General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[Masterbather]

57 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

They don't want to take Bieber off regular rest. Reds have some good pitching against us, Greene, Lodolo and Littell. What a grind the MLB is, lol.

Yes but the games against the Yankees are far more important than the games against the Reds. 

One extra day is not going to make a difference, it's actually a shocking decision to me. I guess they can still adjust but what if the lead is down to one or two games do you really not want Bieber for one of those three? It's crazy.

[Masterbather]

51 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

Not adding Yesavage is baffling. Unless he can be added before the game this afternoon and still be eligible for the PS, it doesn't make sense.

Unless they just don't think he's ready for the show. Otherwise it stands to be one of the dumbest decisions of the year.

[infinitebook]

1 hour ago, Spanky__99 said:

Not adding Yesavage is baffling. Unless he can be added before the game this afternoon and still be eligible for the PS, it doesn't make sense.

My understanding was that you just need to be in the organization. 

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A player who doesn't meet said criteria for postseason eligibility can still be added to a team's roster in the postseason via petition to the Commissioner's Office if the player was in the organization on Aug. 31 and is replacing someone who is on the injured list and has served the minimum amount of time required for activation. (For example, a player on the 10-day injured list who has been on it for at least 10 days, or a player who has been on the 60-day injured list for at least 60 days.

via: https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/postseason-roster-rules-eligibility

Based off this, Yesavage should be able to replace an injured player on the roster and still be eligible.

[BB17]

9 hours ago, Stangstag said:

Businesses will buy them

That they still haven’t sold them out while the Jays have had this big stretch of good play is telling. 

With all the premium 100 level clubs already they are getting to the point where they have “too many” premium seats and it’s over saturated. 
 

I did a walk through of the experience as they have a demo of it where the td clubs are now and while it looks like a great experience it’s way over priced. It was like $300 a ticket per game lol. If it was $175-$200 they would have sold a lot more.

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Masterbather said:

Yes but the games against the Yankees are far more important than the games against the Reds. 

One extra day is not going to make a difference, it's actually a shocking decision to me. I guess they can still adjust but what if the lead is down to one or two games do you really not want Bieber for one of those three? It's crazy.

There's an off day Thursday, it was either regular rest as they've said numerous times that they want(more work prior to the post season), and or pitching Friday would've been on 6 days rest, they didn't want to do it. I understand, and they believe Lauer's a possible fit against the LHH heavy Yankees or something of that sort. Meh, just win series. They'll be fine.

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Masterbather said:

Unless they just don't think he's ready for the show. Otherwise it stands to be one of the dumbest decisions of the year.

Sure it's possible, from everything I've read on him is he's MLB ready and pretty much polished, I don't get it. Using him low leverage even as multi inning pitcher  to start would make things easier on him and lengthens out the pen. Again, I don't get it.

[Barrelsandbombs]

3 hours ago, infinitebook said:

My understanding was that you just need to be in the organization. 

via: https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/postseason-roster-rules-eligibility

Based off this, Yesavage should be able to replace an injured player on the roster and still be eligible.

If I'm understanding what you just said correctly, it seems he can still be postseason eligible if they call him up today and the corresponding 40-man move is putting Sandlin on the 60-day IL?

[max silver]

3 hours ago, infinitebook said:

My understanding was that you just need to be in the organization. 

via: https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/postseason-roster-rules-eligibility

Based off this, Yesavage should be able to replace an injured player on the roster and still be eligible.

Does it matter how recently the injury occurred? Yimi Garcia and Nick Sandlin have each been out long term but aside from another reliever going down due to injury it could complicate matters.

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, infinitebook said:

My understanding was that you just need to be in the organization. 

via: https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/postseason-roster-rules-eligibility

Based off this, Yesavage should be able to replace an injured player on the roster and still be eligible.

He needed to be added to the 40 man by last night to be eligible for injury activation, if he was put on the 26 man yesterday for a day, they still could've sent him back to Buffalo to start if they wanted or cut his work back and use him as a reliever that this club kind of sorely needed. Throwing Yesavage into the postseason without any work for emergency, that would be suicide.

[max silver]

12 hours ago, Masterbather said:

I really wish people would stop projecting on here. 

Just because somebody mentions concerns with the team, which a lot of people do on here, that doesn't mean they're hyperventilating or panicking or even depressed. 

It just means they're pointing out concerns with the team. Which is what a message board is for. 

Is that okay? Is that allowed?

After your Oscar worthy sky is falling performance earlier in the season you are just going to have to continue to take your lumps. It's like there's a dark cloud constantly following you and there's always a crisis lurking around every corner at all points of the season. We can all see that this team isn't perfect but there is still a lot of talent on the entire roster including the pitching staff. We've seen at various points at the season that this bullpen can be highly effective and completely shut down the opposition as it's staffed with a lot of filthy arms but unfortunately most of these dudes tend to go through periods of struggles as we've seen over the last month. The starting rotation is rounding into form as Gausman has been pitching like a borderline number 1 over the last few months, Bieber is looking like an ace so far and Scherzer was performing very well recently as well prior to yesterday's game where his back was acting up so hopefully this continues into the post season and lessens the relative load on the bullpen a touch.

