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I just don’t know if the Jays team is going to hit enough this Season.
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I just don’t know if the Jays team is going to hit enough this Season.

 

They won't. I was never completely convinced that the offense was going to be as substantial as some others. Half the lineup is very effective, the other half is abominable. And there's no depth guys that we can turn to that are any better.

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I just don’t know if the Jays team is going to hit enough this Season.

 

This team has hit a lot less than I expected. I do think they have another potential gear offensively but they just haven't managed a streak where most of the lineup has been going at once.

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They won't. I was never completely convinced that the offense was going to be as substantial as some others. Half the lineup is very effective, the other half is abominable. And there's no depth guys that we can turn to that are any better.

 

Jays are still 11th on offense (by wRC+) and 13th in runs scored.

 

On the pitching/D side they are 7th in xFIP and 1st for DRS.

 

They pretty much carried out what they meant to do, improve the D and make the offense more dynamic. Speedy guys like Whit, Varsho and KK. Although to this point, a lot of guys have been underperforming.

 

Realistically the offense should improve to just outside the top 5 by the end of the year. Guys like Kirk, Jansen, Springer, Varsho, Belt should have better stats by the end.

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Jays are still 11th on offense (by wRC+) and 13th in runs scored.

 

On the pitching/D side they are 7th in xFIP and 1st for DRS.

 

They pretty much carried out what they meant to do, improve the D and make the offense more dynamic. Speedy guys like Whit, Varsho and KK. Although to this point, a lot of guys have been underperforming.

 

Realistically the offense should improve to just outside the top 5 by the end of the year. Guys like Kirk, Jansen, Springer, Varsho, Belt should have better stats by the end.

 

 

Biggio & Espinal enter chat

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Biggio & Espinal enter chat

 

Whit will probably get the majority of 2B at bats going forward... might see a corner OF or 2B upgrade at the deadline also

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They won't. I was never completely convinced that the offense was going to be as substantial as some others. Half the lineup is very effective, the other half is abominable. And there's no depth guys that we can turn to that are any better.

 

I think Springer, Kirk and Jansen are all going to eventually produce results closer to their actual abilities. The middle of the order has been the biggest issue holding th team back offensively so far, so once these guys start to click a little the situation should improve a lot. Second base very well may continue to be a bit of a black hole as only Merrifield has provided any value at all so far.

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Sabr shmaber. If you watch grass roots baseball even, 1b D matters. Stretching, scooping, getting a jump on balls hit to the holes. WAR dumb system with 1b

 

THat was my point.

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Should be easy enough to find a decent bat at the deadline. Someone who can upgrade the backup IF spot would be great or a LHH OF
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Should be easy enough to find a decent bat at the deadline. Someone who can upgrade the backup IF spot would be great or a LHH OF

 

It's weird

 

In the off season I felt really good about a bench of Merrifield/Espinal/Kirk/Biggio

 

Now not so much..... Merrifield has shown himself able as an everyday player and Espinal/Biggo have done worse than nothing

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It's weird

 

In the off season I felt really good about a bench of Merrifield/Espinal/Kirk/Biggio

 

Now not so much..... Merrifield has shown himself able as an everyday player and Espinal/Biggo have done worse than nothing

 

Yeah, Merrifield's hitting is exactly what they thought they might be getting, he;d be the jack of all trades to spell the other guys when they need a day off, especially against lefty starters - but everyone else has been so ass that he's probably in there more often than they'd like.

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Yeah, Merrifield's hitting is exactly what they thought they might be getting, he;d be the jack of all trades to spell the other guys when they need a day off, especially against lefty starters - but everyone else has been so ass that he's probably in there more often than they'd like.

 

Espinal is by far the most egregious of course. He's there mostly for the defense and he hasn't even provided that while hitting .171/.237/.229

 

He was expected to get plenty of playing time but he's somehow dropped himself from All Star to AAA option/DFA candidate

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It's weird

 

In the off season I felt really good about a bench of Merrifield/Espinal/Kirk/Biggio

 

Now not so much..... Merrifield has shown himself able as an everyday player and Espinal/Biggo have done worse than nothing

 

Yup the bench is terrible. The only guy who has been worth a s*** has been Merrifield

 

Hunter Renfroe would be a good target if they are out of it.

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Looked up Oakland A's middle IF depth charts in search of a trade

 

Almost puked when realized they're all actually worse than what we already have

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Man, that's a flippin' crazy overlay, he could be a serious weapon with consistency, my God!

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That curve with the FB is nasty.

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Looked up Oakland A's middle IF depth charts in search of a trade

 

Almost puked when realized they're all actually worse than what we already have

 

Yeah whenever we need an infielder they are my go to team for mock trades but it is slim pickings in Oakland this year. Yuck.

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Looked up Oakland A's middle IF depth charts in search of a trade

 

Almost puked when realized they're all actually worse than what we already have

 

Biggio would be their cleanup hitter!

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But... but... our offense suxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

The offense doesn't suck, some bats are just stuck in a rut.

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