down there next year with Francis, Yariel, etc. 

[jaysblue]

12 hours ago, Terminator said:

So I think he's now on Buffalo and can be called up one time. He doesn't have options (as Spanky pointed out he was an IFA and signed with options for 2024 only) so if he's DFA'd again, he can elect FA (even though he doesn't have 3 years service time).

So if I have this right, then this is a nifty little move. Either way, it frees up a 40-man spot and:

• If he gets claimed, then his money is off the books.
• If he doesn't get claimed, you can stash him in Buffalo for one call-up only. We could stretch him out and have him as a depth starter or he could be depth for the pen as well.

He wasn't claimed, so we are operating under bullet point #2. He's now some decent depth.

Big thanks to Term for making this all easy for us! He's not just a Sheriff but he's also a great teacher as well! 

 

[jaysblue]

Nice to have Yariel down in Buffalo as depth, even if at that salary. He can be stretched out again as a starter and come up either for rotation or BP help during the season. 

His numbers as a BP arm in the second half were garbage: 4.21 ERA, 4.93 FIP, 20 K's, 18 BB's across 25.2 innings. Definitely think he wasn't 100%. Hopefully he can tweak something where he becomes more consistent as a reliever. 

As a depth starter in Buffalo, you don't mind if he's given 10-15 starts during the regular season if there are injuries. Better than having arms like Urena, Lucas, or Turnball making those starts. 

[Laika]

Yeah huge upgrade on Turnbull etc.

He could go either way. Do they stretch him out and just have him as SP8 on the depth chart or do they adjust his stuff or mix and try the RP route again?

[R.O.]

Supposedly, the CBT is calculated at the end of the Baseball year.

So if the Jays bring up YR mid-season and then waive him, then another team picks him up, the Jays are not on the hook for his CBT charge.

And he is off the 40-man.  Good little piece of business, as we all know, every team looks for relievers during the season.

[JaysForever]

The whole Yariel episode tells me they are not going to let payroll get in the way of improving the team.

I don't think anyone has a clue on what their payroll ceiling is.

[jmomcc]

26 minutes ago, R.O. said:

Supposedly, the CBT is calculated at the end of the Baseball year.

So if the Jays bring up YR mid-season and then waive him, then another team picks him up, the Jays are not on the hook for his CBT charge.

And he is off the 40-man.  Good little piece of business, as we all know, every team looks for relievers during the season.

If they waive him, and another team doesn't pick him up, then they are on hook for his salary. 

This to me is obviously not a 'good' thing. They signed someone who is a net negative essentially. However, because we are a big market team it doesn't really affect us. 

[Terminator]

Saw some scuttle about the Jays being in on Riley Thompson. He’s a former fringe prospect who had a decent year in Korea.

Could be another opportunity to add some depth by taking advantage of his IFA status. It’s really hard to add depth guys with options during the offseason but you will need them when the season starts.

[BTS]

Rodriguez was good enough last year that there they they could have easily saved face by keeping on the 40-man (and 26-man for that matter). But it's obviously more valuable to the team to have him off the roster and providing depth in AAA. He's probably the 8th or 9th best SP on the team and 7th or 8th best RP (with more RP additions coming), but that can and will change when guys get hurt this season, and he'll be there able to fill in with innings that might be above replacement level. 

There are probably fewer than 5 orgs that DFA him in this situation. This team is serious about winning. 

[Jimcanuck]

1 hour ago, R.O. said:

Supposedly, the CBT is calculated at the end of the Baseball year.

So if the Jays bring up YR mid-season and then waive him, then another team picks him up, the Jays are not on the hook for his CBT charge.

And he is off the 40-man.  Good little piece of business, as we all know, every team looks for relievers during the season.

I think in this scenario for the half season before another team picks him up, half his salary (or however it gets divided) counts against the Jays CBT.

[Jonn]

Blue Jays front office have made it clear they will no longer accept mediocrity. It's why they booted Berrios out of the rotation and replaced him before even moving him. They lost all confidence in Y-Rod who was great in the first half but was terrible down the strech and in the playoffs so now he will be working his way back from Buffalo regardless of what he makes.

I love this new approach. Instead of letting bad contracts rot on your roster you flex your financial muscles and kick them to the curb until they get their s*** together. Absolute power move.

[Jimcanuck]

3 hours ago, Jonn said:

Blue Jays front office have made it clear they will no longer accept mediocrity. It's why they booted Berrios out of the rotation and replaced him before even moving him. They lost all confidence in Y-Rod who was great in the first half but was terrible down the strech and in the playoffs so now he will be working his way back from Buffalo regardless of what he makes.

I love this new approach. Instead of letting bad contracts rot on your roster you flex your financial muscles and kick them to the curb until they get their s*** together. Absolute power move.

Are we sure.  This could be just off season roster management machinations, and YR is on the team out of ST.

But probably for reasons of suckage per your post.

[Laika]

	Clement	Schneider
Career Split (%)	8.04%	-3.10%
PA career v LHP	462	320
Regressed platoon split	6.44%	4.94%
Proj wOBA	0.311	0.319
Proj split v LHP	0.324	0.330
Proj split v RHP	0.304	0.314

 

 

Mint defender vs statue so you would never pick DS over EC because of splits. 

[Brownie19]

Laika - does that factor in that historically, DS has been sheltered in the type of RHP's he faces?

[Orgfiller]

12 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Laika - does that factor in that historically, DS has been sheltered in the type of RHP's he faces?

It would not. That's a harder thing to account for, and if you do try to account for it you might lose the generalization of the projection. Like yes I'm sure you can project DS to do worse against RHP with 95+ fastballs, but the sample size will be smaller and there might be some sampling bias involved, i.e. he might be just as good vs them as any other RHP but the team specifically chooses to hide him against them because they think he's not as good.

[Laika]

20 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Laika - does that factor in that historically, DS has been sheltered in the type of RHP's he faces?

Nope.