[max silver]

7 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

He needed to be added to the 40 man by last night to be eligible for injury activation, if he was put on the 26 man yesterday for a day, they still could've sent him back to Buffalo to start if they wanted or cut his work back and use him as a reliever that this club kind of sorely needed. Throwing Yesavage into the postseason without any work for emergency, that would be suicide.

I think you may be missing a key point in the first paragraph that could open the door for Yesavage to be added to the post season roster despite not being on the 40 man roster.

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n a typical season, any player who is on the 40-man roster or 60-day injured list as of 11:59 p.m. ET on Aug. 31 is eligible for the postseason.

Those on the restricted list at that point are also eligible if they haven't been suspended for performance-enhancing drugs during that season. (All players who have served a suspension for PEDs in a given season are ineligible for postseason play that year.)

A player who doesn't meet said criteria for postseason eligibility can still be added to a team's roster in the postseason via petition to the Commissioner's Office if the player was in the organization on Aug. 31 and is replacing someone who is on the injured list and has served the minimum amount of time required for activation. (For example, a player on the 10-day injured list who has been on it for at least 10 days, or a player who has been on the 60-day injured list for at least 60 days.) Players who are acquired in September or after are ineligible.

The bolded sentence shows that players can still be added to the post season roster as an injury replacement even if they aren't on the 40 man roster or 60 day injured list on September 1.

 

[Spanky__99]

5 minutes ago, max silver said:

I think you may be missing a key point in the first paragraph that could open the door for Yesavage to be added to the post season roster despite not being on the 40 man roster.

The bolded sentence shows that players can still be added to the post season roster as an injury replacement even if they aren't on the 40 man roster or 60 day injured list on September 1.

 

So why wouldn't they just add him last night, they had an open spot. Unless IKF was added yesterday. They need to add a pitcher today anyhow. Not to mention he needs September reps if he were to be used in the postseason. IDK, I guess we'll see. I think he can seriously help and it irks me that they've even set themselves up for these roadblocks. That injury procedure with the MLB has been around for a long time, just tightened up during the last CBA. You rarely ever see guys jump from the farm to that position is all, likely a handful of times due to injury. Ughh... it really does annoy me, dude, lol.

[glory]

Yeah would be very disappointing if Yesavage wasn't added. There isn't much the Jays can do to add upside to the roster the rest of the way. He's one of the only (or the only) way to actually do it. No guarantee he would be effective, but still a move that should be (or should have been) made. 

[max silver]

4 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

So why wouldn't they just add him last night, they had an open spot. Unless IKF was added yesterday. They need to add a pitcher today anyhow. Not to mention he needs September reps if he were to be used in the postseason. IDK, I guess we'll see. I think he can seriously help and it irks me that they've even set themselves up for these roadblocks. That injury procedure with the MLB has been around for a long time, just tightened up during the last CBA. You rarely ever see guys jump from the farm to that position is all, likely a handful of times due to injury. Ughh... it really does annoy me, dude, lol.

We shall see who is added to the pitching staff later today. It appears as though it will be more of a fungible type of arm to simply cover a few innings vs someone who can make any kind of impact. I don't know if the front office doesn't think Yesavage is ready for a callup or what their thinking is at this point.

[max silver]

Just now, glory said:

Yeah would be very disappointing if Yesavage wasn't added. There isn't much the Jays can do to add upside to the roster the rest of the way. He's one of the only (or the only) way to actually do it. No guarantee he would be effective, but still a move that should be (or should have been) made. 

Bringing Fisher back up can provide some impact as well as he's arguably been the team's best/most reliable reliever this season. He had wobbled a tiny bit in recent outings but he showed that he was a really high quality reliever and I fully believe it was a mistake to send him down over Fluharty who was sent down a few days later anyway. 

[Spanky__99]

5 minutes ago, max silver said:

We shall see who is added to the pitching staff later today. It appears as though it will be more of a fungible type of arm to simply cover a few innings vs someone who can make any kind of impact. I don't know if the front office doesn't think Yesavage is ready for a callup or what their thinking is at this point.

That can be entirely possible, doesn't mean I have to like the process, hahaha... I'd just wish they moved in this direction yesterday. And use the man, what's the harm? So we'll see Pina or Estrada or something get activated today when I think the proper direction was Yesavage. Fischer's eligible on the 6th, they could've kicked Easton Lucas to the curb when that time comes. There's only so many games left to get a real look at him, honestly I thought he was getting the call on the 15th of August, as his rookie status stays intact next season, we're running out of games. I digress... lets see what happens.

[Spanky__99]

30 minutes ago, glory said:

Yeah would be very disappointing if Yesavage wasn't added. There isn't much the Jays can do to add upside to the roster the rest of the way. He's one of the only (or the only) way to actually do it. No guarantee he would be effective, but still a move that should be (or should have been) made. 

No doubt, my point in a nutshell.

[jaysblue]

1 hour ago, BB17 said:

That they still haven’t sold them out while the Jays have had this big stretch of good play is telling. 

