Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2025 Posted December 2, 2025 2 hours ago, glory said: From BNS: Honestly looking at what's left of the RP market, it wouldn't be the worst pivot to add another SP instead. It would create a glut of SPs but that's never been a bad problem to have. Fairbanks, Suarez, Keller, etc, all feel pretty underwhelming to me depending on the cost. Unless the Jays can get a guy like Fairbanks on a short 2 year deal at a palatable cost, RP may be best added in season through trade or from in-house (specifically looking at Tiedemann).
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 3 hours ago, Brownie19 said: It would be bananas (B-A-N-A-N-A-S) if the Jays signed another starter like King. Someone is going to give Ponce a guaranteed roster spot. I don't see us landing either to be honest. If we do add another - I would bet it's Bassitt. This did not age well... Jays24, abola2121 and Stangstag 1 2
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 1 minute ago, Brownie19 said: This did not age well... Now just gotta wait for Jim to eat his words about us not signing Bo or Tucker
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 7 minutes ago, Stangstag said: Now just gotta wait for Jim to eat his words about us not signing Bo or Tucker I never said that
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 6 hours ago, jmomcc said: Of all those i'd sign Ponce selling him on swingman to start. And then rogers seems like great value. Nice lol
The_DH Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 The trade capital is building: I'd say we can offer up Berrios, Rodriguez and Santander. Can't wait to see what the next move will be. I'm hoping for a closer. A real K expert.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 11 minutes ago, The_DH said: The trade capital is building: I'd say we can offer up Berrios, Rodriguez and Santander. Can't wait to see what the next move will be. I'm hoping for a closer. A real K expert. Those 3 guys are worthless as trade fodder. Jays would have to send cash and lots of it. Brownie19 1
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 Atkins has solidified the starting rotation for 2026 and 2027 already Well done
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 Best hope for Berrios is you trade him for a bad bat contract like Oneill or Yoshida Don't see it happening
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 1 minute ago, Laika said: Best hope for Berrios is you trade him for a bad bat contract like Oneill or Yoshida Don't see it happening Or you include him with cash and prospects for Ketel
The_DH Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 I definitely see Rodriguez as the most likely to go. I'd love to know the behind the scenes situation with Berrios and Santander. The real facts could be interesting.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 3, 2025 Author Posted December 3, 2025 4 minutes ago, The_DH said: I definitely see Rodriguez as the most likely to go. I'd love to know the behind the scenes situation with Berrios and Santander. The real facts could be interesting. If the team can find someone willing to take on Rodriguez's full contract, they should let him go. 3 more years at a 6.4M cap hit is too much for what he brings. He's basically the mop-up guy right now: he's not good enough to start games or pitch in high leverage spots, and Lauer and Berrios are both ahead of him on the swing-man depth chart.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 Yariel from 2026-28 makes $5M, $6M, and $6.5M (player option) respectively. It's actually not as bad as I thought it was, so maybe he could be moved without having to eat up money. I can't imagine he has any value though as far as getting anything back even if you could find a team willing to take that money. Berrios and Santander are likely unmovable without having to eat up a ton of the contract. With that said, something feels off about Santander to me as far as his fit on the team. Are the Jays, a team so obsessed with defense that they absorbed $100M of Gimenez/Straw, really going to have him play everyday in the OF? I'm sure they signed him expecting him to be the DH with Springer in the OF, but Springer has thrived in the DH spot, so it would be foolish to make a change there. Maybe they just stick with him in the OF and live with the consequences.
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 Could we get an optionable reliever with good stuff and some deep cut prospects for Lauer? He could be a 5th starter on a bad team. i'd be happy to unload rodrquez but i'd keep berrios. Spanky__99 1
The_DH Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 3 minutes ago, BTS said: If the team can find someone willing to take on Rodriguez's full contract, they should let him go. 3 more years at a 6.4M cap hit is too much for what he brings. He's basically the mop-up guy right now: he's not good enough to start games or pitch in high leverage spots, and Lauer and Berrios are both ahead of him on the swing-man depth chart. If I remember his contract, all we have to do is option him and he's a free agent.
