Rate Blue Jays Trade Deadline

[King]

Poll Incoming.

 

And state your reasons for why.

[King]

It's an A for me.

 

Bass and Pop look like big helps for the bullpen

 

White is an MLB ready starting pitcher with control and De Jesus has a pretty good age to stats/level.

 

Losing Castillo is offset by picking up White and the other pen arms.

 

Merrifield is a 2.5 to 3 win player who is affordable so I like that pick up too.

 

Great job by Atkins once again.

 

The haters are quiet

[ValiantJaysFan]

C.

 

Not good enough relative to what New York and Houston did. Needed a legit starter, got Stripling lite. Needed a left handed bat, got... Unvaccinated Whit Merrifield.

 

Massive fail and feels like they aren't trying to win, they're just trying to get to the playoffs.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Gave 'em an A

 

Prices were exorbitant so I'm glad they steered clear of the big names, didn't pick up any rentals either.

 

Only thing I was really upset about was losing Frasso, but I like the player we got for him, White should fill that swing man/spot starter role quite nicely. Might even be more in the future.

[Angrioter]

B+

 

 

It's not about names.

[Krylian]

C

 

It was fine. Nothing special. The pen is better and has more depth. Starting rotation has a little more depth...Merrifield? Not sure how that's going to work out given the Vax situation.

 

Our depth has improved, but I see no high end game changing talent there.

 

So, what we've added is fine, but I'm not sure how much the needle has moved.

 

I'm not unreasonable though. I will watch and allow for my opinion to be changed.

[204Jays]

Gave them an A.

 

I think they managed to add quality "off-brand" names that addressed the needs of the club.

 

They did that while maintaining their farm which hopefully means the likes of Tiedemann and Moreno etc, pushing up to AAA next year and maybe taking 40 man spots.

[Omar]

C+

 

Is our b-pen better than it was? Yes

Would I rather have Merrifield playing over Zimmer? Yes

Am I glad we took a pass on Thor? Yes

Are we better overall than we were 24 hours ago? Yes.

Is our ceiling higher? No, we simply raised the floor. Maybe that's enough.

 

And we kept Moreno:cool:

[Ehjays]

B

 

I like who we got, but for me its also a grade on the moves we didn't make, Iglesias, Thor etc.. I'd sooner have White over Thor and Iggys contract is bad.

[Captain Adama]

B

 

Got players that improve the team quantifiably. Added some much needed depth. Didn't give up the top end of the farm to do so. Bass and Pop particularly should be really useful.

 

Only thing that would've given them an A would be getting a reliable K guy out of the bullpen.

[mellowgold]

B+

 

Improved the team without any subtractions that are likely to hurt.

[Jonn]

I got it at C for many of the reasons listed above.

 

I just don’t see any game changing talent. The Bullpen feels deeper but it doesn’t really feel better. I still don’t think we addressed its biggest weakness that’s what’s tough to accept. Its more of a feeling like Cimber, Phelps, Mayza, and Garcia don’t have to pitch every night. You got a bunch of guys now that are good to pitch the 6th or 7th inning.

 

I guess will see. I was hoping for more impactful roster changing trades.

[43211234]

C

 

I mostly like the moves they made but no big splashes. Don't get the A votes

[Jaysareus]

Jays were smart not emptying their farm system in a year where either the Yankees and Dodgers will win the world series. For the jays to make the world series this year it would have to be a massive upset over the Yankees. Not happening. Wait till next year when the Yankees hopefully will be a bit weaker.

[Jimcanuck]

A-

 

The moves were fine, but a big need was an SP and that didn't happen. Gaining Mitch White, losing Max Castillo a bit of a wash.

 

Jays SP depth still very weak

[Dagagad]

B+ for me. All the moves felt pretty logical.

