Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[glory]

Yeah I’d trade top prospects for Tatis without hesitating. I just don’t see a fit as the Padres would almost certainly prefer big league players coming back and the Jays don’t really have any expendable ones that the Padres would want. Barger wouldn’t be enough as a centerpiece.

Byron Buxton is potentially available as well now (he’s apparently willing to waive his NTC if the Twins keep tanking). Probably not the best fit for the Jays since he’d likely need to DH a bit to keep him healthy but an impact bat with a $15M CBT hit and the ability to play CF is very attractive.

[Olerud363.354]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Schreck, Pinango, Leo Jimenez, and Kasevich are all in good positions to get a chance if there are injuries or flops ahead of them 

Are any of these guys fast?   The world series where we lose by an inch in game 7 at homeplate won't happen again, but close and extra inning games in playoffs likely will.  

 

[Terminator]

2 hours ago, Pendleton said:

Is RJ Schreck perhaps a sleeper candidate to contribute to the 2026 roster? He has hit and produced big OBP numbers at each level. It's also interesting to note that upon being moved up to AAA in early June, he actually spent slightly more time in CF than anywhere else. 23 AAA starts in CF, 21 in RF, 4 in LF and 6 in the DH spot. If he can passably hack it in center, obviously that hugely increases his utility. He looks like a hitter 

He’s a Buffalo Boy for sure and sometimes those guys pan out 

[Orgfiller]

2 hours ago, Pendleton said:

Is RJ Schreck perhaps a sleeper candidate to contribute to the 2026 roster? He has hit and produced big OBP numbers at each level. It's also interesting to note that upon being moved up to AAA in early June, he actually spent slightly more time in CF than anywhere else. 23 AAA starts in CF, 21 in RF, 4 in LF and 6 in the DH spot. If he can passably hack it in center, obviously that hugely increases his utility. He looks like a hitter 

Ross Atkins is just waiting for him to become old enough to be considered a non prospect and that's when his trap card activates. +15 contact from grit and grind, +20 clutch from feel good stories, +10 defense from being a team player, -5 baserunning from being in Jays org for too long.

Schreck turns 26 in mid July, look for him to be getting steam around then.

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, BTS said:

Tatis is a very attractive asset. Superstar talent entering his age-27 season and locked up for 9 more years at a 24.1M lluxury tax hit. Tucker is a couple years older, and you're probably talking like 10M more a year on the tax hit. 

It's almost impossible to overpay for Tatis in terms of prospect capital. 

I think the Tatis rumour is horseshit, TBH.

[Laika]

1 hour ago, Spanky__99 said:

I think the Tatis rumour is horseshit, TBH.

Well, probably but you never know when it comes to money. If the owner is putting the squeeze on them there aren't many other options. 

Machado and Boogers and Cronenworth and Musgrove and Darvish are all not tradeable. Merrill is cheap until 2030. 

The Padres have just been treading water and performing as less than the sum of their parts for a while. Since they got decent, they have never won the division, made the world series, or won 94+ games. 6 years and counting. Very similar to the Blue Jays pre-2025 actually. 

[L54]

3 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

The "fit" works well if Springer isn't brought back after next year (which would make me sad).  From everything I've heard, he brings great leadership to the clubhouse as well, which shouldn't be understated.

He was quite consistent and solid the 3 seasons prior to joining the Jays.  He was hurt for most of the season - he deserves a mulligan for sure.

Ya the fit is fine next year but I was referring to this season 

[Terminator]

2012 Marlins-style trade, only this time it's the Padres.

We unload a couple of bad contracts, throw in some cheap MLB pieces to help them “stay competitive,” give them $25M in AAV relief, and top it off with one prospect.

• Berrios 18.7
• Taters 13.7
• Lauer 4.4
• Schneider
• Nance
• Loperfido
• 1 prospect

for

• Tatis 24.3
• Bogaerts 25.5
• Darvish 18

 

[Terminator]

Just now, Terminator said:

2012 Marlins-style trade, only this time it's the Padres.

We unload a couple of bad contracts, throw in some cheap MLB pieces to help them “stay competitive,” give them $25M in AAV relief, and top it off with one prospect.

• Berrios 18.7
• Taters 13.7
• Lauer 4.4
• Schneider
• Nance
• Loperfido
• 1 prospect

for

• Tatis 24.3
• Bogaerts 25.5
• Darvish 18

 

Someone take my coffee away

[Omar]

Based on the regular season I could see why Vogt got the nod.  Not a bad choice.

