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Blue Jays acquire Ross Stripling from the Dodgers for Kendall Williams, PTBNL


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Hopefully no one more than Otto Lopez or Patrick Murphy.

 

Maybe but the Dodgers tried trading him along with a year of Joc Pederson this offseason to the Angels and the return was pretty meh. Add in a s*** start to the year for Stripling and no Pederson and it may not have cost us that much after all.

 

I'd be ok losing any of below only, if we're looking at the Top 30.

 

Otto Lopez

Dasan Brown

Will Robertson

Yennsy Diaz

Chavez Young

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I will guess Otto Lopez and Kloff.

 

But maybe that's a bit light.

 

Really hope we didn't deal Kloff.

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Really hope we didn't deal Kloff.

 

3 more years of Ross Stripling. It's going to be a prospect of that value.

 

Will Robertson, Yennsy Diaz and Chavez Young have only marginal value.

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Hopefully the down year for Stripling reduced the outgoing prospect a little bit. If he continues with the 3 hr/9 it's going to be hard for him to provide any value.
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Hopefully the down year for Stripling reduced the outgoing prospect a little bit. If he continues with the 3 hr/9 it's going to be hard for him to provide any value.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that 3HR per 9 is going to come down...lol.

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If the price for Stripling was one of our top 10 prospects then surely Atkins would have pivoted to a cheaper pitcher like Minor. I think he was going to lose his roster spot in Los Angeles and they moved him for whatever was available.
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If the price for Stripling was one of our top 10 prospects then surely Atkins would have pivoted to a cheaper pitcher like Minor. I think he was going to lose his roster spot in Los Angeles and they moved him for whatever was available.

 

Combined with the fact that the return for him and Pederson before the Angels backed out of that deal wasn’t too spectacular (Luis Rengifo and a couple PTBNL?), you may have a point. I don’t think we gave up any of our Top 10 prospects regardless, but I’m hoping it’s some expendable pieces and not anyone we’ll regret giving up in a couple years. Dodgers always seem to find diamonds in the rough though. They got Josiah Gray for 1 year of Puig from the Reds, and he’s trended significantly ever since. Also makes you wonder why the Dodgers seem so keen on moving Stripling? He’s been very respectable these last couple of years. Slightly above average in terms of results and a solid mid rotation guy with the potential to be better.

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Combined with the fact that the return for him and Pederson before the Angels backed out of that deal wasn’t too spectacular (Luis Rengifo and a couple PTBNL?), you may have a point. I don’t think we gave up any of our Top 10 prospects regardless, but I’m hoping it’s some expendable pieces and not anyone we’ll regret giving up in a couple years. Dodgers always seem to find diamonds in the rough though. They got Josiah Gray for 1 year of Puig from the Reds, and he’s trended significantly ever since. Also makes you wonder why the Dodgers seem so keen on moving Stripling? He’s been very respectable these last couple of years. Slightly above average in terms of results and a solid mid rotation guy with the potential to be better.

 

The Dodgers are a fantastic team, and in order to keep fantastic players, they have to get rid of good players. Stripling was likely superfluous for the Dodgers, and as Grant said above it's possible that they just didn't have a roster spot for him anymore.

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Also makes you wonder why the Dodgers seem so keen on moving Stripling? He’s been very respectable these last couple of years. Slightly above average in terms of results and a solid mid rotation guy with the potential to be better.

 

Ks down, HRs up, Dodgers are probably selling high in their opinion. I don't see this like Estrada where we saw some solid underlying metrics and stole him from the Brewers.. Maybe I am cynical, but the Dodgers aren't the Brewers.. If we get him for cheap there is a reason IMO, not just roster space. For the cost that I hope is low, I would have done it also, *maybe LOL... But, coming to the AL East...... Def gamble IMO.

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3 more years of Ross Stripling. It's going to be a prospect of that value.

 

Will Robertson, Yennsy Diaz and Chavez Young have only marginal value.

 

Two more years. He's a FA in 2023 according to fangraphs.

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Stripling's velocity and spin are as good now as they were in prior years. He was a productive pitcher 2016 through 2019 - an above average SP by talent. This year the results are way down. I wonder if he is tipping his pitches, or something like that.

 

Anyway, he should be worth less than he was in the offseason when him, Joc Pederson, and Andy Pages were nearly packaged for Luis Rengifo and prospect(s).

 

We can't evaluate that failed trade because we don't know the Angels prospect(s) that would have filled it out but keep in mind that Rengifo was a controllable MIF with good projections so it's not like Stripling had low value last offseason.

 

I am assuming Toronto has given up one prospect that people will be disappointed to see revealed. Maybe someone like Williams or Pardinho. Highly doubt it's anybody who is a slam-dunk top 10 guy though (Pardinho shouldn't be post-surgery; Williams might sneak into the top 10 on some lists). Or maybe a pair of fan favourite sleepers like Otto Lopez and Sem Robberse.

