General 2018 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[JaysAllMighty]

Today's lineup

 

[intrigid]

According to BP's D3 column, the Jays are the most overachieving team in baseball right now, at +3 wins.

 

The Red Sox are only overachieving at the rate of 1.5 wins so far, despite being 17-2.

 

The Yankees seem to be the favorite for WC1, while the Jays are right in the thick of things for WC2.

 

Edit: Dunno why the forum software shrinks the images down to nothing.

 

https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/standings/

 

[John_Havok]

According to BP's D3 column, the Jays are the most overachieving team in baseball right now, at +3 wins.

 

The Red Sox are only overachieving at the rate of 1.5 wins so far, despite being 17-2.

 

The Yankees seem to be the favorite for WC1, while the Jays are right in the thick of things for WC2.

 

Edit: Dunno why the forum software shrinks the images down to nothing.

 

https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/standings/

 

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If you copy the image and upload it to a place like IMGUR, then copy tye link from there and use the command, it won't shrink

[Jimcanuck]

If you copy the image and upload it to a place like IMGUR, then copy tye link from there and use the command, it won't shrink

 

friggin hassle....

[P2F]

friggin hassle....

 

It's an extra 15 seconds.

[Dick_Pole]

Agreed. Hitters read scouting reports on new pitchers they are facing and the pitchers read the scouting report on the new hitters they are facing. I don't know if it's easier for a pitcher to read a scouting report, identify the weakness and exploit it than it is for a hitter to read a scouting report and identify the pitchers strengths and tendencies.

 

I guess the former seems a little easier (this putz can't hit breaking balls low and away - attack), which might explain why pitchers have the upper hand initially?

 

I wouldn't say it's complete ******** reasoning. It's established that a third time through the order hitters do better against the starting pitcher they have seen twice before that day. It's the same kind of concept though spread over a longer time period when switching leagues and seeing a new set of pitchers for the first time. So I'd assume the pitcher has the initial upper hand.

[John_Havok]

friggin hassle....

 

Yeah, honestly it's pretty quick. I do the MILB recaps in less than 10 minutes total with usually 12+ images

[King]

Yeah, honestly it's pretty quick. I do the MILB recaps in less than 10 minutes total with usually 12+ images

Download ShareX, screencapture program for free, and it uploads to imgur directly with forum IMG tags to copy. You can copy more than one URL at once so in all it would take less than a couple minutes to complete.

[Pendleton]

Not sure if this was posted but long time org guy Jon Berti was dealt to Cleveland for cash considerations. He'd been with the Jays since being drafted in 2011.

[Spanky99]

Not sure if this was posted but long time org guy Jon Berti was dealt to Cleveland for cash considerations. He'd been with the Jays since being drafted in 2011.

 

They're just giving him a shot, as he's blocked, MLBPA picks up on this s***, as do agents and players, well played Birds.

[Jimcanuck]

was following Berti for a while, slick fielding and very fast, hit tool just isnt there

[CraigG]

So our best hitters are:

 

- A replacement level infielder

- A backup catcher who could not hit before this year

- A guy that nobody preferred over any of our other OF'ers

 

We're in for a long season, Gents.

[Terminator]

So our best hitters are:

 

- A replacement level infielder

- A backup catcher who could not hit before this year

- A guy that nobody preferred over any of our other OF'ers

 

We're in for a long season, Gents.

 

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/tbt.gif

[Pendleton]

So our best hitters are:

 

- A replacement level infielder

- A backup catcher who could not hit before this year

- A guy that nobody preferred over any of our other OF'ers

 

We're in for a long season, Gents.

 

Our best hitter is Josh Donaldson, I can't believe I have to point that out.

[P2F]

Someone wants a ban.

[Orgfiller]

Come on BTS.

[CraigG]

Our best hitter is Josh Donaldson, I can't believe I have to point that out.

 

You mean the guy with the gibbed shoulder? And who's currently on the DL. And we don't know when he'll be back. And ranks 6th on the team in wRC+. OK thanks for the pointer.

[saskjayfan]

So our best hitters are:

 

- A replacement level infielder

- A backup catcher who could not hit before this year

- A guy that nobody preferred over any of our other OF'ers

 

We're in for a long season, Gents.

 

yeah that Teoscar Hernandez blows.....his .OPS is only .743................................................................oh wait....that's his slugging percentage.

[saskjayfan]

You mean the guy with the gibbed shoulder? And who's currently on the DL. And we don't know when he'll be back. And ranks 6th on the team in wRC+. OK thanks for the pointer.

 

so the guy that ranks 6th in wRC+ on our team and is 21% better than league average is....what was your point again? Man you're on a roll.

[BTS]

Come on BTS.

 

Fine

[Spanky99]

Geez... this Doctor that writes for Fantrax has me freaked out about Josh Donaldson.

 

APRIL 5, 2018 BY DR. MIKE TANNER LEAVE A COMMENT

 

My projected return dates are based on medical protocols, established rehabilitation guidelines, and evidence-based data. Most of the time I will not agree with the timelines given by teams, beat-writers, or others on social media.