[Omar]

7 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Someone take my coffee away

You were concerned about the Jays turning into the Padres when I said to sign both Tucker and Bo.  Now you literally want to import the Padres! 🤪

[Terminator]

42 minutes ago, Laika said:

Well, probably but you never know when it comes to money. If the owner is putting the squeeze on them there aren't many other options. 

Machado and Boogers and Cronenworth and Musgrove and Darvish are all not tradeable. Merrill is cheap until 2030. 

The Padres have just been treading water and performing as less than the sum of their parts for a while. Since they got decent, they have never won the division, made the world series, or won 94+ games. 6 years and counting. Very similar to the Blue Jays pre-2025 actually. 

They are such a mess.

• Losing Cease, King, Arraez and O'Hearn.
• Black holes at 1B and DH with zero bench.
• Rotation has Pivetta and Musgrove (coming off TJS) and that's about it until they move Mason Miller here out of desperation.
• Bullpen is good but top heavy, like the rest of the team.
• Nothing in the upper minors that can really help.

I can see why they might move Mason Miller to the rotation. But that's dangerous as he only threw 60 innings last year and they'll be desperate for him to soak up as many as possible. 

[Orgfiller]

29 minutes ago, Terminator said:

2012 Marlins-style trade, only this time it's the Padres.

We unload a couple of bad contracts, throw in some cheap MLB pieces to help them “stay competitive,” give them $25M in AAV relief, and top it off with one prospect.

• Berrios 18.7
• Taters 13.7
• Lauer 4.4
• Schneider
• Nance
• Loperfido
• 1 prospect

for

• Tatis 24.3
• Bogaerts 25.5
• Darvish 18

 

This feels worse than just sending back $50M in straight cash to the Padres along with a couple of prospects lol. Having to pay Bogaerts until 2033 and a rehabbing old Darvish until 2028 is so gross lol.

If you play the salary dump game you're gonna have a bad time. It would kill our tax bill and depth. I'd only consider eating the Darvish contract and even then it kills our financial flexibility. Rogers will spend but not outrageously so.

[Laika]

Jays lose Hunter Mense, assistant hitting coach since 2022. Going to SFG. 

Might be a sneaky bad loss. You never know with coaches. 

[abola2121]

22 minutes ago, Laika said:

Jays lose Hunter Mense, assistant hitting coach since 2022. Going to SFG. 

Might be a sneaky bad loss. You never know with coaches. 

You don't think Popkins' influence had something to do with this?

[Orgfiller]

35 minutes ago, Laika said:

Jays lose Hunter Mense, assistant hitting coach since 2022. Going to SFG. 

Might be a sneaky bad loss. You never know with coaches. 

Is he becoming their hitting coach? If so makes sense that he would leave/they would let him. Mense seemed to be close with a number of the players like Davis Schneider, you always saw them together during the celebrations. Hopefully we bring in another young forward thinking guy who's up with the times.

[Stangstag]

18 hours ago, Jonn said:

I'm more annoyed with the gold gloves. I don't know Ernie is nominated for 2 and doesn't get either. How does that even make sense. Kirk also deserved to not only win the Catcher Gold Glove but you could make the case for the Platinum.

Its the same s*** w Varsho in 2023. Voters feel he doesn't have enough innings at 1 position to win for that, but he also can't win Utility because apparently thats reserved for players that play at least 1 INF and 1 OF position regularly.

[Terminator]

50 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

This feels worse than just sending back $50M in straight cash to the Padres along with a couple of prospects lol. Having to pay Bogaerts until 2033 and a rehabbing old Darvish until 2028 is so gross lol.

If you play the salary dump game you're gonna have a bad time. It would kill our tax bill and depth. I'd only consider eating the Darvish contract and even then it kills our financial flexibility. Rogers will spend but not outrageously so.

Oh certainly. I was just shooting from the hip because I saw posts about trading for Tatis Jr.

But in a vacuum I would take on Bogaerts and Darvish if it meant getting Tatis, as crazy at it sounds.

It probably wouldn't work for the Jays because we are already pretty close to the threshholds and need to allocate resources to SP instead of putting all of our chips into one star player. But Tatis is only owed 9 years and 218 million. If he hit the open market what would he get? He was Fangraphs #15 most valuable trade asset so he's got a lot of surplus on that contract still.

If you add Bogaerts (holy crap he still has 8 years, 203M left) and Darvish (3 years, 54M) you probably still come out ahead over what Tatis gets in FA as it would be a 475M total commitment. Plus you get whatever Bogaerts (a 3 WAR player for now) and Darvish (maybe a serviceable back end guy the final 2 years) give you.

