Blue Jays acquire Ross Stripling from the Dodgers for Kendall Williams, PTBNL

[Laika]

It's interesting because Stripling projects to give you 2.9 and 3.4 WAR over 170 innings in 2018/2019. That's top 30-40 in baseball for starting pitchers.

 

Anyone know why the Dodgers limited his starts/innings so much? Just because their staff was so deep and good? He's been used kinda of similar to Kenta Maeda (although Maeda was a shut down setup man in the playoffs, while Stripling was more of a low leverage guy).

 

We can only hope that once he escapes LA, he flourishes like Maeda has this year for the Twins.

 

I think he had minor injuries in a couple of those seasons but it was mostly the Dodgers' rotation depth.

[43211234]

It's crazy that Simeon Woods Richardson is younger than Kendall Williams.

[BlueRocky]

Musgrove, but I have a feeling the price for him was higher than Williams. 3 years younger and coming off a 3.3 WAR season in 170 innings.

 

Musgrove is definitely more expensive, hence why the deal fell through on the eleventh hour.

 

Stripling was also on the trade block for longer and the emergence of Gonsolin made him more expendable. As we all come to know, the Dodgers are stacked.

 

You have to trade someone worth a f*** to get Stripling. Simple as that.

 

This is correct.

 

There’s also no need for fans to throw shade at Kendall now that he’s traded. It was a good deal for both sides. If he ever becomes a mid-rotation starter for the Dodgers, that’s terrific. The Jays weren’t willing to wait 4 years to find out. They want to win now, not in 2025.

 

The Dodgers have targeted Kendall Williams since the 2019 draft, just like the Jays targeted Simeon Woods-Richardson in the 2018 draft.

 

The farm is still intact and we have other pitching prospects.

Edited September 1, 2020 by BlueRocky

[Jonn]

Oh it’s Kendall Williams that one stings quite a bit. I knew had to move someone of significance because of Stripling’s control but man does it not feel good giving away 6’6 Flamethrower with projection. He was a guy that might be #13 now but now but would have quickly made his way much higher on the list. The fact that he was #13 and only has like 16 professional innings under his belt is impressive in itself. These ones always make you a bit nervous.

 

Lets hope Stripling’s struggles were a blip on the radar. Dodgers organization is smart though. You wonder if they make this trade if they think hes the type of pitcher he has been. Especially considering they have already lost a lot of its rotation depth. They must be extremely high on Williams.

[BlueRocky]

Ross Stripling is pretty legit for a buy low candidate with club control. I think it’ll take less work to “fix” his issues (mostly attributed to pitch mix and sequencing) compared to Robbie Ray, which has fundamental mechanical issues.

[King]

Oh it’s Kendall Williams that one stings quite a bit. I knew had to move someone of significance because of Stripling’s control but man does it not feel good giving away 6’6 Flamethrower with projection. He was a guy that might be #13 now but now but would have quickly made his way much higher on the list. The fact that he was #13 and only has like 16 professional innings under his belt is impressive in itself. These ones always make you a bit nervous.

 

Lets hope Stripling’s struggles were a blip on the radar. Dodgers organization is smart though. You wonder if they make this trade if they think hes the type of pitcher he has been. Especially considering they have already lost a lot of its rotation depth. They must be extremely high on Williams.

Not at all. Friedman said that they wanted to make room in the rotation for Gonsolin and didn't want to do the whole long reliever/spot starter shuffle thing with Stripling again like they have done with him before (and Maeda, Urias etc).

 

Completely fair move, I think it's a bad look for the organization if you keep someone around in a role they shouldn't be in. Stripling deserves to start every 5th day much like Maeda did.

[Jonn]

Not at all. Friedman said that they wanted to make room in the rotation for Gonsolin and didn't want to do the whole long reliever/spot starter shuffle thing with Stripling again like they have done with him before (and Maeda, Urias etc).

 

Completely fair move, I think it's a bad look for the organization if you keep someone around in a role they shouldn't be in. Stripling deserves to start every 5th day much like Maeda did.

 

If that’s the case fine. But if someone gets hurt he would be the guy I would want to jump in the rotation. Dodgers are putting a lot of faith in 3 kids in that rotation. But if they made this move to do right by Stripling I think that’s cool. They made out pretty well either way.

[L54]

Great move honestly. Adding a guy with two additional years of control is a pretty big deal for this club. The rotation looks like it’s one addition away in the offseason from being set for 2021 and Ross is never going to eat up a bunch of cash.

[connorp]

Tuition at IMG (where KW went) for High School is 85k/yr. Sure they give elite guys like him full ride though

[BTS]

Great move honestly. Adding a guy with two additional years of control is a pretty big deal for this club. The rotation looks like it’s one addition away in the offseason from being set for 2021 and Ross is never going to eat up a bunch of cash.

 

I know these things never really work out the way you hope, but right now there are least 4 in-house options that look like slam dunks for the 2021 rotation in Ryu, Pearson, Anderson, and Stripling. And I’m guessing they’ll be looking to add to the front of that.

 

I’m guessing they’d undo the Roark contract if they could.

[Jonn]

Tuition at IMG (where KW went) for High School is 85k/yr. Sure they give elite guys like him full ride though

 

I’m sure they have a scholarship program of some sort. But its a school for rich kids for parents who think their young ones are going to be stars.

[L54]

I know these things never really work out the way you hope, but right now there are least 4 in-house options that look like slam dunks for the 2021 rotation in Ryu, Pearson, Anderson, and Stripling. And I’m guessing they’ll be looking to add to the front of that.

