Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[SeranthonySantander]

The Varland window is 5 more years right?  5 years to get it done Atkins.

[Eat My Shatkins]

I now he'd never do it, but I'd love to see Bassitt back as a reliever haha. He was nails in that role this post season, game 7 home run not withstanding.

Love Sherzer and Bassitt, but I hope to see much higher ceiling options brought in to fill out the rotation.

Still not sure what to make of Bieber. He was pretty good, but not "ace" good. Certainly wouldn't be upset if they got him extended though, say 3-4 x $25 million or so?

I mean I guess a dream off season could be...

 

1. Trade for Skubal and extend

2. Extend Bieber 3-4 x $25 million

3. Extend Bo to a Adames type deal and move him to 2B

 

That way you can keep Lauer in the pen as a multi inning guy and 6th starter.

Move Francis back into a reliever role

Bastardo, if he's good can start out as a reliever on the MLB roster so you don't lose him

 

SP 1 - Skubal

SP 2 - Bieber

SP 3 - Gausman

SP 4  - Yesavage

SP 5 - Berrios

 

CL - Hoffman

SU - Yimi

SU - Varland

LR  - Lauer

 

Build the rest of the pen from Flu, Little, Fisher, Rodriguez, Bastardo, Francis, Nance, Burr, Sandlin, Bruihl, Tate, Jennings, etc

[BTS]

9 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I now he'd never do it, but I'd love to see Bassitt back as a reliever haha. He was nails in that role this post season, game 7 home run not withstanding.

Love Sherzer and Bassitt, but I hope to see much higher ceiling options brought in to fill out the rotation.

Still not sure what to make of Bieber. He was pretty good, but not "ace" good. Certainly wouldn't be upset if they got him extended though, say 3-4 x $25 million or so?

I mean I guess a dream off season could be...

 

1. Trade for Skubal and extend

2. Extend Bieber 3-4 x $25 million

3. Extend Bo to a Adames type deal and move him to 2B

 

That way you can keep Lauer in the pen as a multi inning guy and 6th starter.

Move Francis back into a reliever role

Bastardo, if he's good can start out as a reliever on the MLB roster so you don't lose him

 

SP 1 - Skubal

SP 2 - Bieber

SP 3 - Gausman

SP 4  - Yesavage

SP 5 - Berrios

 

CL - Hoffman

SU - Yimi

SU - Varland

LR  - Lauer

 

Build the rest of the pen from Flu, Little, Fisher, Rodriguez, Bastardo, Francis, Nance, Burr, Sandlin, Bruihl, Tate, Jennings, etc

That team would cost about 320M. It would also be the best team in baseball.

[Stangstag]

25 minutes ago, bluejaysinternNo5 said:

Hopefully Barger can take a starting role and run with it. Bold prediction: He hits 40 HR next year.

Need Vladdy to hit more homers next year too. He had 23 in 156 games, then 8 in 18 postseason games. The ability is there.

Santander should be good for 30+ homers. I would expect Springer to regress majorly, probably wont see another good offensive season from him again.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Just now, BTS said:

That team would cost about 320M. It would also be the best team in baseball.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how far they will go with the payroll.

 

Honestly, I would be more than happy with just two out of three of Skubal / Bieber / Bo. And literally any two of the three. I think the offense can survive without Bo if they won't push the payroll that high.

[jmomcc]

I don't think bieber is getting 25 per. 

[BTS]

1 minute ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how far they will go with the payroll.

 

Honestly, I would be more than happy with just two out of three of Skubal / Bieber / Bo. And literally any two of the three. I think the offense can survive without Bo if they won't push the payroll that high.

Two of those would be great. But even if payroll comes in at ~265 again and they let Bo walk, I think they could have a very good offseason with 40M or whatever they'd have to spend:

25M for one of the good SPs

Trade for Brandon Lowe for 2B (11.5M)

Give Danny Coulombe whatever's left over to add another LHP in the pen if Little is permanently shellshocked

 

 

[hanton]

Michael King declined his mutual option, I'd rather go for King than extend Bieber, signing King would cost us a compensatory pick after the fourth-round in the 2026 draft assuming the Padres qualify him.

