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[connorp]

That's just it

 

ARod and Clemens are easy Hall of Famers by the numbers.

 

How can you say only Bonds get in of the 3?

 

Maybe it’s bc I dislike A-Rod but dude got caught red-handed not once, but twice. So f*** him lol. He’s out

[G-Snarls]

Maybe it’s bc I dislike A-Rod but dude got caught red-handed not once, but twice. So f*** him lol. He’s out

 

I can see that thought process affecting voters on ARod. Actually suspended by MLB is prob the worst PED optic

 

But what about Clemens?

[John_Havok]

I can see that thought process

 

But what about Clemens?

 

Clemens was an *******, so,,..... duh, morality clause. AKA, the thing the writers tell themselves over and over again to exclude guys they don't like without proof of anything because one time they were declined for an interview so the player could go do a line of coke off strippers tits.

[G-Snarls]

Clemens was an *******, so,,..... duh, morality clause.

 

This is the problem. Any voter can find a reason they think someone deserves to not make it. None of these guys were likeable at all. Just really good and all used PEDs.

[connorp]

Clemens was an *******, so,,..... duh, morality clause. AKA, the thing the writers tell themselves over and over again to exclude guys they don't like without proof of anything because one time they were declined for an interview so the player could go do a line of coke off strippers tits.

 

Bonds was a dick too… so hopefully the guy will clarify it a bit more, as he said he would

[Stangstag]

Bonds was a dick too… so hopefully the guy will clarify it a bit more, as he said he would

 

He already did, I posted his response. Or you can check his twitter if you wanna see everything he said.

[connorp]

He already did, I posted his response. Or you can check his twitter if you wanna see everything he said.

 

Sorry. I got his explanation on Bonds. I meant not voting for Clemens when it would seem to be the same reason he voted for Bonds. I’ll check it out

[Spanky__99]

Didn't see this posted... lmao, imagine!

 

[max silver]

Didn't see this posted... lmao, imagine!

 

 

I guess blatantly cheating using sticky stuff to enhance spin rates doesn't violate Dodger standards.

[John_Havok]

Bonds was a dick too… so hopefully the guy will clarify it a bit more, as he said he would

 

Of course he will explain more. And the more he explains, the less it will make sense to anyone with a functional brain. The way the writer's cherry-pick who they vote for and don't because of morality clauses and how they apply them differently is nauseating.

 

It shouldn't even be a consideration. All kinds of people in every walk of life are *******s and douchebags, but if you play a sport that has a hall of fame and your numbers warrant your inclusion, that it shouldn't matter if you told a reporter that his or her face looked like a 90 year old vagina, or bet on cockfights in a back alley in Singapore while getting a handjob from a trans midget with a lisp and didnt leave a tip. On field is what matters because it's NOT subjective. You have the numbers, or you don't.

[John_Havok]

I guess blatantly cheating using sticky stuff to enhance spin rates doesn't violate Dodger standards.

 

Master level trolling. The man is a savant.

[G-Snarls]

Master level trolling. The man is a savant.

 

Long term what is it going to do for him though

 

After an eventual fine and suspension the Dodgers will release him.

 

No team wants him and the baggage at that point and I'm sure he knows that. So he'll take the money owed to him and run? Be a podcast/Twitter/radio bad boy?

[John_Havok]

Long term what is it going to do for him though

 

After an eventual fine and suspension the Dodgers will release him.

 

No team wants him and the baggage at that point and I'm sure he knows that. So he'll take the money owed to him and run? Be a podcast/Twitter/radio bad boy?

 

Probably. For personalities like him, it's about the attention, not the money.

[G-Snarls]

Probably. For personalities like him, it's about the attention, not the money.

 

If he likes Asian chicks he might be able to pitch in Japan

[Krylian]

Long term what is it going to do for him though

 

After an eventual fine and suspension the Dodgers will release him.

 

No team wants him and the baggage at that point and I'm sure he knows that. So he'll take the money owed to him and run? Be a podcast/Twitter/radio bad boy?

 

Podcast will be called,

 

Rough Sex Is Not For The Timid

[G-Snarls]

Didn't see this posted... lmao, imagine!

 

 

That's hilarious though cause he'll never throw another pitch for the Dodgers because they have a higher standard

[Spanky__99]

I guess blatantly cheating using sticky stuff to enhance spin rates doesn't violate Dodger standards.

 

That's a satire twitter account, lol. It got me for a minute, also. It's fake.

[max silver]

That's a satire twitter account, lol. It got me for a minute, also. It's fake.

