Can someone explain that call?

[metafour]

Which one is that? Could you maybe link it to me real quick?

 

[Caper]

God dammit. It was probably the right call. So ticky-tac though.

[bones10]

Hmmm, got out of my final and saw just the slide and almost had a stroke, then I saw Bautistas hand...

 

I guess it's the right call, baseball isn't a contact sport but God damn.

[closetjaysfan]

"A runner who engages in a "bona fide slide" shall not be called for interference under this Rule 6.01, even in cases where the runner makes contact with the fielder as a consequence of a permissible slide."

 

Let the debate be whether or not it was a bona fide slide. If it was, then interference is allowed.

 

Rule 6.01(a) Penalty for Interference Comment (Rule 7.08(

Comment):

A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a

fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out

whether it was intentional or not.

If, however, the runner has contact with a legally occupied base

when he hinders the fielder, he shall not be called out unless, in

the umpire’s judgment, such hindrance, whether it occurs on

fair or foul territory, is intentional. If the umpire declares the

hindrance intentional, the following penalty shall apply: With

less than two out, the umpire shall declare both the runner and

batter out. With two out, the umpire shall declare the batter

out.

 

 

comes down to whether or not it is intentional... does not appear as though it is reviewable however, which may be the Jays strongest argument if they protest.

[KinofChaos]

Again we lost because the offense s*** the bed numerous time with multiple runners on base and less then 2 outs.

[Laika]

[Boxcar]

How did I know that a good chunk of quirville would agree with this rule.

 

Probably because you're stupid and we usually think the opposite of what you do because we're mostly less stupid.

[Farm]

Rule 6.01(a) Penalty for Interference Comment (Rule 7.08(

Comment):

A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a

fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out

whether it was intentional or not.

If, however, the runner has contact with a legally occupied base

when he hinders the fielder, he shall not be called out unless, in

the umpire’s judgment, such hindrance, whether it occurs on

fair or foul territory, is intentional. If the umpire declares the

hindrance intentional, the following penalty shall apply: With

less than two out, the umpire shall declare both the runner and

batter out. With two out, the umpire shall declare the batter

out.

 

 

comes down to whether or not it is intentional... does not appear as though it is reviewable however, which may be the Jays strongest argument if they protest.

 

 

 

Could you link to that? From what I'm reading, it seems like that is for more general interference on the primary act of fielding a "batted ball." The new rules are about double-play balls/transfers at second and should supersede the rule you just quoted.

 

These are the new rules in their entirety: http://mlb.mlb.com/pa/releases/releases.jsp?content=022616

[Boxcar]

Jose Grabbed our 2nd baseman and that has always been interference. You can Challenge neighborhood calls now. I think EE Would of beaten it reguardless and hate winning our first game of the year like that.

 

Holy s***, a Rays fan. This is like bumping into a Scyther in Safari Zone.

[closetjaysfan]

Could you link to that? From what I'm reading, it seems like that is for more general interference on the primary act of fielding a "batted ball." The new rules are about double-play balls/transfers at second and should supersede the rule you just quoted.

 

These are the new rules in their entirety: http://mlb.mlb.com/pa/releases/releases.jsp?content=022616

 

 

These?

 

 

Rule 6.01

61

(

6

)

If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully

and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder

in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent

to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire

shall call the runner out for interference and also call out

the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate.

In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of

such action by a runner;

(

7

)

If, in the judgment of the umpire, a batter-runner willfully

and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder

in the act of fielding a batted ball, with the obvious intent

to break up a double play, the ball is dead; the umpire

shall call the batter-runner out for interference and shall

call out the runner who had advanced closest to the home

plate regardless where the double play might have been

possible. In no event shall bases be run because of such

interference

 

I would point out that these are also judgement calls and should be non-reviewable (though I dont consider myself any kind of authority on the rules surrounding review)

[Captain Adama]

Holy s***, a Rays fan. This is like bumping into a Scyther in Safari Zone.

 

You earned that thanks for the totally relatable pokémon reference.

[GD]

King

 

http://i.imgur.com/5NqMleq.jpg

[TheHurl]

Players are taught from day one to be aggressive when sliding into second to break up a double play, it's a grown up game and Bautista did nothing that players haven't been doing forever, it's just now this year the ump's have been told to crack down on it. The pussification of the sport continues.

 

Whether old school or anyone disagrees. Player safety has to become priority number 1 or there won't be sports anymore (either because of lawsuits from families of dead players, or just because parents don't let their kids play). It wasn't made a big deal when they found CTE in Ryan Freel, but it is the real reason that player safety rules are coming into MLB. This rule is just like any other rule now, one the players will have to be cognizant of.

[bronson44]

SJWs were out in full force after Gibby said "maybe we'll come out wearing dresses tomorrow" Led by Keith Law of course.

[King]

Sup?

[closetjaysfan]

Could you link to that? From what I'm reading, it seems like that is for more general interference on the primary act of fielding a "batted ball." The new rules are about double-play balls/transfers at second and should supersede the rule you just quoted.

