Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 42 minutes ago, Jays24 said: For sure but it's not like there are teams beating down his door to make a much better offer. I'm baffled by the small numbers being presented at this stage. Teams are undervaluing what it means to have a solidified number 3/4 hitter on your team. The Jays did it with Teo and now the Mets will regret it with Pete if he leaves. One dimensional players simply aren't worth as much. The contract we just got Tony Taters for seems to back that up, as does the deal Teo got. Stangstag 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 4 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: One dimensional players simply aren't worth as much. The contract we just got Tony Taters for seems to back that up, as does the deal Teo got. And I disagree with that approach if that one dimension is what your team needs. Like I said, teams are undervaluing what having a good to great number 3/4 hitter means. This team just traded for a one dimensional 2nd baseman on a 6/100M deal and I'd argue this team needs a middle of the bat player more than it needs a defensive 2nd baseman. Now if he plays SS, it's a different story.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 1 hour ago, Jays24 said: And I disagree with that approach if that one dimension is what your team needs. Like I said, teams are undervaluing what having a good to great number 3/4 hitter means. This team just traded for a one dimensional 2nd baseman on a 6/100M deal and I'd argue this team needs a middle of the bat player more than it needs a defensive 2nd baseman. Now if he plays SS, it's a different story. I'd wager that MLB front offices that are paid to build teams know more about the value of defensively limited sluggers than you do. Spanky99 1
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 Alonso and Santander are pretty near the same thing. How much more is Alonso asking for above what Santander signed for. It sounds like his ask is unrealistic. He turned down a 3 year 23aav offer from the Mets.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 13 minutes ago, The Cats Ass said: Alonso and Santander are pretty near the same thing. How much more is Alonso asking for above what Santander signed for. It sounds like his ask is unrealistic. He turned down a 3 year 23aav offer from the Mets. Agreed He's delusional Santander was realistic and smart What was in store for all of these guys was shown clearly last off-season
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 Mets Owner Steve Cohen Discusses “Exhausting” Pete Alonso Talks https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/01/mets-owner-steve-cohen-discusses-exhausting-pete-alonso-talks.html Stangstag 1
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 1 minute ago, Laika said: Agreed He's delusional Santander was realistic and smart What was in store for all of these guys was shown clearly last off-season I wonder if it’s more Alonso or more Boras? Or both. if anything the Mets offer seems like a slight overpay.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 18 minutes ago, The Cats Ass said: I wonder if it’s more Alonso or more Boras? Or both. if anything the Mets offer seems like a slight overpay. Either way it's bad when the owner himself is involved and gets annoyed.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 2 minutes ago, G-Snarls said: Either way it's bad when the owner himself is involved and gets annoyed. I imagine it’s comparable to trying to convince a flat earther that the world’s round.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 25, 2025 Posted January 25, 2025 2 hours ago, FellerFromFortune said: I think he's referring to Wander Franco f*cking under age girls. Atta girl.
GoBlue41 Verified Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 https://risingapple.com/ny-mets-what-if-blue-jays-roster-pete-alonso-max-scherzer Kind of an interesting read. Seems like the Mets and Blue Jays have traveling in the same circles for a while now.......