 

I’m guessing they’d undo the Roark contract if they could.

 

Ya but they needed innings in the worst way. That’ll happen.

 

With those four guys under contract it makes their job this winter a lot easier. Go sign someone to slot between Ryu and Pearson. Depth will be fine, adding one more above average SP gives them a pretty good rotation.

 

Then it will be about finding someone to play third. That is a massive sore spot on this roster. At least the minors are full of guys playing on the left side.

[Jimcanuck]

Ya but they needed innings in the worst way. That’ll happen.

 

With those four guys under contract it makes their job this winter a lot easier. Go sign someone to slot between Ryu and Pearson. Depth will be fine, adding one more above average SP gives them a pretty good rotation.

 

Then it will be about finding someone to play third. That is a massive sore spot on this roster. At least the minors are full of guys playing on the left side.

 

Stroman would be ideal

[gruber92]

Stroman would be ideal

 

Thank God you're not the GM.

[King]

Thank God you're not the GM.

How's Biagini doing these days?

[BTS]

Stroman would be ideal

 

Bauer would be ideal. Stroman would be adequate.

[wilko]

How's Biagini doing these days?

 

[jaysguy44]

Stroman would be ideal

Gross

[TheHurl]

Tuition at IMG (where KW went) for High School is 85k/yr. Sure they give elite guys like him full ride though

 

No one gets a scholarship at IMG Academy

[Deadpool]

Since Joe Musgrove has come up in this thread, I don't think anyone considers him "the one that got away" from the Jays. I think in 7 or 8 years we'll look back on trading Williams much the way we look back at trading Musgrove. "Would be nice to still have him, but oh well..."

[Grant77]

Ross Atkins makes it pretty clear in this interview that Kendall Williams was not one of their top 15 prospects and none of the other traded players were either.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/tim-and-sid/ross-atkins-sees-opportunities-help-new-blue-jays-coming-team/

[BlueRocky]

Ross Atkins makes it pretty clear in this interview that Kendall Williams was not one of their top 15 prospects and none of the other traded players were either.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/tim-and-sid/ross-atkins-sees-opportunities-help-new-blue-jays-coming-team/

 

They value Adam Kloffenstein a lot more than Kendall Williams.

[Grant77]

They value Adam Kloffenstein a lot more than Kendall Williams.

 

He doesn't explicitly say that, but I wouldn't be surprised if you are right. I've always believed that GMs place less value on low level pitching prospects than the public rankings would suggest.

[BlueRocky]

They didn't feel a need to go ALL-IN and trade away top prospects to win this year.

Save those bullets for next the two years if this team is for real (90+ win team).

Add in free agency and cleanup some of these little league mistakes before they contend for real.

The talent in this lineup is pretty good, they just need some experience under their belt and possibly add another elite bat to extend the batting order.

 

It definitely sounds like they investigated every possible trade candidate.

I'm actually quite okay with Stripling & Ray instead of Musgrove.

[TheHurl]

Save those bullets for next the two years if this team is for real (90+ win team).

Add in free agency and cleanup some of these little league mistakes before they contend.

 

I have said it before. i don't think either of these things will be this Front Office's thing. I think they will do a lot of shuffling around...always looking for depth and players which are undervalued by their own team. I think they will do all they can to lock up the core (although Bichette won't IMO). FA they will dip into but I struggle seeing them ever being the team that goes the extra 2 years or the $10M to get it done. Value will remain the focus unless Rogers interferes.

[itaos]

I have said it before. i don't think either of these things will be this Front Office's thing. I think they will do a lot of shuffling around...always looking for depth and players which are undervalued by their own team. I think they will do all they can to lock up the core (although Bichette won't IMO). FA they will dip into but I struggle seeing them ever being the team that goes the extra 2 years or the $10M to get it done. Value will remain the focus unless Rogers interferes.

 

Shatkins has implied in the past that they have access to a similar payroll as AA did for the playoff run. Do you think they will reach $160mm while maximizing value?

[Brownie19]

I have said it before. i don't think either of these things will be this Front Office's thing. I think they will do a lot of shuffling around...always looking for depth and players which are undervalued by their own team. I think they will do all they can to lock up the core (although Bichette won't IMO). FA they will dip into but I struggle seeing them ever being the team that goes the extra 2 years or the $10M to get it done. Value will remain the focus unless Rogers interferes.

 

what gives you the impression Bo won't get locked up? He's just too good?

[Deadpool]

what gives you the impression Bo won't get locked up? He's just too good?

 

Yeah, that struck me as odd as well, since he basically chose to be drafted by Toronto.

[Ray]

They didn't feel a need to go ALL-IN and trade away top prospects to win this year.

Save those bullets for next the two years if this team is for real (90+ win team).

Add in free agency and cleanup some of these little league mistakes before they contend for real.

The talent in this lineup is pretty good, they just need some experience under their belt and possibly add another elite bat to extend the batting order.

 

It definitely sounds like they investigated every possible trade candidate.

I'm actually quite okay with Stripling & Ray instead of Musgrove.

 

Is Musgrove actually that much better than Stripling? Musgrove is younger and has better stuff on paper maybe, but I actually prefer Stripling since he’s performed.

[TheHurl]

Maybe an injury (or his Dad working for the team) will change Bo's mind a little. But he hasn't accepted one yet. He believes very much in himself. He doesn't have a deep need for security. I don't believe he ever signs a team friendly extension...and again going back to my statement I don't see them giving him a Votto extension just to keep him unless it is after 5 years ST.