 

These are the new rules in their entirety: http://mlb.mlb.com/pa/releases/releases.jsp?content=022616

 

Well, if we are talking about the utley rule (6.01(j)), the problem would still be that it is a judgement call:

 

Rule 6.01(i) -- Sliding to Bases on Double Play Attempts

If a runner does not engage in a bona fide slide, and initiates (or attempts to make) contact with the fielder for the purpose of breaking up a double play, he should be called for interference under this Rule 6.01. A "bona fide slide" for purposes of Rule 6.01 occurs when the runner:

 

(1) begins his slide (i.e., makes contact with the ground) before reaching the base;

(2) is able and attempts to reach the base with his hand or foot;

(3) is able and attempts to remain on the base (except home plate) after completion of the slide; and

(4) slides within reach of the base without changing his pathway for the purpose of initiating contact with a fielder.

 

 

A runner who engages in a "bona fide slide" shall not be called for interference under this Rule 6.01, even in cases where the runner makes contact with the fielder as a consequence of a permissible slide. In addition, interference shall not be called where a runner's contact with the fielder was caused by the fielder being positioned in (or moving into) the runner's legal pathway to the base.

 

Notwithstanding the above, a slide shall not be a "bona fide slide" if a runner engages in a "roll block," or intentionally initiates (or attempts to initiate) contact with the fielder by elevating and kicking his leg above the fielder's knee or throwing his arm or his upper body.

 

If the umpire determines that the runner violated this Rule 6.01(j), the umpire shall declare both the runner and batter-runner out. Note, however, that if the runner has already been put out then the runner on whom the defense was attempting to make a play shall be declared out.

 

 

but I want to repeat for clarity: contrary to popular belief closetjaysfan is not an expert in the area of replay rules or frankly anything else for that matter

[Effit]

That one is an improvement, King..much better than the frightful closeup. My eyes are thankful to get a break.

[King]

That one is an improvement, King..much better than the frightful closeup. My eyes are thankful to get a break.

 

Maybe I'll change it back.

[TheHurl]

SJWs were out in full force after Gibby said "maybe we'll come out wearing dresses tomorrow" Led by Keith Law of course.

 

That is a bad comment and is one of the phrases in the handbook that MLB players are told not to use anymore. If I said that at my work I'd be down at HR (if my female co-workers who are legit National Champion athletes didn't kick the s*** out of me)

[TheHurl]

Maybe I'll change it back.

 

use the other one on your dup accounts.

[o2cui2i]

Whether old school or anyone disagrees. Player safety has to become priority number 1 or there won't be sports anymore (either because of lawsuits from families of dead players, or just because parents don't let their kids play). It wasn't made a big deal when they found CTE in Ryan Freel, but it is the real reason that player safety rules are coming into MLB. This rule is just like any other rule now, one the players will have to be cognizant of.

 

the new rule is fine. this is all Jose doing something really stupid. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing and got caught.... with all the replay cameras of course he did. It happens. We've all seen worse, but he broke the rules and gave the umps no choice.

[Boxcar]

That is a bad comment and is one of the phrases in the handbook that MLB players are told not to use anymore. If I said that at my work I'd be down at HR (if my female co-workers who are legit National Champion athletes didn't kick the s*** out of me)

 

Really? I can't even imagine being able to muster a single f***. It's a nothing comment from a pissed off manager. People getting offended over nothing is so annoying, I don't really care for your defense of it.

[G-Snarls]

For those who missed it:

 

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/170622448/new-slide-rule-impacts-blue-jays-rays-ending

[closetjaysfan]

For those who missed it:

 

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/170622448/new-slide-rule-impacts-blue-jays-rays-ending

6.01

 

K, so according to that it was a 6.01 violation...

[burlingtonbandit]

Really? I can't even imagine being able to muster a single f***. It's a nothing comment from a pissed off manager. People getting offended over nothing is so annoying, I don't really care for your defense of it.

 

Agree. I can't stand people who nitpick at that crap. There's a lot worse s*** people say than that so why are you focusing all this energy on a manager who was obviously really mad. Gibby shouldn't have said it but lets not overreact and go overboard on the guy.

 

If we had a camera on us 24/7 people would find a ton of things that aren't politically correct.

[Caper]

That is a bad comment and is one of the phrases in the handbook that MLB players are told not to use anymore. If I said that at my work I'd be down at HR (if my female co-workers who are legit National Champion athletes didn't kick the s*** out of me)

 

If you are worried a girl can beat you up, then you shouldn't be saying it anyway.

[Slot Machine]

the new rule is fine. this is all Jose doing something really stupid. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing and got caught.... with all the replay cameras of course he did. It happens. We've all seen worse, but he broke the rules and gave the umps no choice.

 

Yeah. Plus, people spin things however they like. I find it pretty offensive that apparently its not acceptable for a man to wear a dress on a baseball field.

[Effit]

Yeah. Plus, people spin things however they like. I find it pretty offensive that apparently its not acceptable for a man to wear a dress on a baseball field.

 

A dress is nothing compared to what Donaldson wanted them to wear for BP.

[Cyborg]

He clearly reached but f*** if this game was last year it was a W.

[TheHurl]

If you are worried a girl can beat you up, then you shouldn't be saying it anyway.

 

Pretty much all women could beat me up, as I'm never going to fight back and my chin has never been tested but I don't think I got a good one.