Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 The journal/academia system creates direct incentives to conduct biased research or fudge results. When people here tell you irrefutably, objectively, factually that you are wrong you still can't or won't see it. Something like 50% of academic papers are never read by anyone other than review peers. Get stupid/lazy/partisan peers and it's not that hard for garbage to get published. Junk science for profit is also a huge journal issue at present https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/09/29/canadian-medical-journals-hijacked-for-junk-science.html. Do I actually think you fudge results and let bias creep into your science life? Absolutely. Abso-f***ing-lutely. I will say objectively, factually, impartially, truthfully, irrefutably, that you're a dishonest scientist. I base this entirely on your baseball forum posting history. Is it possible that you live a double life, have split personalities, and are an honest person in science? Sure. I guess. I doubt it though. This is the best post that has ever been posted on BJMB Holy crap. I am often skeptical of the "smart guys". NJH is a smart guy, let there be no doubt.
Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Let's not rule it out though. One of the great ironies of Grant's life is the following: In terms of life accomplishments and demographic measures the most similar poster to Grant is: Olerud363 1. Olerud363 has an undergraduate STEM degree from a very 'prestigious' Ontario University - check 2. Olerud363 has a masters degree in a STEM discipline - check 3. Olerud363 has spent significant time in northern Ontario and even some in Sault Ste. Marie - check 4. Olerud363 has been "published" in several scientific journals - check The difference is Olerud363 is quite aware that the scientific publication process is 25% joke, 25% infomercial, 25% honest mistakes, and maybe 25% real.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Just came in to see if anyone voted for me...whaaaaa http://i.imgur.com/FMXH6i8.gif
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 2016 Awards Best Overall Poster: Gov (also the keeper of our cherished dancing Jays undies man meme for W's) Funniest Poster:IWok (HM to BBBB whose off the wall stuff does make me chuckle) Nicest Poster:G-Snarls Best Foreign Poster: Terminator (Was great in politics thread this year in particular) Dumbest Poster: Most out of touch poster: Best Female Poster: VDub (I think she is in a race with herself, but she is good regardless) Best New Poster/Rookie Of The Year: Pendleton Comeback poster of the year: Most Annoying Poster: West Texas Forever Best Troll: There are no "best" trolls Best Mod: KingKat (most active and consistent) Best infrequent poster:L54 Thread of the year: The one Boxy started immediately after Edwin mashed the HR to beat the O's in the WC Best new board meme: Biggest disappointment (decent poster that slipped): Worst Overall Poster: Worst Troll: (Wouldn't give them the satisfaction) Staying away from the negative stuff. I think we all know what/who those issues are. Really enjoy BJMB. Its actually hard to create this list. Some very intelligent people on internet Message Board: NJH, Dinger, BTS, Int Wok, AG, Boxy, Dick_Pole, KK, Terminator, olerud etc etc. who make some pretty incredible/thoughtful baseball and OT Forum contributions. Really enjoy King and GD as young guys who contribute a lot. And what would the board be without Spanky? (presently banned again I see). Glad Gov is a mod for this year. He is active and loves the GDT so that should be helpful.
Governator Community Moderator Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Just came in to see if anyone voted for me...whaaaaa http://i.imgur.com/FMXH6i8.gif This reminds me, I might have to change my vote to Art Vandelay as the funniest poster on the board. Gets me every time.
AdamGreenwood Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 You'd think a guy that consumes so much of it would be able to handle his liquor better. Liver damage.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 I generally stay out of the high school girl yearbook threads like this, but I have to say that I'm genuinely surprised you think I'm the nicest guy here, Jim. We've gotten into some severe disagreements at times. I suppose I've just never let my frustration be all that apparent. Cheers. Anybody that goes out of his way to stand up for another, and debates disagreement without getting personal, is a gem in my books. Thats a good post ^. Agree with you on IWok's approach. You take a lot of really negative heat on the board. I don't understand it. Although we probably share the same center-left political philosophies, I often disagree with your posts. But you try not to get too personal and I do admire how you hang in there on what you believe, even if overly stubborn sometimes. Of course, you took a vicious pounding on Sanchez and.....
