General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)

[Eat My Shatkins]

Manoah is shoving tonight so far.

 

4 IP, 7 Ks, 1 hit, 1 walk, 0 runs

 

57 pitches 39 strikes

[Terminator]

Holy s*** Manoah is going toe to toe with Paul Skenes right now.

 

7 Ks and 1 walk through 4 scoreless innings.

 

He's ready.

[Masterbather]

He looks like he lost some more since ST.

 

I was wrong. On Manoah and Vladdy.

 

They need to get fat again, as fat as they were during their MVP and Cy Young seasons. It's our only hope now.

[Terminator]

Manoah has 10 Ks and 0 ER through 5 innings now. Just 2 walks and 1 hit.

 

Lukes is 3-3 with a 2B off Skenes.

[Eat My Shatkins]

11 K's for Manoah now

[Eat My Shatkins]

Manoah gave up a dinger in the 6th, but two more K's

 

6 P

12 K's

2 walks

2 hits

1 run

 

92 pitches, 62 strikes.

 

I'm only following on the gameday, slider is 82 MPH, 4 seam 93-95 MPH and tons of swing and miss. (obviously)

[hanton]

results matter now eh?

[max silver]

Manoah gave up a dinger in the 6th, but two more K's

 

6 P

12 K's

2 walks

2 hits

1 run

 

92 pitches, 62 strikes.

 

I'm only following on the gameday, slider is 82 MPH, 4 seam 93-95 MPH and tons of swing and miss. (obviously)

 

There are a lot of positives to this start. He averaged 94.2 MPH on the heater and induced a 57% whiff rate on 13 of 23 sliders. He threw 62 of 92 pitches in the strike zone as well.

[saskjayfan]

Manoah gave up a dinger in the 6th, but two more K's

 

6 P

12 K's

2 walks

2 hits

1 run

 

92 pitches, 62 strikes.

 

I'm only following on the gameday, slider is 82 MPH, 4 seam 93-95 MPH and tons of swing and miss. (obviously)

 

The month of April was basically his spring training. 12 Ks is no joke. Francis isn't a starter. Just bring Alek up and let's see what he's got.

[Terminator]

Cy Manoah is back and the Jays rotation is going to be STACKED

[HomeRunHomer]

I think his rehab stint ends in a week when they would either have to bring him up or option him. So maybe he gets one more AAA start before they bring him up.

[Masterbather]

There are a lot of positives to this start. He averaged 94.2 MPH on the heater and induced a 57% whiff rate on 13 of 23 sliders. He threw 62 of 92 pitches in the strike zone as well.

 

Not buying it yet. If he has a second solid start, maybe I'll start to buy it but he was a lost cause practically all of last season and has looked terrible until suddenly he has this start.

[G-Snarls]

results matter now eh?

 

Yes, when they're favorable

[wilko]

Manoah gave up a dinger in the 6th, but two more K's

 

6 P

12 K's

2 walks

2 hits

1 run

 

92 pitches, 62 strikes.

 

I'm only following on the gameday, slider is 82 MPH, 4 seam 93-95 MPH and tons of swing and miss. (obviously)

 

Let's see what he does in his next start.

[G-Snarls]

I'd LOVE to see him do it again and actually make them feel good about bringing him up

[BigCecil]

I'd LOVE to see him do it again and actually make them feel good about bringing him up

 

Ya, we need Manoah. Francis, Yariel, Green IL. Pitching staff ends the month 28th in fWAR. 21st in ERA and 27th in FIP. 25th K/9. 18th xFIP.

 

Great D can only do much. Man, our offence really needs to get going.

[MikeM3]

Way too much reverence being paid to Springer Bo and Vlad. None are even close to Corbin Carroll and that guy got moved to 8th.

 

Right now the top of the lineup should have Varsho Babe and Danny sprinkled in it. Keep Vlad 4th if you want. Springer and Bo can drop

[Terminator]

One thing about the offense that isn't getting mentioned is how depressed the offensive environment is right now.