[Stangstag]

42 minutes ago, Laika said:

Jays lose Hunter Mense, assistant hitting coach since 2022. Going to SFG. 

Might be a sneaky bad loss. You never know with coaches. 

Sheeeeit

[hanton]

41 minutes ago, Laika said:

Jays lose Hunter Mense, assistant hitting coach since 2022. Going to SFG. 

Might be a sneaky bad loss. You never know with coaches. 

doubt it's a bad loss, he's probably irrelevant because of Popkins and Iannotti - similar to Mattingly leaving

 

[Terminator]

1 hour ago, Omar said:

You were concerned about the Jays turning into the Padres when I said to sign both Tucker and Bo.  Now you literally want to import the Padres! 🤪

I didn't dump that much cold water on you yesterday!

But if we are playing in fantasy land I don't see the difference between signing Bo and Tucker or a megatrade with the Padres.

Tucker and Bo are going to be more expensive, and will probably provide less WAR, than Tatis, Bogaerts and Darvish over the course of their currents contracts. Tatis is just that good on a 9 year 218M dollar deal.

[Laika]

Feel bad for Xander Bogaerts sometimes

I hate when a bad contract makes people hate a good player

He has given SDP 9.8 fWAR in three seasons. It could be worse!

[Olerud363.354]

25 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Oh certainly. I was just shooting from the hip because I saw posts about trading for Tatis Jr.

But in a vacuum I would take on Bogaerts and Darvish if it meant getting Tatis, as crazy at it sounds.

Like the idea of using financial advantages in creative ways.    Got to be some matches where team can take on good contract + bad contract that is equivalent to what you'd pay in free agency. 

[Alejandro Murphy]

How’s everybody?

 

I hope you all recovered but for me, the lingering pain sometimes seeing online WS highlights 

 

anyway, excited for the new additions.  Hopefully Mr. Atkins and the Jays organization can continue their winning ways and wishing a different result and ultimate success next season.

 

Read that Hunter Mense going West side to join his friend.  Hard to lose a vital cog of that hitting coaching magicians.  All the best to him.

 

Go Jays !

 

 

[Olerud363.354]

2 hours ago, Terminator said:

2012 Marlins-style trade, only this time it's the Padres.

Might have to give away Nimmala in that type of trade.  Kind of similar to Marisnick in a way.  Real toolsy guy who hadn't quite hit really well yet.  

Wow that was a weird trade looking back on it.   Yunel Escobar and Jose Reyes were about the same age and actually similar hitters, but Yunel coming off of a down season and non-woke eye black.   Reyes was faster Yunel was a better defender and cheaper.   

I think the entire trade sucked from Blue Jays perspective in retrospect.   

[Olerud363.354]

5 minutes ago, Alejandro Murphy said:

How’s everybody?

I made the mistake of looking at IKFs sprint speed (27 or so 47th percentile) then got thinking would the Jays have won with Cavan Biggio?  Biggio has 80th percentile sprint speed (butterfly effect, I know, Biggio high fives some guy different than IKF would have and everything after that is different... but still) 

[bronson44]

41 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Might have to give away Nimmala in that type of trade.  Kind of similar to Marisnick in a way.  Real toolsy guy who hadn't quite hit really well yet.  

Wow that was a weird trade looking back on it.   Yunel Escobar and Jose Reyes were about the same age and actually similar hitters, but Yunel coming off of a down season and non-woke eye black.   Reyes was faster Yunel was a better defender and cheaper.   

I think the entire trade sucked from Blue Jays perspective in retrospect.   

What was that again? Gay slur in Spanish on the eye black?

[G-Snarls]

2 minutes ago, bronson44 said:

What was that again? Gay slur in Spanish on the eye black?

[SeranthonySantander]

46 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I made the mistake of looking at IKFs sprint speed (27 or so 47th percentile) then got thinking would the Jays have won with Cavan Biggio?  Biggio has 80th percentile sprint speed (butterfly effect, I know, Biggio high fives some guy different than IKF would have and everything after that is different... but still) 

Dodgers are saying we lost because clement celebrated an insurance run.  Not IKF’s fault.

[Angrioter]

6 hours ago, BTS said:

Tatis is a very attractive asset. Superstar talent entering his age-27 season and locked up for 9 more years at a 24.1M lluxury tax hit. Tucker is a couple years older, and you're probably talking like 10M more a year on the tax hit. 

It's almost impossible to overpay for Tatis in terms of prospect capital. 

Tatis Jr, at just 27 years old, already has seven children with different mothers.

Tatis is not a good role model for Vladdy or the other young Jays players.