Inklink Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 He's no different than BBBB. Both are drunk off their ass the majority of the time, BBBB apparently drinks rum when he/she wakes up. I like Spanky but he is shitfaced by about 6 pm. I wouldn't boot either of them but when they go on tirades they should get 12 or 24 hour bans. Kind of like the village drunk being thrown in the drunk tank for the night. We need BJMB to sponsor an intervention. We can tell him we're doing a documentary on baseball fans, take him to a hotel conference room. When he opens the door it'll be all of us sitting there and we can read our prepared letters on how posting while hammered impacts us all.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 2016 Awards Best Overall Poster: Gov (also the keeper of our cherished dancing Jays undies man meme for W's) Funniest Poster:IWok (HM to BBBB whose off the wall stuff does make me chuckle) Nicest Poster:G-Snarls Best Foreign Poster: Terminator (Was great in politics thread this year in particular) Dumbest Poster: Most out of touch poster: Best Female Poster: VDub (I think she is in a race with herself, but she is good regardless) Best New Poster/Rookie Of The Year: Pendleton Comeback poster of the year: Most Annoying Poster: West Texas Forever Best Troll: There are no "best" trolls Best Mod: KingKat (most active and consistent) Best infrequent poster:L54 Thread of the year: The one Boxy started immediately after Edwin mashed the HR to beat the O's in the WC Best new board meme: Biggest disappointment (decent poster that slipped): Worst Overall Poster: Worst Troll: (Wouldn't give them the satisfaction) Staying away from the negative stuff. I think we all know what/who those issues are. Really enjoy BJMB. Its actually hard to create this list. Some very intelligent people on internet Message Board: NJH, Dinger, BTS, Int Wok, AG, Boxy, Dick_Pole, KK, Terminator, olerud etc etc. who make some pretty incredible/thoughtful baseball and OT Forum contributions. Really enjoy King and GD as young guys who contribute a lot. And what would the board be without Spanky? (presently banned again I see). Glad Gov is a mod for this year. He is active and loves the GDT so that should be helpful. Love you too, BC. Man, I can't tell you guys enough how much I love this community. There's just nothing else like this anywhere, from my experience. Also want to give a shout out to the mods who do not have an easy job but do it extremely well; knowing when to let disagreements and tangents flow and knowing when to put them to a stop. I can't think of a time off the top of my head where a mod locked a thread or banned a poster before it was warranted. Particularly KingKat. You are an awesome mod, man. I'm sorry that I occassionally make things difficult for you but know that I only have love in my heart for you, big guy.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 I loved this community too until I realised my contributions are s*** and not respected by my peers. Screw you guys.
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 I loved this community too until I realised my contributions are s*** and not respected by my peers. Screw you guys. Speaking as the current Best Poster and Funniest Poster, you should try harder in 2017. The Forum Poster Awards are pretty exclusive, and very serious. You can't just be a solid normal poster of average frequency and expect to get any votes. Try being being more controversial next year, or try increasing that post count threefold.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 I loved this community too until I realised my contributions are s*** and not respected by my peers. Screw you guys. fine you big baby... Best Overall Poster: Brownie19 Funniest Poster: Brownie19 Nicest Poster: Brownie19 Best Foreign Poster: Brownie19 Dumbest Poster: Brownie19 Most out of touch poster: Brownie19 Best Female Poster: Brownie19 Best New Poster/Rookie Of The Year: Brownie19 Comeback poster of the year: Brownie19 Most Annoying Poster: Brownie19 Best Troll: Brownie19 Best Mod: Brownie19 Best infrequent Brownie19 Thread of the year: Brownie19... the thread Best new board meme: Brownie19 Biggest disappointment (decent poster that slipped): Brownie19 Worst Overall Poster: Brownie19 Worst Troll: Brownie19
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) 2016 Awards Best Overall Poster: Terminator Funniest Poster: NJH and Spanky Nicest Poster: The Hurl Best Foreign Poster: Ang Dumbest Poster: todd Most out of touch poster: jimcanuck Best Female Poster: Vdub Best New Poster/Rookie Of The Year: Gary Comeback poster of the year: Boxy Most Annoying Poster: West Texas Forever Best Troll: todd Best Mod: KingKat Best infrequent poster: Georgia Peach Thread of the year: Politics Best new board meme: Biggest disappointment (decent poster that slipped): ECJF Worst Overall Poster: the poster who thought Biagini could replace Stroman and do the same job Worst Troll: Edited December 2, 2016 by jaysblue
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Speaking as the current Best Poster and Funniest Poster, you should try harder in 2017. The Forum Poster Awards are pretty exclusive, and very serious. You can't just be a solid normal poster of average frequency and expect to get any votes. Try being being more controversial next year, or try increasing that post count threefold. Great advice from one of the best.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 The difference is Olerud363 is quite aware that the scientific publication process is 25% joke, 25% infomercial, 25% honest mistakes, and maybe 25% real. It depends though on what field you are in and the specific journal in question.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 I loved this community too until I realised my contributions are s*** and not respected by my peers. Screw you guys. The " Dark Side awaits you" ( insert Darth Vader Breathing) and we got Rum too! Lol
CHRIS Verified Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Speaking as the current Best Poster and Funniest Poster, you should try harder in 2017. The Forum Poster Awards are pretty exclusive, and very serious. You can't just be a solid normal poster of average frequency and expect to get any votes. Try being being more controversial next year, or try increasing that post count threefold. What drivel. You should be clubbed like a baby seal for offering such worthless advice.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Great advice from one of the best. I think you're a good poster fwiw
CHRIS Verified Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 What drivel. You should be clubbed like a baby seal for offering such worthless advice. Hmm, if I was really doing it right, I should have broken this post out into multiple comments.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Researchers without PhDs are almost never asked to referee on articles in reputable journals. I have a very hard time believing that a government researcher with an MSc is refereeing journal submissions. I've been asked directly once and referred by colleagues with PhDs on at least 2 occasions. It's not that uncommon when they are overseeing several projects and not directly involved in the work.
