Can someone explain that call?

[Spanky99]

SJWs were out in full force after Gibby said "maybe we'll come out wearing dresses tomorrow" Led by Keith Law of course.

 

That cracked me up, Gibby's the best!

[Spanky99]

That is a bad comment and is one of the phrases in the handbook that MLB players are told not to use anymore. If I said that at my work I'd be down at HR (if my female co-workers who are legit National Champion athletes didn't kick the s*** out of me)

 

Oh he's going to be fined, no doubt, he just doesn't give a f***.

[closetjaysfan]

you know, as I watch the replay again it looks like he violates the utley rule for the simple fact that he slides past the bag.

[Deadpool]

you know, as I watch the replay again it looks like he violates the utley rule for the simple fact that he slides past the bag.

 

Past the bag, but not far enough that he couldn't have maintained contact if he had tried.

[Spanky99]

Past the bag, but not far enough that he couldn't have maintained contact if he had tried.

 

The link above explains the actual ruling on the call, JB got called for interference. End thread/

[Harvey_Specter]

Better to learn the lesson early on in the season. But, it's going to be interesting to see how consistent the umpires are with the call this year. We got a bad break tonight, but we'll get our share in our favor after 162.

[highhard2]

No question it was the right call for the interference reasons listed here. But let's go back to Cecil's part in the ball game. Giving up a gopher ball is not something you want from your "top" reliever. As well, Cecil has consistently finished his follow thru closer to the 3rd base line than the mound. He's in the worst possible fielding position as a result. And what of Bautista? First game of the series, he drops a fly ball that should have been caught. Second game he throws behind Kiermeir @ 1st base, who promptly takes 2nd. Tonight, he interferes with the defender and costs us the ball game. Bautista has to date been paid something like $78 million by the Jays, and now he's apparently looking for a 5 year deal worth $150 million? At his age age?? I don't think so Tim.

 

Don't forget Gibby. Everyone and their dog could see Cecil didn't have it tonight not sure how Gibby couldn't.Bringing him in wasn't the problem.Leaving him in when he looked like s*** is.Not sacrificing Pillar cost us a Run too.If you're not going to sac bunt Goins over with Pillar up and none out,down by a run,in the top of the ninth,you don't belong in the majors.

[Harvey_Specter]

If we can take a 3-1 series win in TB that would be historically fantastic. Even a split would be good considering how bad we've been in TB.

[Krylian]

Better to learn the lesson early on in the season. But, it's going to be interesting to see how consistent the umpires are with the call this year. We got a bad break tonight, but we'll get our share in our favor after 162.

 

I'm waiting to see middle infielders fake getting interfered with on double plays that they know they couldn't complete otherwise.

[SAAviour]

I don't know the Utley rule admittedly, but can't we use some common sense...try to break a guys leg your out and suspended, slide through the bag like it's always been and your out. Tap a f***ing major leaguer on the leg and allow that be an excuse for a bad throw is pathetic. Middle infielders throw to first with guys all over them every god damn game until this year. Brutal rule change.

 

Matty Moore and his left arm better be ready to battle tomorrow, I got a feeling a 10 spot is coming. The boys are pissed. God I love baseball. Wish I didn't have to work tomorrow.

159 more to go, then playoffs!!!

[Frag]

If a World Series game ended like that, there would be riots.

[burlingtonbandit]

If a World Series game ended like that, there would be riots.

 

Hell if the Jays lost Game 5 there would have been a riot in Toronto. Baseball has so many quirky things that can happen in a game.

[FrozenRopes]

He reached out and grabbed his foot. How can people not see it? That's why the decision was so quick.

[jays_fever]

Listening to Bautista's interview, he clearly meant to throw him off( Brush Forysthe) and didnt know what he was about to do or did was illegal.

 

Bautista's a pretty smart dude despite what some people think of him and puts a lot into preparing himself. From what it looks like the "new rule" wasn't not properly explained to this Jays team.

[RealAccountant]

Bautista's reach there disturbed the throwing

 

The only question is whether that play is reviewable. If it's not then MLB owes Jays an explanation.

 

However we didn't lose the game because of that. We lost the game BC the boards sweetheart reliever came in and gave up a 2 run bomb.

[Angrioter]

Bautista's reach there disturbed the throwing

 

The only question is whether that play is reviewable. If it's not then MLB owes Jays an explanation.

 

However we didn't lose the game because of that. We lost the game BC the boards sweetheart reliever came in and gave up a 2 run bomb.

 

40 outing without allow runs. Cecil is or best arm in the bullpen

[Governator]

If this is about the arm only then it's interference and the call is solely the discretion of the umpires, interference is not a reviewable play and they shouldn't be able to overturn that for the arm only. I don't understand the overturning of the call.

[Brownie19]

I don't know the Utley rule admittedly, but can't we use some common sense...try to break a guys leg your out and suspended, slide through the bag like it's always been and your out. Tap a f***ing major leaguer on the leg and allow that be an excuse for a bad throw is pathetic. Middle infielders throw to first with guys all over them every god damn game until this year. Brutal rule change.

 

Matty Moore and his left arm better be ready to battle tomorrow, I got a feeling a 10 spot is coming. The boys are pissed. God I love baseball. Wish I didn't have to work tomorrow.