 

Thanks, that makes way more sense as Bauer would need to have zero self awareness to actually tweet out something like that, especially given the fact that it seems even his Dodger teammates don't want him playing for the Dodgers moving forward.

[connorp]

Thanks, that makes way more sense as Bauer would need to have zero self awareness to actually tweet out something like that, especially given the fact that it seems even his Dodger teammates don't want him playing for the Dodgers moving forward.

 

I kind of thought that was the troll. Bauer having self-awareness and tweeting that

[Carlos Danger]

in Singapore while getting a handjob from a trans midget with a lisp and didn't leave a tip.

 

 

Are you supposed to leave a tip? Asking for a friend....

[Dick_Pole]

Definitely doesnÂ’t care about morality if he chose Shilling... I donÂ’t understand these guys. How do they defend these insane ballots?

 

WTF did Schilling do that's so bad? He has political opinions people don't like and sometimes acts like a troll online. He didn't go around beating or raping women.

[Dick_Pole]

Regarding the Bonds versus Clemens thing...well AT LEAST he has Bonds right. Give him credit for that.

[L54]

WTF did Schilling do that's so bad? He has political opinions people don't like and sometimes acts like a troll online. He didn't go around beating or raping women.

 

He has no morals

 

Orange man bad

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Are you supposed to leave a tip? Asking for a friend....

 

Only if they circumcise you.

[Brownie19]

Is this the "new thing"? Veterans committee electing solid, but not HOF players into the HOF?

[Spanky__99]

Is this the "new thing"? Veterans committee electing solid, but not HOF players into the HOF?

 

Yup, stupid.

[Brownie19]

Yup, stupid.

 

I mean is this the Harold Baines effect? If Harold's in, then so should Gil Hodges, Tony Oliva and Minnie Minoso? WTF? I'm OK with Kaat getting in...

 

Is Minoso in because he's the first Cuban player to play in the bigs? Why would Hodges and Oliva get in over Dick Allen? Allen is the 18th best hitter of all time with over 60 career WAR, while Hodges and Oliva are around 40 career WAR. This is so bizarre. I hope these head scratching, moronic decisions aren't an annual thing.

 

I guess it's good to know some of my favourites like Fred McGriff, Carlos Delgado, David Wright, Evan Longoria and Russell Martin will all be HOFers now too.

 

Not to mention these players, who were all better than Hodges and Oliva:

 

- Tony Phillips

- JD Drew

- Mark Grace

- Mark Teixeria

- Johnny Damon

- Josh Donaldson

- Ben Zobrist

- Jose Reyes

- Jose Canseco

 

What a joke.

[The_DH]

I mean is this the Harold Baines effect? If Harold's in, then so should Gil Hodges, Tony Oliva and Minnie Minoso? WTF? I'm OK with Kaat getting in...

 

Is Minoso in because he's the first Cuban player to play in the bigs? Why would Hodges and Oliva get in over Dick Allen? Allen is the 18th best hitter of all time with over 60 career WAR, while Hodges and Oliva are around 40 career WAR. This is so bizarre. I hope these head scratching, moronic decisions aren't an annual thing.

 

I guess it's good to know some of my favourites like Fred McGriff, Carlos Delgado, David Wright, Evan Longoria and Russell Martin will all be HOFers now too.

 

Not to mention these players, who were all better than Hodges and Oliva:

 

- Tony Phillips

- JD Drew

- Mark Grace

- Mark Teixeria

- Johnny Damon

- Josh Donaldson

- Ben Zobrist

- Jose Reyes

- Jose Canseco

 

What a joke.

 

The Hall of Fame is not meant for the best players, just the more famous. I still think Pete Rose belongs in the Hall as a player (not as a manager). It's like the All Star game. It's not the best of the best, it's the popular. Sometimes they are the best, but not necessarily.

[Brownie19]

The Hall of Fame is not meant for the best players, just the more famous. I still think Pete Rose belongs in the Hall as a player (not as a manager). It's like the All Star game. It's not the best of the best, it's the popular. Sometimes they are the best, but not necessarily.

 

I don't really agree with that. There are some exceptions of course, but I thought in general the MLB HOF was always one of the very best.

[The_DH]

I don't really agree with that. There are some exceptions of course, but I thought in general the MLB HOF was always one of the very best.

 

I agree it is generally one of the best but it is not the Hall of the Best of the Best. It's the Hall of the Best of the Best who were politically woke and didn't get accused of doing anything dodgy. Any player who was the best during his time on the field should be included. If a guy was on roids, then he should have been out of the game. Not for HOF voters to judge.