General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[hanton]

[Krylian]

https://apple.news/AatiNJMr3QhGkcVwqGI5goA

 

 

Ok who do you think the player was who refused to participate?

 

Doubt it’s Chapman, Kiermaier or Merrifield.

 

So that leaves Hicks or Belt.

 

Wasn't Hicks really not happy about being in Toronto? I'd be surprised if it wasn't him.

[Stangstag]

 

Completely fair

[Stangstag]

Wasn't Hicks really not happy about being in Toronto? I'd be surprised if it wasn't him.

 

Could’ve been Manoah lol who knows

 

My second guess would be Merrifield

[Marew]

I doubt manoah was asked to participate, but if he was it’s likely him. If not, probably hicks just because he wasn’t here as long as everyone else. Or Paul Dejong if he was here during that time.

[Terminator]

The way Wilner said he won't be here next year makes me thing it was Hicks.

[Marew]

Some people just might not be comfortable with this type of thing. Some creep comes in and asks you to rate your coworkers, with a paper trail, I would tell him to get f***ed.

[BigCecil]

 

If we get anything near a combined WAR of 4.8 again from Bo and Vlad, paper tiger is a good descriptor.

[Stangstag]

Its a f***ing shame they just threw away all these old seats. I would’ve paid at least $100 a pop for a few of these

 

[Spanky99]

Its a f***ing shame they just threw away all these old seats. I would’ve paid at least $100 a pop for a few of these

 

 

Just drive to the Don Mills dump and cut or pick them up, wouldn't cost a 100 a pop, I'm sure there's been a lot of those seats saved, though.

[jaysblue]

Just drive to the Don Mills dump and cut or pick them up, wouldn't cost a 100 a pop, I'm sure there's been a lot of those seats saved, though.

 

If you're going, pick me one up as well Jay!

[jaysblue]

Its a f***ing shame they just threw away all these old seats. I would’ve paid at least $100 a pop for a few of these

 

 

I'm sure they will auction some seats off.

[Spanky99]

If you're going, pick me one up as well Jay!

 

lol

[Orgfiller]

If we get anything near a combined WAR of 4.8 again from Bo and Vlad, paper tiger is a good descriptor.

 

Harsh to Bo who provided 80% of that.

[Spanky99]

E-60 TSN is showing the Roy Halladay story doc, it's very good IIRC, just an fyi,

[Spanky99]

E-60 TSN is showing the Roy Halladay story doc, it's very good IIRC, just an fyi,

 

Man, in watching that, it pulls hard hard on your heart strings, and someone was cuttings onions.

 

RIP *DOC* 34

[mellowgold]

So Click is (allegedly) being considered for the Red Sox job. Another promising baseball mind from a cutting edge organization we passed up on just to wait for Ross Blame-the-coach-because-I-have-no-clue-what-my-team-is-doing Atkins to bring us to the promised land.

[Stangstag]

So Click is (allegedly) being considered for the Red Sox job. Another promising baseball mind from a cutting edge organization we passed up on just to wait for Ross Blame-the-coach-because-I-have-no-clue-what-my-team-is-doing Atkins to bring us to the promised land.

 

Im like 99% sure he’s going to take the Redsox job and they’ll win a WS with him before we do.

[Laika]

So Click is (allegedly) being considered for the Red Sox job. Another promising baseball mind from a cutting edge organization we passed up on just to wait for Ross Blame-the-coach-because-I-have-no-clue-what-my-team-is-doing Atkins to bring us to the promised land.

 

He is literally part of the Blue Jays front office.

 

If he was so f***ing good you'd think you guys wouldn't, you know, hate the Blue Jays brain trust so much.

 

Click is also the "VP of Baseball Strategy" so you'd think that angry Jays fans would be mad at him specifically, seeing that the two biggest complaints at the end of this year are both baseball strategy things, being the team's day to day offensive approach and the one game decision to pull Berrios.

[Spanky99]

He is literally part of the Blue Jays front office.

 

If he was so f***ing good you'd think you guys wouldn't, you know, hate the Blue Jays brain trust so much.

 

Click is also the "VP of Baseball Strategy" so you'd think that angry Jays fans would be mad at him specifically, seeing that the two biggest complaints at the end of this year are both baseball strategy things, being the team's day to day offensive approach and the one game decision to pull Berrios.

 

I've brought this up, several times. Just saying...

 

Here's a couple time's...

 

Power and an entire different hitting strategy team, I was going to say Click but he's the team strategy guy. New blood anyway.

 

I thought Click was the obvious fit too, his job title was AGM/Gameplanner I believe, or something of that ilk and I hesitated, lol.