159 more to go, then playoffs!!!

 

I know it's been happening forever - but why? Do we really want that in baseball? We can't interfere with a fielder trying to make a play anywhere else. You can't run over a fielder camped out under a pop fly, you can't stop him from fielding a grounder....why on earth should you be allowed to interfere when he's turning a double play?

 

I want no interference on the fielders - let them make great plays and let them be safe while doing it. If you don't want to hit into a DP - then hit better!

[Governator]

I know it's been happening forever - but why? Do we really want that in baseball? We can't interfere with a fielder trying to make a play anywhere else. You can't run over a fielder camped out under a pop fly, you can't stop him from fielding a grounder....why on earth should you be allowed to interfere when he's turning a double play?

 

I want no interference on the fielders - let them make great plays and let them be safe while doing it. If you don't want to hit into a DP - then hit better!

 

You're a soft brownie.

[Krylian]

He reached out and grabbed his foot. How can people not see it? That's why the decision was so quick.

 

Because that's not the spirit of the rule. Sliding right by him and your hand touching a foot isn't why this rule was created. Sliding 6 feet out of the basepath and taking out knees is the reason why this rule was created. That's why people are upset.

[GeorgiaPeach]

It seems like total ********. I don't know how that could possibly happen...

 

If the Rays did it to the Jays, you'd be pissed off and want interference called.

 

So it's not ********.

[G-Snarls]

It SUCKS that Bautista did it

 

The call is not ********

[Statman]

If the Rays did it to the Jays, you'd be pissed off and want interference called.

 

So it's not ********.

 

Yup. If roles were reversed and that either the umps refused to review it or that under review did not call it interference, the Jays fanbase would be furious along with John Gibbons and the rest of the players.

[TheHurl]

Yup. If roles were reversed and that either the umps refused to review it or that under review did not call it interference, the Jays fanbase would be furious along with John Gibbons and the rest of the players.

 

Yep and I don't think that the Around Baseball thread even mentioned that it happened in the Braves Nats game the day before, possibly costing the Braves the win.

[Rusty_Savage]

Bautista's reach there disturbed the throwing

 

The only question is whether that play is reviewable. If it's not then MLB owes Jays an explanation.

 

However we didn't lose the game because of that. We lost the game BC the boards sweetheart reliever came in and gave up a 2 run bomb.

 

Or because we left 11 guys on base. I wouldn't expect you, of all people, to get that though

[Brownie19]

Because that's not the spirit of the rule. Sliding right by him and your hand touching a foot isn't why this rule was created. Sliding 6 feet out of the basepath and taking out knees is the reason why this rule was created. That's why people are upset.

 

I disagree. I think a lot of people truly hate the rule simply because they hate change. How many people have already said "since I was a little kid - I was taught to do this". I think if people have the ability to subjectively look at this - why should a runner ever be able to interfere with a fielder? I mean they shouldn't right? and they don't on every other play on the infield - except the DP ball (and previously on plays at home). Why was it ever allowed on this one play? Why weren't we taught to run over an infielder who's camped under a pop fly? Who decided interference is allowed on this one play?

[Brownie19]

You're a soft brownie.

 

I guess so. I don't think the beautiful game of baseball needs violence plays like that to make it great. MLB eliminated the collision at home last year and outside of the first few times it was called early in the season - I didn't hear anyone complaining...and rightfully so. I hope the same thing happens with this DP interference rule.

[Pendleton]

Here I always thought baseball could use a bit more contact.

[Fastball21]

I disagree. I think a lot of people truly hate the rule simply because they hate change. How many people have already said "since I was a little kid - I was taught to do this". I think if people have the ability to subjectively look at this - why should a runner ever be able to interfere with a fielder? I mean they shouldn't right? and they don't on every other play on the infield - except the DP ball (and previously on plays at home). Why was it ever allowed on this one play? Why weren't we taught to run over an infielder who's camped under a pop fly? Who decided interference is allowed on this one play?

 

I think for me it sanitizes the game more, the catcher can't be in the base path anymore which I agreed with as there were some brutal collisions with runners trying to score, but this? Grab a foot and the runner is out? Come on the spirit of the rule is to protect the players not call a runner out simply because someone grabbed a foot, so for me it has nothing to do with change, some changes were needed but this was a bad call and not in the spirit of the rule plain and simple.

[Sammy225]

Listening to Bautista's interview, he clearly meant to throw him off( Brush Forysthe) and didnt know what he was about to do or did was illegal.

 

Bautista's a pretty smart dude despite what some people think of him and puts a lot into preparing himself. From what it looks like the "new rule" wasn't not properly explained to this Jays team.

 

The thing is i don't think thats under the new rule. I think that would have been under interference same as slapping at the ball or running into a fielder to impede him making a play. Did Jose stick is arm out to get a piece of Forsythe to impede him making a play???? Yes.... That constitutes runner interference.... It does not matter whether the error would of happened or not. Jose f***ed up and Jays fans would be up in arms if it was the other way around and they didn't call it.

 

Welcome to the Blue Jays fan base it is embarrassing at times like in the playoffs throwing beer on the field.