I wonder if Bieber picks up the option?

[BTS]

Just now, hanton said:

Michael King declined his mutual option, I'd rather go for King than extend Bieber, signing King would cost us a compensatory pick after the fourth-round in the 2026 draft assuming the Padres qualify him.

I wonder if Bieber picks up the option?

I keep looking at King and have no idea what to think:

- Stuff+ 96 in 2024 and 99 in 2025

- velo down 1-2 ticks from his NYY days, sitting a hair under 94

- missed over two months with a shoulder issue mid-season, and has a pretty long injury history

- he'll have a comp pick attached

Is he looking for a long-term deal? A 1-year pillow contract while aiming for a healthy season and to re-enter the market with no comp pick attached? 

 

 

 

[hanton]

4 minutes ago, BTS said:

I keep looking at King and have no idea what to think:

- Stuff+ 96 in 2024 and 99 in 2025

- velo down 1-2 ticks from his NYY days, sitting a hair under 94

- missed over two months with a shoulder issue mid-season, and has a pretty long injury history

- he'll have a comp pick attached

Is he looking for a long-term deal? A 1-year pillow contract while aiming for a healthy season and to re-enter the market with no comp pick attached? 

 

 

 

If it was a shoulder issue (I jjsut don't remember) then I'd be cautious as well and the decline is an issue but I'm not sure you can survive as a starter anymore with a FB in the low 90's - eg. Bieber.  So it's why I brought up King

[SeranthonySantander]

50 minutes ago, BTS said:

That team would cost about 320M. It would also be the best team in baseball.

Rogers owes it to us.  Like I said we gotta play dodger ball. 

[jmomcc]

I don't think we can trade for Skubal, we just don't have the bullets. The yankees, dodgers and red sox have better prospects and the red sox could include Duran. 

[Olerud363.354]

1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

Need Vladdy to hit more homers next year too. He had 23 in 156 games, then 8 in 18 postseason games. The ability is there.

Santander should be good for 30+ homers. I would expect Springer to regress majorly, probably wont see another good offensive season from him again.

Vlad has another level that could be unlocked.  Gotta hope it happens.  Satander could replace some of Springer's production.  

 

[SeranthonySantander]

32 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

I don't think we can trade for Skubal, we just don't have the bullets. The yankees, dodgers and red sox have better prospects and the red sox could include Duran. 

Yea we don’t really.  But the Yankees don’t really need him, they have a good rotation if Cole is fine.  They need to put resources elsewhere.

He would be great for the red Sox but they are crying poor recently, they are going to need all their prospects.  Their lineup kind of sucks too, even with Anthony they need to spend money elsewhere.

[Eat My Shatkins]

EFF me. The Red Sox with Crochet/Skubal? The Yankees with Cole/Skubal/Fried/Rodon/Schlittler?

Please don't let either of those happen.

[Eat My Shatkins]

How good do we think Barger is going to be next year?

Dude struggled hard the last couple months of the season but then demolished the post season like a stud against some of the best pitching on the planet.

We looking at 35 bombs, 130 wRC+ and 3.5 fWAR season incoming?

[Scionz]

2 hours ago, philly30 said:

Scherzer does not have much left, must be better options

There is more to Scherzer than what he produces, his intangibles in the locker room mean alot as demonstrated by every single players comments about him. If he will re-sign for cheap I bring him back without hesitation.

[Abomination]

7 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

How good do we think Barger is going to be next year?

Dude struggled hard the last couple months of the season but then demolished the post season like a stud against some of the best pitching on the planet.

We looking at 35 bombs, 130 wRC+ and 3.5 fWAR season incoming?