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Stripling's velocity and spin are as good now as they were in prior years. He was a productive pitcher 2016 through 2019 - an above average SP by talent. This year the results are way down. I wonder if he is tipping his pitches, or something like that.

 

Anyway, he should be worth less than he was in the offseason when him, Joc Pederson, and Andy Pages were nearly packaged for Luis Rengifo and prospect(s).

 

We can't evaluate that failed trade because we don't know the Angels prospect(s) that would have filled it out but keep in mind that Rengifo was a controllable MIF with good projections so it's not like Stripling had low value last offseason.

 

I am assuming Toronto has given up one prospect that people will be disappointed to see revealed. Maybe someone like Williams or Pardinho. Highly doubt it's anybody who is a slam-dunk top 10 guy though (Pardinho shouldn't be post-surgery; Williams might sneak into the top 10 on some lists). Or maybe a pair of fan favourite sleepers like Otto Lopez and Sem Robberse.

 

Of the names I think are possible, I'd be most upset with Dasan Brown, mainly because I like his upside and feel he hasn't been around long enough to get a grasp of what he'll become. That being said, he could very easily turn into Jonathan Davis and nothing of value would have been lost.

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In the midst of all this, I totally forgot about TJ Zeuch. I’m hoping he’s the main piece here and the Dodgers are enamoured with his sinker out of the pen or something.
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In the midst of all this, I totally forgot about TJ Zeuch. I’m hoping he’s the main piece here and the Dodgers are enamoured with his sinker out of the pen or something.

 

He's on the 60 man, and wouldn't be a PTBNL because of that.

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Stripling's velocity and spin are as good now as they were in prior years. He was a productive pitcher 2016 through 2019 - an above average SP by talent. This year the results are way down. I wonder if he is tipping his pitches, or something like that.

 

Anyway, he should be worth less than he was in the offseason when him, Joc Pederson, and Andy Pages were nearly packaged for Luis Rengifo and prospect(s).

 

We can't evaluate that failed trade because we don't know the Angels prospect(s) that would have filled it out but keep in mind that Rengifo was a controllable MIF with good projections so it's not like Stripling had low value last offseason.

 

I am assuming Toronto has given up one prospect that people will be disappointed to see revealed. Maybe someone like Williams or Pardinho. Highly doubt it's anybody who is a slam-dunk top 10 guy though (Pardinho shouldn't be post-surgery; Williams might sneak into the top 10 on some lists). Or maybe a pair of fan favourite sleepers like Otto Lopez and Sem Robberse.

 

I've noticed Stripling has been generating far fewer groundballs compared to usual, and a crazy amount of the extra ensuing flyballs he's allowing are leaving the park as home runs. For some reason his 4 seamer is getting absolutely torched this year, the movement profile looks to be a bit different with less pitches on the edges of the plate. The slider has also been hit pretty hard as well, the heat maps show him leaving a lot of sliders in the middle of the zone so no surprise there. I wonder if he's been battling through some sort of injury affecting his command, he's just far more hittable than usual with less swings and misses and weak contact generated.

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The Dodgers identified the player they will make a star and got a lottery ticket. Butt clenched.

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So the Dodgers got one prospect they like and then another prospect that couldn't even meet the low threshold of "liking." That second guy must really suck.

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I've noticed Stripling has been generating far fewer groundballs compared to usual, and a crazy amount of the extra ensuing flyballs he's allowing are leaving the park as home runs. For some reason his 4 seamer is getting absolutely torched this year, the movement profile looks to be a bit different with less pitches on the edges of the plate. The slider has also been hit pretty hard as well, the heat maps show him leaving a lot of sliders in the middle of the zone so no surprise there. I wonder if he's been battling through some sort of injury affecting his command, he's just far more hittable than usual with less swings and misses and weak contact generated.

 

Maybe it's just hard to pitch when you know your organization doesn't want you anymore. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

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Keegan Matheson

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The #BlueJays send RHP Kendall Williams to the Dodgers as one of the two PTBNL in the Ross Stripling deal.

 

Keegan Matheson

@KeeganMatheson

 

Kendall Williams, 20, was the #BlueJays 2nd-round pick in 2019.

 

He's ranked as Toronto's No. 13 prospect by @MLBPipeline. Lots of upside to Williams and plenty of physical projection at 6-foot-6.

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bluejays.com transactions page has 1 PTBNL going each way. Typo?

 

08/31/20 Los Angeles Dodgers traded RHP Ross Stripling and Player To Be Named Later to Toronto Blue Jays for Player To Be Named Later.

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Williams is a more significant prospect than I would have expected. I'm not a big fan of this deal any more, but it's alright.

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