baseballsss Verified Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Man did anyone else see that burn by NJH on Grant. Damn.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) Great advice from one of the best. I think you're a good poster fwiw You are getting advice from POTY, you don't need to be addressed by a rookie Brownie. Edited December 2, 2016 by TheHurl
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 You are getting advice from POTY, you don't need to be addressed by a rookie Brownie. Hey I added "fwiw" for a reason, fine by me if that worth is zero! lol
Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 It depends though on what field you are in and the specific journal in question. Perhaps. My own experience is in medical data analysis. I've been told the same problems are in every field. It is called "p-hacking" a.k.a. cherry picking. Researchers retroactively mine data for relationships, and end up finding patterns by random chance.
Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Man did anyone else see that burn by NJH on Grant. Damn. Classic. A moment that should be honored forever.
Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 The journal/academia system creates direct incentives to conduct biased research or fudge results. When people here tell you irrefutably, objectively, factually that you are wrong you still can't or won't see it. Something like 50% of academic papers are never read by anyone other than review peers. Get stupid/lazy/partisan peers and it's not that hard for garbage to get published. Junk science for profit is also a huge journal issue at present https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/09/29/canadian-medical-journals-hijacked-for-junk-science.html. Do I actually think you fudge results and let bias creep into your science life? Absolutely. Abso-f***ing-lutely. I will say objectively, factually, impartially, truthfully, irrefutably, that you're a dishonest scientist. I base this entirely on your baseball forum posting history. Is it possible that you live a double life, have split personalities, and are an honest person in science? Sure. I guess. I doubt it though. bumping this classic to make sure everyone reads it
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Perhaps. My own experience is in medical data analysis. I've been told the same problems are in every field. It is called "p-hacking" a.k.a. cherry picking. Researchers retroactively mine data for relationships, and end up finding patterns by random chance. I am sure it happens. At least in my field it probably is less so though.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Wow! After seeing the s*** show of the last couple pages... (shakes head) this crap and gang style attacks really does sadden me!!! BJMB we are better then this, how about we prove it! Grant did not deserve that and we actually were having a nice chat till the haters came out to hate! And in fact actually only proving what we we're talking about! Grow up and Shame on you and your house! Wow, just Wow!
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 You'd think a guy that consumes so much of it would be able to handle his liquor better. Starting to like Boxy.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Really enjoy BJMB. Its actually hard to create this list. Some very intelligent people on internet Message Board: NJH, Dinger, BTS, Int Wok, AG, Boxy, Dick_Pole, KK, Terminator, olerud etc etc. who make some pretty incredible/thoughtful baseball and OT Forum contributions. Really enjoy King and GD as young guys who contribute a lot. And what would the board be without Spanky? (presently banned again I see). Glad Gov is a mod for this year. He is active and loves the GDT so that should be helpful. Great post. I love this community too. Hasn't been a day I can remember where I didn't visit the board at least a couple of times. Even when I'm on a beach I make time to check in and see what's up. I don't even bother with Twitter or anything like that for news as I know if it's being reported it'll be here. Between that aspect and the intelligent discussion generated this place is second to none as a baseball fan.
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