[InsideThePark]

B

 

All the moves were decent and about the long term, not rentals which I really like. Nothing really groundbreaking and none of the deals pop off the page as steals though so I don't want to give them an A. It's good though, if you try to go for the flashy ground breaking deals you often end up overpaying for rentals, or empty the farm to not win anyway and have egg on your face. They fixed the pen holes they had for cheap and got a depth starter/swingman. I don't really care for Merrifield but he was pretty much free so whatever.

 

When you fill 4 holes with guys who have term and the only guy I'm even going to miss is Frasso that's a job well done.

[TwistedLogic]

I gave them an F.

 

There is a realistic chance that Castillo is just better than White in the exact same role and they traded Castillo for a Bradley Zimmer replacement in an 80 wRC+ anti-vax idiot bench bat and then used one of their best prospects to get White.

 

Realistically, Castillo to White is a lateral-ish move. Worst case scenario, they gave up a better, younger, more controllable swingman right after acquiring White.

 

Atkins spoke all season about how the bullpen was lacking swing and miss and it would be a priority for them to remedy that. His big move was getting Zach Pop, a guy with a 6.30 K/9, and Anthony Bass, who, while he's having an excellent season, has an xERA double his real ERA.

 

He sent out Castillo, who strikes more guys out than White, the guy he brought in.

 

This was the busiest and wildest trade deadline ever and the Blue Jays big acquisition was Anthony Bass.

 

The fact that Atkins said he wanted to add swing and miss all season and then didn't do that means he failed at the deadline. Failing gets an F.

[Jays24]

Holy s***... talk about a bunch of easy graders. All those people giving an A, wtf would you give if we got Soto ffs loll.

 

The answer is C. We got some good players around the edges players but only Bass will actually have a role for us in October. This is while our competitors got players that will actually help them in the playoffs.

[Carlos Danger]

C

 

The trade deadline did not happen in a vacuum. All our competition got much better compared to us. Not satisfied with making the playoffs and going out round one. Hope, we get hot is not a good strategy.

 

Bass is good for 7th inning or below... Pop, I like very much but not ready yet to assume late inning roles.. Not a high K guy..

 

I feel if Romano gets hurt or starts sucking, we have no bonafide closer.. I was hoping to have closers coming in from the 7th on and set up types 5th inning on..

 

First question out of the mouths of MLB.TV commentators and former GMs when we did the White trade was; What do the Dodgers know that the Jays don't...? In other words, why would the Dodgers give up a young controllable rotation piece and for the return.... What is the catch?? When dealing with the Dodgers I always say the same thing... I don't mind White and think he is a good complimentary piece.. No issues with that.. But as our only potential for SP/long relief help... Compared to SPs our immediate competition got... Nope...

 

Wit Merrifield.. I do really like this move. I think he is the perfect veteran piece that will excel down the stretch and in the playoffs. He plays a key position/s for us with our delicate flowers situation.. Reminds me of the Royals picking up Ben Zobrist in 2015 and I think Merrifield will be the exact same type of player and be clutch/money in the playoffs. I also very much like that he is a contact type hitter who can generate some runs with small ball if needed... The last thing I thought we needed was a low contact, low average, low OBP (this year) HR type like Gallo.. We have the power guys...

 

The way I look at is we are a tech company selling our new model cell phone and competing against a bunch of other cell phone companies.

 

The other companies just released new 6g cell phones with NASA satellite level zoom cameras and we countered by releasing a 5G cell phone with new emojis and faster shutter speed.. Yea, we have a cool really nice cell phone, but compared to our competition not so much.

 

AL Teams better then us- NYY, Astros, Mariners. Teams that will be very hard to beat, we are not significantly better then- Minnesota, Cleveland wont be easy..

NL Teams better than us- Padres, LAD, Mets, Braves.

 

Goal is to win WS.. That is the gauntlet we need to run through..

 

We are a better team now then we were in the AM, without a doubt.. Not sure if we play 3-4 one run close games we are better then any of those Teams...

Edited October 9, 2022 by Carlos Danger

[King]

Spicy takes in this thread.

[Terminator]

I gave them an F.