No way to know. It's not at all unusual for a young player to burst onto the scene, then struggle when the league starts to figure them out. Maybe the playoffs were Barger readjusting or maybe it was just small sample size variance. The fact he was hitting lefties well too was very encouraging though.

[jmomcc]

19 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

How good do we think Barger is going to be next year?

Dude struggled hard the last couple months of the season but then demolished the post season like a stud against some of the best pitching on the planet.

We looking at 35 bombs, 130 wRC+ and 3.5 fWAR season incoming?

There was an adjustment apparently that could explain the improvement. 

[glory]

There will be a bunch of SP options in FA and trade, but it's harder to see where the Jays pivot to if Bichette leaves. I doubt they'll be in on Schwarber with Tony locked up for a while, and Tucker/Bellinger are likely going to go above their comfort level. Who else is there? The super obvious trade candidate, and I'd actually bet on this happening if Bo leaves given how Ross operates, is Steven Kwan. He has the skill set that the Jays salivate over. If Ketel Marte becomes available then he would be another one that makes sense. Re-signing Bo is probably the best way to proceed here, especially if there's mutual interest and he's open to 2B. Not sure a long term deal for Bo will age practically well, but you have to add short term wins wherever you can this winter. 

[Olerud363.354]

1 hour ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

We looking at 35 bombs, 130 wRC+ and 3.5 fWAR season incoming?

His plate discipline looked great in the post season.  I wonder if he could be a left handed Josh Donaldson.  I think his defensive metrics were better at third despite the crazy throws from right field. 

[abola2121]

3 hours ago, jmomcc said:

I don't think we can trade for Skubal, we just don't have the bullets. The yankees, dodgers and red sox have better prospects and the red sox could include Duran. 

Forget Skubal, the FO should make a serious effort to sign Imai instead. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

34 minutes ago, abola2121 said:

Forget Skubal, the FO should make a serious effort to sign Imai instead. 

You know they absolutely will, but these little pricks never pick us.

He'll probably end up on either the Yankees, Mets or a Cali team.

[Jonn]

Clement nominated for 2 Gold Gloves and doesn’t win either of them. Makes sense…

Also Marcus Semien somehow beat out Giminez at Second Base.

[max silver]

7 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Clement nominated for 2 Gold Gloves and doesn’t win either of them. Makes sense…

Also Marcus Semien somehow beat out Giminez at Second Base.

The big surprise for me was that Kirk didn't win a gold glove, he lead the winner by 3 DRS and 10 FRV yet didn't win. 

[G-Snarls]

6 hours ago, Stangstag said:

Need Vladdy to hit more homers next year too. He had 23 in 156 games, then 8 in 18 postseason games. The ability is there.

Santander should be good for 30+ homers. I would expect Springer to regress majorly, probably wont see another good offensive season from him again.

Yeah I think all of 

Vladdy 

Santander 

Barger 

Could hit 30+ HR

Nobody else will but that would be nice 

[Governator]

Bring back Bo, stick him at 2nd and call it a day. Replacing his production for our type of line up isn't as easy as just sort free agents by wRC+ and roll the dice.  I want the league's best at getting hits for when it matters most.

[bronson44]

If we don't bring back Bo it's just going to make me hate the Santander contract even more. All of that money could have gone towards a Bo contract.

[Jonn]

Bo has already sent he wants to be here. So as long as the money is right it should be a done deal. He didn't have to say anything about his future after last nights game but did. So get that deal done and keep Vladdy and Bo together.

[Eat My Shatkins]

58 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

Yeah I think all of 

Vladdy 

Santander 

Barger 

Could hit 30+ HR

Nobody else will but that would be nice 

Varsho had 20 this season with half a seasons worth of PAs

And do we really think Springer is going to go into the tank again next season?

Could easily have 5 guys hit 30+ bombs next year. I don't think anyone would fall out of their chairs in surprise if it happened.