mphenhef Verified Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 4 hours ago, Jays24 said: And I disagree with that approach if that one dimension is what your team needs. Like I said, teams are undervaluing what having a good to great number 3/4 hitter means. This team just traded for a one dimensional 2nd baseman on a 6/100M deal and I'd argue this team needs a middle of the bat player more than it needs a defensive 2nd baseman. Now if he plays SS, it's a different story. There are some questions in the advanced metrics as to how much longer Alonso would provide that one dimension even. And to be fair, Giménez also offers speed in addition to being absolutely elite on defense. Brownie19 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 5 hours ago, max silver said: I'd wager that MLB front offices that are paid to build teams know more about the value of defensively limited sluggers than you do. Then why do we even talk on this messageboard, let's just sign off on everything they do... And I'll choose to trust a front office that isn't universally laughed at and on the verge of being fired lol. Stangstag 1
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 8 hours ago, max silver said: I'd wager that MLB front offices that are paid to build teams know more about the value of defensively limited sluggers than you do. Come on now, that’s kind of a cop out. Because we don’t work for an MLB front office we can’t comment on the value of certain players? Prospects sure, but a guy with 3 MLB seasons has more than enough data for us to be able to form an opinion. Jays24 1
Sorrow Verified Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 I’ve seen a few rumblings that the Jays and Alonso have a 3 year $80 million deal done as well as the physical being complete. Apparently the hold up is just finalizing signing bonus and deferrals. It would be similar to Santanders with opt outs and options that could extend the deal. Will be interesting to see if this actually happens as the sources have been accurate in the past but not people I’m super familiar with. Jays24, BatFlip, Laika and 6 others 8 1
JaysAllMighty Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 34 minutes ago, Sorrow said: I’ve seen a few rumblings that the Jays and Alonso have a 3 year $80 million deal done as well as the physical being complete. Apparently the hold up is just finalizing signing bonus and deferrals. It would be similar to Santanders with opt outs and options that could extend the deal. Will be interesting to see if this actually happens as the sources have been accurate in the past but not people I’m super familiar with. Just get it done Shatkins
Bone R Verified Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 37 minutes ago, Sorrow said: I’ve seen a few rumblings that the Jays and Alonso have a 3 year $80 million deal done as well as the physical being complete. Apparently the hold up is just finalizing signing bonus and deferrals. It would be similar to Santanders with opt outs and options that could extend the deal. Will be interesting to see if this actually happens as the sources have been accurate in the past but not people I’m super familiar with. Boras is probably busy trying to get the Mets to match. It's obvious the Mets are Alonso's preference.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 38 minutes ago, Sorrow said: I’ve seen a few rumblings that the Jays and Alonso have a 3 year $80 million deal done as well as the physical being complete. Apparently the hold up is just finalizing signing bonus and deferrals. It would be similar to Santanders with opt outs and options that could extend the deal. Will be interesting to see if this actually happens as the sources have been accurate in the past but not people I’m super familiar with. Hopefully true. Another masher would be great for the line up. If Bo bounced back and they could have 6 guys with 20+ home runs, and 3 of those have hit 40+ Jays24 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 54 minutes ago, Bone R said: Boras is probably busy trying to get the Mets to match. It's obvious the Mets are Alonso's preference. Can't blame him... we hope to get the same luxury if Vlad hits free agency lol.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 1 hour ago, Sorrow said: I’ve seen a few rumblings that the Jays and Alonso have a 3 year $80 million deal done as well as the physical being complete. Apparently the hold up is just finalizing signing bonus and deferrals. It would be similar to Santanders with opt outs and options that could extend the deal. Will be interesting to see if this actually happens as the sources have been accurate in the past but not people I’m super familiar with. Will hold you to it or we're coming for you lol.
Bone R Verified Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 2 minutes ago, Jays24 said: Will hold you to it or we're coming for you lol. What will you do if he's wrong...fart on him? lol
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 1 minute ago, Bone R said: What will you do if he's wrong...fart on him? lol
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 Spanky99, Jays24, Stangstag and 1 other 4
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 Jesus christ why is it always like this? Like pulling teeth for Toronto to be anybodies first choice. Stangstag 1
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 17 hours ago, Jays24 said: Then why do we even talk on this messageboard, let's just sign off on everything they do... And I'll choose to trust a front office that isn't universally laughed at and on the verge of being fired lol. Who says I was even specifically talking about the Blue Jays front office? MLB as a whole has stopped paying top dollars to one dimensional sluggers in recent offseasons, and this has even extended to the Cohen led Mets.
JaysfaninFL Verified Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 Anyone: Jays fans have had their hearts broken and dreams dashed so many times, there's nothing you could do that would be worse while using their Front Office as leverage for a better deal. Pete: Multiple social media hints? Anyone: Done. Pete: Unconfirmed insider reporting an airplane tracker has me traveling to Toronto? Anyone: Been there. Pete: Confirmed industry source guaranteeing/predicting my imminent signing? Anyone: So cliche it's tired. Pete: ...............what if I went so far as to take an actual physical? Anyone: tell me more.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 3 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said: Hopefully true. Another masher would be great for the line up. If Bo bounced back and they could have 6 guys with 20+ home runs, and 3 of those have hit 40+ Yea, as a Team they need to go from 26th in HRs to top 10. All the teams that made the playoffs were top 10 in HRs. Stangstag and Jays24 2
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2025 Posted January 26, 2025 40 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Yea, as a Team they need to go from 26th in HRs to top 10. All the teams that made the playoffs were top 10 in HRs. If my quick adding is right we’re currently projected by Streamer for 202 HRs which would have put us at 7th last season. Spanky99 1
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