Edited October 17, 2023 by Spanky99

[Brownie19]

He is literally part of the Blue Jays front office.

 

If he was so f***ing good you'd think you guys wouldn't, you know, hate the Blue Jays brain trust so much.

 

Click is also the "VP of Baseball Strategy" so you'd think that angry Jays fans would be mad at him specifically, seeing that the two biggest complaints at the end of this year are both baseball strategy things, being the team's day to day offensive approach and the one game decision to pull Berrios.

 

You're giving angry Blue Jay fans too much credit.

[John_Havok]

He is literally part of the Blue Jays front office.

 

If he was so f***ing good you'd think you guys wouldn't, you know, hate the Blue Jays brain trust so much.

 

Click is also the "VP of Baseball Strategy" so you'd think that angry Jays fans would be mad at him specifically, seeing that the two biggest complaints at the end of this year are both baseball strategy things, being the team's day to day offensive approach and the one game decision to pull Berrios.

 

Your first mistake is assuming people are rational and make decisions on actual information.

[mellowgold]

He is literally part of the Blue Jays front office.

 

If he was so f***ing good you'd think you guys wouldn't, you know, hate the Blue Jays brain trust so much.

 

Click is also the "VP of Baseball Strategy" so you'd think that angry Jays fans would be mad at him specifically, seeing that the two biggest complaints at the end of this year are both baseball strategy things, being the team's day to day offensive approach and the one game decision to pull Berrios.

 

I don't know if he's good or not. But he's in house and he cut his teeth with one of the most successful organizations in the sport. It seems likely he'd learn a thing or two.

 

What I do know (or strongly suspect based on what we have seen) is that Atkins is NOT the answer.

 

And I don't care what his position is with us, at the end of the day, his voice is not the one that matters.

We don't know how he'd fare until he is given full autonomy.

[mellowgold]

I've brought this up, several times. Just saying...

 

Here's a couple time's...

 

Wow, good job Spanky!

 

Want a milkbone?

 

Oh, you're a good boy, aren't you? Yes you are.

 

Stay in your lane, the adults are talking.

[Jimcanuck]

Blue Jays

 

• Cavan Biggio changed his mechanics and performed better.

 

From May 23 on, Cavan Biggio slashed .265/.378/.407 with a 124 wRC+, re-establishing himself as a valuable complement to the lineup. A change in mechanics and mindset helped Biggio have his first above-average offensive season since the shortened 2020 campaign and moving forward, he’ll slide into a versatile super-utility man role.

 

Here is an explanation of the change:

 

Biggio has worked to “swing down” more, which sounds counterintuitive in an era of baseball obsessed with hitting the ball in the air. He recognized early that his attempts to lift the ball had him pulling his bat away from the zone too quickly. The balance was all off.

 

“I’ve always been a guy who hits a lot of fly balls, especially when I’m not really using the whole field,” Biggio said. “Swinging down on it, keeping my head on it and being able to use the whole field has been able to help me cover the whole zone. That gives me a ton of confidence.”

 

This started back in Spring Training, when Biggio attached himself to Victor Martinez. V-Mart has been with the organization as a special assistant and had an immediate impact on a handful of the club’s young hitters, Biggio included.

 

Biggio lowered his launch angle some (20 degrees to 16 degrees). The problem is that he only has a 33% HardHit%, so he profiles as a flyout hitter. Too much launch angle to hit line drives, and too little power to hit home runs. All of Biggio’s 2023 gains are plate discipline based with his 1H to 2H K% going from 31% to 21% and his 1H to 2H BB% going from 7% to 16%.

[glory]

Biggio has worked to “swing down” more

 

I kinda want to sign Josh Donaldson now just to see how quickly he voluntarily retires after spending a few minutes talking to Jays coaches.

[Jimcanuck]

I kinda want to sign Josh Donaldson now just to see how quick he voluntarily retires after spending a few minutes talking to Jays coaches.

 

It makes sense for Biggio, he doesn't have home run power and less of an uppercut means the bat spends more time in the zone. Also a simpler swing so he should catch up to more fastballs.

[Laika]

Victor Martinez. There's another possible answer for the question of who the f*** ruined Springer, Kirk, Vlad, Chapman this year

[Jimcanuck]

Victor Martinez. There's another possible answer for the question of who the f*** ruined Springer, Kirk, Vlad, Chapman this year

 

Springer, Vlad, and Chapman wouldn't listen to any coaches. They are their own coach, for better or worse.

[Omar]

Victor Martinez. There's another possible answer for the question of who the f*** ruined Springer, Kirk, Vlad, Chapman this year

 

No VMart could swing it. He wouldn't dare.

 

edit: just fire anyone in the org with the surname Martinez.............(sorry you too Buck).