 

Josh Donaldson

 

A quiet spring training didn’t alert many of us to the fact that Donaldson was dealing with a shoulder ailment since early March. His throw to first after a nice defensive stab, however, caused quite a stir (pictured below).

 

 

The club said he is dealing with “dead arm” and not a medical problem. Dead arm has two common causes, a SLAP lesion to the labrum or nerve irritation. A SLAP lesion can be akin to a death sentence in a third baseman, so the club telling the media that it’s not a medical problem equates to a clean MRI. So, what of the nerve irritation? Athletes describe dead arm as the arm losing all power when they bring the arm back in preparation to throw. It typically doesn’t affect their hitting much because the shoulder position doesn’t place tension on the nerves.

 

Dead arm spontaneously recovers over time and with some rest. Expect Donaldson to continue to DH a little more than Kendrys Morales owners would appreciate, but he should be fine long term. A DL stint isn’t out of the question if his velocity doesn’t return quickly, the nerve irritation responds well to rest.

 

Followed by this a few days ago... April 19th

 

Josh Donaldson – “Dead Arm”

 

As I mentioned two weeks ago, a trip to the DL wasn’t out of the question for Donaldson if his velocity didn’t return. He was hitting well, but a team is wise to rest its best player when it’s clear he isn’t healthy. Throwing under normal conditions is a symphony of well-timed muscle contractions. The injury stems from nerve irritation that disrupts the coordination and timing of the shoulder. This irritation renders the arm nearly useless when the athlete winds up in preparation to throw. Many describe losing control or strength of the arm, hence the term “dead arm.”

 

“Dead arm” can take up to two months to resolve, but I don’t believe Donaldson or the Blue Jays will have that kind of patience. Rest and a progressive throwing program to improve the coordination between the nerves and muscles will bring him back, albeit not quickly. I expect him to return in 3-5 weeks, but the worst-case scenario could include season-ending surgery if the injury doesn’t resolve over time. Estimated Return: Early to Mid-May (barring any setbacks)

 

https://www.fantraxhq.com/medical-corner-elvis-andrus-josh-donaldson-and-injury-updates/?utm_source=Master_list&utm_campaign=f5bb83885c-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_04_22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_699f3994fd-f5bb83885c-31960675

[AledmysDiaz]

If Donaldson misses significant time his value in the off-season could decline significantly

[Muck Bartinez]

Just as predicted, after 21 games, the fWAR leaders for your Toronto Blue Jays are: Teoscar Hernandez, Yangervis Solarte, and Luke Maile (with a resounding 0.6 fWAR each)!

[Grant77]

Just as predicted, after 21 games, the fWAR leaders for your Toronto Blue Jays are: Teoscar Hernandez, Yangervis Solarte, and Luke Maile (with a resounding 0.6 fWAR each)!

 

Replace Solarte with Ngoepe and I would have nailed it! Darn...

[Terminator]

Any updates on Donaldson? We need him back.

 

Will be interesting to see what happens when he does come back. If everyone remains healthy it probably comes down to Travis or Gurriel being optioned.

[Jonn]

Any updates on Donaldson? We need him back.

 

Will be interesting to see what happens when he does come back. If everyone remains healthy it probably comes down to Travis or Gurriel being optioned.

 

I hope its Travis he needs to work on both sides of the ball. Find Jesus whatever he has to do. LGJ looked excellent in his 3 game stint. Could have easily had a couple more hits. The one he hit at Stanton is gone if he got more air under it.

[z3r0s]

I'm a big Travis supporter, but if he has options, he's the guy who has to go down. Just till he finds his way at the plate. Put JD at 3B (presuming he can throw) and Solarte at 2B. Diaz at SS with Guerriel there to back up, whoever plays better sticks on the roster when Tulo comes back (we all know he will get his shot to play when/if he is healthy).

[Terminator]

I hope its Travis he needs to work on both sides of the ball. Find Jesus whatever he has to do. LGJ looked excellent in his 3 game stint. Could have easily had a couple more hits. The one he hit at Stanton is gone if he got more air under it.

 

Gurriel can play SS too which would give the roster a backup. Travis has 3 options, let him work out whatever is going on. He can get as much rest as he wants while he works on things too.

[Jonn]

Gurriel can play SS too which would give the roster a backup. Travis has 3 options, let him work out whatever is going on. He can get as much rest as he wants while he works on things too.

 

They may feel fine with Solarte playing SS in a pinch that's problem. Hes already made one start. Travis got off to an awful start last year and was incredible in May. Its hard to imagine them pulling the plug on him but it might actually be the best thing for everyone.

[Terminator]

They may feel fine with Solarte playing SS in a pinch that's problem. Hes already made one start. Travis got off to an awful start last year and was incredible in May. Its hard to imagine them pulling the plug on him but it might actually be the best thing for everyone.

 

Yeah Travis may just be a slow starter. Could also make sense to give Travis more time. Gurriel has already used an option anyway, just send him down and see if Travis gets it going by the first week of May. If he doesn't, then option him to AAA and bring up Gurriel.