 

Jays have a .674 OPS and that's the 4th worst April in franchise history. But it's still good for a 98 wRC+.

[burlingtonbandit]

One thing about the offense that isn't getting mentioned is how depressed the offensive environment is right now.

 

Jays have a .674 OPS and that's the 4th worst April in franchise history. But it's still good for a 98 wRC+.

 

The baseballs seem dead. I've gone to 5-6 games at RC so far and the ball just isn't carrying.

[mphenhef]

The baseballs seem dead. I've gone to 5-6 games at RC so far and the ball just isn't carrying.

 

MLB can't even properly manage getting good uniforms. I don't have any faith that they are ensuring balls meet the proper standards.

[Dick_Pole]

One thing about the offense that isn't getting mentioned is how depressed the offensive environment is right now.

 

Jays have a .674 OPS and that's the 4th worst April in franchise history. But it's still good for a 98 wRC+.

 

I still think it's an April effect. I've done quite well on over totals so far this year which means the bookies are overcompensating with their models. In what universe does Boston give up an average of 3.5 runs per game for a sustained period of time?

[Terminator]

I still think it's an April effect. I've done quite well on over totals so far this year which means the bookies are overcompensating with their models. In what universe does Boston give up an average of 3.5 runs per game for a sustained period of time?

 

Yes I believe the April effect is a real thing but I think this April has been especially harsh on offense. Haven't seen any official numbers on that or anything but I have heard it mentioned.

[Terminator]

One thing about the offense that isn't getting mentioned is how depressed the offensive environment is right now.

 

Jays have a .674 OPS and that's the 4th worst April in franchise history. But it's still good for a 98 wRC+.

 

On top of this, our schedule seems like it's been pretty difficult so far. I bet the Stuff+ we have faced on the season is well above average.

 

May's schedule looks far easier. 5 off days (compared to 3 in April) and 6 games against the White Sox. I bet the offense starts to look a lot better this month.

[Jays24]

With the multiple days off, I don't think the Jays need a 5th starter but guessing when they do, Manoah will be the guy to do it.

[Jays24]

Has there been any word on Votto or did stepping on a damn bat end his career? I swear some of the injuries baseball suffer are ridiculous.

[wilko]

Has there been any word on Votto or did stepping on a damn bat end his career? I swear some of the injuries baseball suffer are ridiculous.

 

Yesterday he posted a video on his Instagram story hitting off a Tee. Apparently he's running but not actively hitting yet.

[Jays24]

Yesterday he posted a video on his Instagram story hitting off a Tee. Apparently he's running but not actively hitting yet.

 

Holy crap... I thought I saw him hit against Gausman like a month ago. How is he moving backwards like this lol.

[Laika]

Holy crap... I thought I saw him hit against Gausman like a month ago. How is he moving backwards like this lol.

 

He's a geezer

 

It must have been a very bad ankle sprain. Like a high ankle sprain or grade 2+ sprain

[max silver]

Not buying it yet. If he has a second solid start, maybe I'll start to buy it but he was a lost cause practically all of last season and has looked terrible until suddenly he has this start.

 

This is 2 out of 3 solid starts for Alek. In his first AAA start it sounds as though he was largely BABIP'ed to death as his FIP was solid at 2.19. His second AAA start was pretty good with 2 ER over 5.2 innings of work and he allowed no walks. The 3rd start was the disaster where he had no command and walked a ton of hitters and garnered a lot of solid contact against, and that was followed up by the gem yesterday. All told in the 3 starts where he appeared to be commanding his pitches and working in the strike zone he walked only 3 batters in a combined 14.2 innings so it appears as though his strike throwing ability and command are improving a lot over time.

[Brownie19]

An element of our s***** offense that nobody talks about is base running. Turner and Kirk playing a lot to start the year obviously drag it down, but other than that, we should have a solid base running team. We're currently 4th worst in baseball. It's not acceptable. I thought changing up the 3rd base coach would help, but it hasn't. Pretty sad unfortunately.