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 5 minutes ago, The_DH said: If I remember his contract, all we have to do is option him and he's a free agent. No, he has three years left
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 13 minutes ago, BTS said: If the team can find someone willing to take on Rodriguez's full contract, they should let him go. 3 more years at a 6.4M cap hit is too much for what he brings. He's basically the mop-up guy right now: he's not good enough to start games or pitch in high leverage spots, and Lauer and Berrios are both ahead of him on the swing-man depth chart. I think YRod was a pretty effective leverage arm for most of the season but maybe ran out of gas towards the end of the year. Spanky__99 1
The_DH Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 7 minutes ago, jmomcc said: No, he has three years left Yes I know he has 3 years but I think if the team options him then he can declare free agency or something like that.
Sasky05 Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 13 minutes ago, jmomcc said: Could we get an optionable reliever with good stuff and some deep cut prospects for Lauer? He could be a 5th starter on a bad team. i'd be happy to unload rodrquez but i'd keep berrios. Lauer was arguably one of our best pitchers during the regular season last year. He was great as a starter with a sub-3 era, you know many guys like that? He was also excellent as a reliever, there's NO FROCKIN way I trade him unless it's a deal for Kelte or equivalent. Lauer has tremendous value.
Sasky05 Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 I know there's been concern raised over our minors depth. But I think Loperfido and Tiedeman packaged together could get us a good return. We also have several decent arms if we had a deal good enough to add if necessary.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 On 11/30/2025 at 12:39 PM, Jimcanuck said: With the current payroll level, Bo or Tucker or Belly is quite unlikely. Ha-Seong Kim, Bassitt (swingman role), and Fairbanks are more realistic, and all are great fits. ???
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 19 minutes ago, Sasky05 said: Lauer was arguably one of our best pitchers during the regular season last year. He was great as a starter with a sub-3 era, you know many guys like that? He was also excellent as a reliever, there's NO FROCKIN way I trade him unless it's a deal for Kelte or equivalent. Lauer has tremendous value. I really don't think any front office would see hIm as anything other than a 5th starter on a bad team. Yes, that's not fair but i think its accurate. we also just have too relievers without options. also, if you want to be a big payroll team and have a good farm.. this is kind of how you do it. You sign someone in fa, and then trade the depth below.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 Will anybody be that surprised if Ross the Boss signs Tucker and then packages Berrios, Taters, cash and a couple of our top 5 prospects for Marte?
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 7 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said: Will anybody be that surprised if Ross the Boss signs Tucker and then packages Berrios, Taters, cash and a couple of our top 5 prospects for Marte? Honestly, no I wouldn’t. I kinda EXPECT 1 more big move before the start of spring training (Bo/Tucker/Marte) but wouldn’t be shocked with 2 big moves.
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 27 minutes ago, Sasky05 said: I know there's been concern raised over our minors depth. But I think Loperfido and Tiedeman packaged together could get us a good return. We also have several decent arms if we had a deal good enough to add if necessary. I think i'd keep tieddeman. He won't have the innings to start this year but he could be the leverage lefty reliever we need. abola2121 1
The_DH Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 6 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said: Will anybody be that surprised if Ross the Boss signs Tucker and then packages Berrios, Taters, cash and a couple of our top 5 prospects for Marte? Something like that would make some sense. But I gotta admit, the Bieber thing where he didn't opt makes me wonder if he's not so sure about his health. Makes keeping Berrios an idea.
jmomcc Verified Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 9 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said: Will anybody be that surprised if Ross the Boss signs Tucker and then packages Berrios, Taters, cash and a couple of our top 5 prospects for Marte? Just looking at marte's contract, there is a LOT of surplus value. So you'd need to pay most of berrios' contract to just add our two best prospects not named yesavage.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 3, 2025 Posted December 3, 2025 13 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said: Will anybody be that surprised if Ross the Boss signs Tucker and then packages Berrios, Taters, cash and a couple of our top 5 prospects for Marte? I would be completely surprised if the Blue Jays managed to ship out a couple of bad value contracts for a cost controlled superstar. Spanky__99 and Brownie19 2
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