 

There is a realistic chance that Castillo is just better than White in the exact same role and they traded Castillo for a Bradley Zimmer replacement in an 80 wRC+ anti-vax idiot bench bat and then used one of their best prospects to get White.

 

Realistically, Castillo to White is a lateral-ish move. Worst case scenario, they gave up a better, younger, more controllable swingman right after acquiring White.

 

Atkins spoke all season about how the bullpen was lacking swing and miss and it would be a priority for them to remedy that. His big move was getting Zach Pop, a guy with a 6.30 K/9, and Anthony Bass, who, while he's having an excellent season, has an xERA double his real ERA.

 

He sent out Castillo, who strikes more guys out than White, the guy he brought in.

 

This was the busiest and wildest trade deadline ever and the Blue Jays big acquisition was Anthony Bass.

 

The fact that Atkins said he wanted to add swing and miss all season and then didn't do that means he failed at the deadline. Failing gets an F.

 

^This guy thought Greg Bird (currently hitting .218 for Scranton LMAO) was a big league talent so take his talent evaluation with a HEAVY dose of salt.

[King]

^This guy thought Greg Bird (currently hitting .218 for Scranton LMAO) was a big league talent so take his talent evaluation with a HEAVY dose of salt.

Lmao forgot about that, sadly it's true.

[Jays24]

Lmao forgot about that, sadly it's true.

 

 

Not gonna lie, I thought Bird was poised for a breakout year during spring training too loll

[peterkim]

F

they didnt upgrade bullpen properly

didnt get big left handed bat

starting pitcher was not upgraded

didnt package prospects for good player but sent them one by one

[L54]

I gave them an F.

 

There is a realistic chance that Castillo is just better than White in the exact same role and they traded Castillo for a Bradley Zimmer replacement in an 80 wRC+ anti-vax idiot bench bat and then used one of their best prospects to get White.

 

Realistically, Castillo to White is a lateral-ish move. Worst case scenario, they gave up a better, younger, more controllable swingman right after acquiring White.

 

Atkins spoke all season about how the bullpen was lacking swing and miss and it would be a priority for them to remedy that. His big move was getting Zach Pop, a guy with a 6.30 K/9, and Anthony Bass, who, while he's having an excellent season, has an xERA double his real ERA.

 

He sent out Castillo, who strikes more guys out than White, the guy he brought in.

 

This was the busiest and wildest trade deadline ever and the Blue Jays big acquisition was Anthony Bass.

 

The fact that Atkins said he wanted to add swing and miss all season and then didn't do that means he failed at the deadline. Failing gets an F.

 

Lmao he’s going to take the vaccine man f***ing relax

 

Do you really think Atkins traded for him without knowing if he’d be available to play in Toronto this year?

[L54]

B

 

Massive sellers market. Mahle and Castillo fetched big hauls, relievers were expensive, tough to upgrade offensively on this team. They did what they could without mortgaging the future.

 

What is apparent is the Jays farm is not good right now. It is very top heavy with lots of question marks. Teams like SD, SEA, NYY were able to utilize their farm systems to address their needs aggressively.

 

Wish they would’ve got Iglesias. Maybe he is an anti-vax idiot.

[Jays24]

Lmao he’s going to take the vaccine man f***ing relax

 

Do you really think Atkins traded for him without knowing if he’d be available to play in Toronto this year?

 

Well his comments were pretty stupid and gave that impression lol.

[L54]

Well his comments were pretty stupid and gave that impression lol.

 

Answer honestly

 

Do you think the Toronto Blue Jays traded for Merrifield without knowing whether or not be was able to play home games?

[Carlos Danger]

Answer honestly

 

Do you think the Toronto Blue Jays traded for Merrifield without knowing whether or not be was able to play home games?

 

12 hrs ago, I would have said hell no.. But then I just saw the Padres trade Hosmer to the Nationals without asking if he would waive his no-trade clause.. So... you never know... Ross might have been in a time crunch.. LOL...