Around Baseball 2021

[Abomination]

He got a little more than I thought he would.

[TwistedLogic]

Anthopoulos' track record on extensions/re-signings should be framed and hung in the Louvre. Our big Greek boy absolutely ravaged Acuna and Albies on those early 2019 extensions.

[z3r0s]

They seem to work out more than not. What are the bad examples? Singleton and probably Kingery? But neither of those were crippling.

[Dr. Dinger]

O/U on days before Acuna fires his agent?

 

I'm curious if anyone here knows, when do agent commissions get paid? Annually or up front? So if for example, Acuna's agent got 5% of his deal, is he getting that money each year as a percentage of salary, or is it more like a realtor where he gets his whole slice when the deal closes? I assume in either case, that money is locked in to the agent who brokered the deal, regardless of whether they are fired subsequently.

[Laika]

I'm curious if anyone here knows, when do agent commissions get paid? Annually or up front? So if for example, Acuna's agent got 5% of his deal, is he getting that money each year as a percentage of salary, or is it more like a realtor where he gets his whole slice when the deal closes? I assume in either case, that money is locked in to the agent who brokered the deal, regardless of whether they are fired subsequently.

 

Agents have a deal directly with the players, so it depends on the player-agent contract. MLB is not allowed to pay agents directly.

 

Generally the player will pay his agent after he receives salary. Sometimes this is an annual lump sum and sometimes it is a few installments per year, depending on the player-agent contract.

 

Acuna could fire his agent today and hire Jay Z but the agent who negotiated the $100M contract likely still gets his cut going forward as Acuna is paid, based on the terms of the player-agent contract.

[BTS]

I'm curious if anyone here knows, when do agent commissions get paid? Annually or up front? So if for example, Acuna's agent got 5% of his deal, is he getting that money each year as a percentage of salary, or is it more like a realtor where he gets his whole slice when the deal closes? I assume in either case, that money is locked in to the agent who brokered the deal, regardless of whether they are fired subsequently.

 

I don't know the answer to this, but Luba was all over the Tatis deal on Twitter. His agency gets $17M even if he doesn't require much from them at all over the next 14 years. Her model is to charge her clients an hourly rate, instead of taking 5% of the value of their contracts.

[Brownie19]

I don't know the answer to this, but Luba was all over the Tatis deal on Twitter. His agency gets $17M even if he doesn't require much from them at all over the next 14 years. Her model is to charge her clients an hourly rate, instead of taking 5% of the value of their contracts.

 

I think real estate agents should follow suit. For the most part they make a killing based off old outdated practices.

[burlingtonbandit]

I think real estate agents should follow suit. For the most part they make a killing based off old outdated practices.

 

Commissions are high but that industry is so competitive and you'll have a lot of professional time wasters where you put in hours of work and the client never buys anything and the agent doesn't get anything.

[King]

 

This is very funny to me and not entirely surprising

[King]

 

Good point here from Loupdogg

[G-Snarls]

Wait what?! The A's can afford an 11M closer???

[G-Snarls]

O/U on days before Acuna fires his agent?

 

Too late now!

[BTS]

 

This is very funny to me and not entirely surprising

 

This is how I feel when MikeM is sniffing around one of my players.

[Laika]

This is how I feel when MikeM is sniffing around one of my players.

 

Ah I was going to say the same thing. Not MikeM but remember playing with Cyborg? Yeesh.

[Dr. Dinger]

Ah I was going to say the same thing. Not MikeM but remember playing with Cyborg? Yeesh.

 

Doesn't he work for the Rays now? lol

[King]

Last I heard he was locked up for public masturbation. Apparently, he started to lose his marbles a bit. Not uncommon for people on this board (from stories I've heard through the grapevine).

 

He did have a meltdown here before his account was deleted by the mods.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Too bad about Rosenthal but I guess it was a pipe dream to hope the Jays would throw that kind of money at another right handed reliever when they already have Yates, Dolis, Romano, Phelps and a bunch of other potential right handed options as well.

[xposbrad]

Anthopoulos' track record on extensions/re-signings should be framed and hung in the Louvre. Our big Greek boy absolutely ravaged Acuna and Albies on those early 2019 extensions.

 

It's going to allow the Braves to be a top 8 team for quite a while.

[Pendleton]

https://www.radio.com/weei/sports/red-sox/life-has-come-full-circle-for-new-red-sox-josh-winckowski

 

Winky article

[Brownie19]

Too bad about Rosenthal but I guess it was a pipe dream to hope the Jays would throw that kind of money at another right handed reliever when they already have Yates, Dolis, Romano, Phelps and a bunch of other potential right handed options as well.

 

I think we all knew he was going to sign somewhere where he can be the closer. That wasn't going to be Toronto.

[Boxcar]

They seem to work out more than not. What are the bad examples? Singleton and probably Kingery? But neither of those were crippling.

 

I did a rough estimation, as I'm bad at math, but I deduced that Tatis would likely make a bit over 50 million in his next 5 years of team control that are being waived in lieu of this contract. So, essentially, this can be viewed as an approx 9/290 ish contract, amounting to a bit over 30 million per year.

 

Seems unnecessary.

 

I just want to point out that this, imo, doesn't make the Acuna contract bad, this contract is horribly one sided. You make a deal like this to trade risk on a long term deal for potential savings. Unless they are expecting the next Alex Rodriguez here, I don't really see much upside financially for San Diego. Dumb contract from a dumb team.

[G-Snarls]

I think we all knew he was going to sign somewhere where he can be the closer. That wasn't going to be Toronto.

 

Can't wait to watch Yates

[BTS]

[King]

 

Jesus Christ

[Captain Adama]

Jesus Christ

 

That is one of the biggest embarrassments in baseball. MLB needs to severely penalize ownership for this.

[BTS]

Jesus Christ

 

That is one of the biggest embarrassments in baseball. MLB needs to severely penalize ownership for this.

 

Imagine representing the A's and having to float this to player agents. Would be humiliating.

[G-Snarls]

Imagine representing the A's and having to float this to player agents. Would be humiliating.

 

Semien was even worse. They wanted him to defer almost all his money and for way longer than this.

 

Edit: Yeah for *10 YEARS*

 

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/28/the-as-bizarre-offer-to-marcus-semien-speaks-volumes-about-the-teams-direction/

[Laika]

Imagine representing the A's and having to float this to player agents. Would be humiliating.

 

I dunno, it's not that hard.

"This is the equivalent of 1/$10M to you but we have a payroll limit and have to offer it like this"

[Grant77]

That is one of the biggest embarrassments in baseball. MLB needs to severely penalize ownership for this.

 

Why? Rosenthal didn't have to take the deal.

[Deadpool]

Semien was even worse. They wanted him to defer almost all his money and for way longer than this.

 

Edit: Yeah for *10 YEARS*

 

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/28/the-as-bizarre-offer-to-marcus-semien-speaks-volumes-about-the-teams-direction/

 

GMs in 2040 are going to be like "well, after we finish paying guys who have been dead for a decade, our payroll is $12..."