With all the premium 100 level clubs already they are getting to the point where they have “too many” premium seats and it’s over saturated. 
 

I did a walk through of the experience as they have a demo of it where the td clubs are now and while it looks like a great experience it’s way over priced. It was like $300 a ticket per game lol. If it was $175-$200 they would have sold a lot more.

Yeah, even one of my friends had a ticket rep contact him and they're trying hard to sell these seats for next year. $250-300 per game is a lot. I was even contemplating going in 25% but that would be $10K lol. Would rather just buy another pair of Buffalo Bills season tickets haha. I told him if he wants to go to a game in that section, just purchase them off SeatGeek or StubHub the day of for likely cheaper or pay the price for that experience as a one-off. Would be tough to unload so many games at that price, especially games in April or against bad teams. 

Like you said, they over saturated the Rogers Centre with too many premium seats/clubs that are out of price range for the average person. A lot of these premium dugout/infield seats used to be $70-80 or even $100. Only corporations could really purchase season tickets here now. 

I was lucky back in 2009. One of my dad's friends knew a guy who had season tickets two rows behind the away dugout and I always bought a strip of 25 games off him before the season for $50 each seat/$100 for the pair. Those days are over when it comes to those prices lol. Did that for a couple of years, which was nice and saw some great games as well. Like the Halladay/Burnett pitching matchup in 2009. 

[keggy]

6 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

Not adding Yesavage is baffling. Unless he can be added before the game this afternoon and still be eligible for the PS, it doesn't make sense.

Thankfully we're past these debates, but Anthopoulos 100% would have taken the risk and called up Yesavage.

[Masterbather]

8 minutes ago, keggy said:

Thankfully we're past these debates, but Anthopoulos 100% would have taken the risk and called up Yesavage.

What's this "we" business?

[Masterbather]

Gutless f***ing cowards not giving Yesavage a chance at the postseason roster. 

People can slobber all over their nuts all they want I still f***ing hate this failure of a front office.

[max silver]

6 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Gutless f***ing cowards not giving Yesavage a chance at the postseason roster. 

People can slobber all over their nuts all they want I still f***ing hate this failure of a front office.

[Masterbather]

1 minute ago, max silver said:

I know, I must be overreacting again, bottom 10 pitching staff? Don't you worry Dillon f***ing Tate will save the day lol 

Maybe IKF can pitch?

[max silver]

10 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

I know, I must be overreacting again, bottom 10 pitching staff? Don't you worry Dillon f***ing Tate will save the day lol 

Maybe IKF can pitch?

It's good to see you throwing a tantrum instead of the usual assortment of end is nigh type of posts. That displays some tremendous personal growth. Yesavage is a completely untested/unproven rookie who has struggled with walks in AAA this season. It's been pointed out that there is a loophole that may allow Yesavage to be on the post season roster as in injury replacement so it's not the literal end of the world if he's not in the bullpen on September 1.

[Spanky__99]

6 hours ago, Masterbather said:

Unless they just don't think he's ready for the show. Otherwise it stands to be one of the dumbest decisions of the year.

 

34 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Gutless f***ing cowards not giving Yesavage a chance at the postseason roster. 

People can slobber all over their nuts all they want I still f***ing hate this failure of a front office.

 

23 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

I know, I must be overreacting again, bottom 10 pitching staff? Don't you worry Dillon f***ing Tate will save the day lol 

Maybe IKF can pitch?

[Masterbather]

21 minutes ago, max silver said:

It's good to see you throwing a tantrum instead of the usual assortment of end is nigh type of posts. That displays some tremendous personal growth. Yesavage is a completely untested/unproven rookie who has struggled with walks in AAA this season. It's been pointed out that there is a loophole that may allow Yesavage to be on the post season roster as in injury replacement so it's not the literal end of the world if he's not in the bullpen on September 1.

Well have you noticed what we have on the major league roster? They are tested and...well...they kind of suck. As a collective group the best they've been this year is mediocre.

Sometimes you try to catch lightning in a bottle. 

I've seen the whole thing about the petition but I don't think they would leave this to chance, especially since it's not like we're sitting here with a 10 game lead and cruising.

It seems they just don't want him here. Whatever I guess we'll see.

[Omar]

Yesavage has a strike out rate north of 42%!!!! Plus his weird arm angle on delivery is confounding batters. In a short stint for the next six weeks they could have lightening in a bottle. 

Isn't that exactly what this bullpen needs?  Colour me surprised he isn't with the team right now. 

[Masterbather]

5 minutes ago, Omar said:

Yesavage has a strike out rate north of 42%!!!! Plus his weird arm angle on delivery is confounding batters. In a short stint for the next six weeks they could have lightening in a bottle. 

Isn't that exactly what this bullpen needs?  Colour me surprised he isn't with the team right now. 

[Buster]

Is it a years of control thing? 

 

Would be dumb, but is that what they are thinking?

[Grant77]

3 minutes ago, Buster said:

Is it a years of control thing? 

 

Would be dumb, but is that what they are thinking?

By not adding him to the 40, we will have more roster flexibility throughout the offseason. That shouldn't really be a concern in my opinion, but maybe it matters to them.