General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread

[Governator]

What's funny is people thinking Hale has free reign on the club, everything still goes through Gibbons. He can't be in the dugout, that's it.

 

Hey... we can pretend

[Spanky99]

Hey... we can pretend

 

No, it's embarrassing.

[IBTrini]

I'm wanting but not expecting things to drastically improve overnight but thank f***ing god we are getting what most of us wanted before the 2016 stink ass shitshow thus far started = Jose leadoff.

 

Props to the team leaders for pushing this. It cant get worse.

 

Lets go Jays!! 2016 starts tonight.

I too am wanting but not expecting things to dramatically improve. If their plate approach does not change then juggling around the lineup will not help much. In the past they were more successful when they went with the pitch and got on base then passing it on to the next hitter. The coaches, manager, and fans have all mentioned this approach yet the hitters seem to dismiss this when they get to the plate. This ripping the ball as hard as you can while hoping it gets through the IF or trying to be the hero with HR swings at every at-bat will not cut it. Their approach to shifts are also cringe-worthy.

[bones10]

What's funny is people thinking Hale has free reign on the club, everything still goes through Gibbons. He can't be in the dugout, that's it.

 

Implying Gibbons isnt in Tijuana banging hookers

[THANOS]

 

Getting excited! All of these hits are line-drives, no dribbler BABIP hits.

[glory]

Why are people saying this if it clearly said the top 4 hitters came to management and requested this? It's not like Hale woke up and said lets shake s*** around

 

I never said it had anything to do with the lineup change.

 

Gibbons is ass as a manager. Hale can't be any worse.

[burlingtonbandit]

lol who's pitching against the Bisons.

[THANOS]

lol who's pitching against the Bisons.

 

Mike McCarthy

[Terminator]

One streak ends (losing streak at 5) and another continues (Jimmy Paredes hit streak at 3).

[Terminator]

Hey you guys MLB finally released the official Jimmy Paredes Blue Jays profile pic as you'll see to the left.

 

If you want to use it you can find it here: http://m.mlb.com/player/517370/jimmy-paredes

[Terminator]

Toronto Star: Blue Jays to give Jimmy Paredes every chance to succeed:

https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2016/05/19/blue-jays-to-give-jimmy-paredes-every-chance-to-succeed.html

 

"Paredes, the middle infielder the Jays picked up off waivers from Baltimore, is expected to see most of the playing time at second base if he continues to hit."

 

Looks like Gibbons will have a tough decision to make once Travis is back on who to start at 2B.

[burlingtonbandit]

Toronto Star: Blue Jays to give Jimmy Paredes every chance to succeed:

https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2016/05/19/blue-jays-to-give-jimmy-paredes-every-chance-to-succeed.html

 

"Paredes, the middle infielder the Jays picked up off waivers from Baltimore, is expected to see most of the playing time at second base if he continues to hit."

 

Looks like Gibbons will have a tough decision to make once Travis is back on who to start at 2B.

 

f*** off this is Juan Francisco all over again. Paredes isn't even a good hitter and he's a statue at 2nd.

[Terminator]

f*** off this is Juan Francisco all over again. Paredes isn't even a good hitter and he's a statue at 2nd.

 

In all seriousness you're probably right. I think he's got a slim chance to be a good hitter as he might have had a true talent change in his swing/approach.

 

But even so his problem is more than just that as he cannot field whatsoever. So not only does he need to prove that he can hit, he's going to have to mash to stick.

[Maahfaace]

He's an upgrade to the jays dismal bench with some sub par positional versatility.

[Stangstag]

In all seriousness you're probably right. I think he's got a slim chance to be a good hitter as he might have had a true talent change in his swing/approach.

 

But even so his problem is more than just that as he cannot field whatsoever. So not only does he need to prove that he can hit, he's going to have to mash to stick.

 

I'll gladly have Peredes as this year's Colabello.

[burlingtonbandit]

I'll gladly have Peredes as this year's Colabello.

 

At least he will only get 3 more starts and then won't be in the starting lineup.

[puphood]

Peredes is here for his bat. The only place to put Peredes's is in a pinch hitting or DH slot if last nights game is any indication of his defensive skill set. I don't see much else there when you consider that the Jays will have 3 other's fighting for the 2nd base slot and all are better defensively.

[Angrioter]

Paredes can hit, but he can't catch the ball. We don't need another DH on the 25-man roster.

[RealAccountant]

Peredes is here for his bat. The only place to put Peredes's is in a pinch hitting or DH slot if last nights game is any indication of his defensive skill set. I don't see much else there when you consider that the Jays will have 3 other's fighting for the 2nd base slot and all are better defensively.

 

It's one thing if we have a defensive 2b in the lineup who is decent bat. Even wrc 80. It's another when you have a Ryan Goins who kills just about any rallies etc.

[intentional wok]

Toronto Star: Blue Jays to give Jimmy Paredes every chance to succeed:

https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2016/05/19/blue-jays-to-give-jimmy-paredes-every-chance-to-succeed.html

 

"Paredes, the middle infielder the Jays picked up off waivers from Baltimore, is expected to see most of the playing time at second base if he continues to hit."

 

Looks like Gibbons will have a tough decision to make once Travis is back on who to start at 2B.

 

You have to think a team that is 20-23 and needed to pull out all the stops to beat the Twins in extras would have an incentive to start making smart decisions.

[BTS]

I really don't think I can handle this team pretending that Jimmy Paredes is a legitimate talent. He shouldn't even be on the team past the weekend when Travis returns.

[HERPDERP]

Paredes is bad. No discipline, no defense. Mediocre power.

[BigCecil]

I really don't think I can handle this team pretending that Jimmy Paredes is a legitimate talent. He shouldn't even be on the team past the weekend when Travis returns.

 

^ this. There is nothing to suggest this is the third coming of Jose and Edwin. He should be here until Travis is.

[Brownie19]

I like Parades versatility. I think he should stick as a bench bat when Travis returns.

 

Parades

Barney

Thole

Zeke

[Sorrow]

I like Parades versatility. I think he should stick as a bench bat when Travis returns.

 

Parades

Barney

Thole

Zeke

 

Almost needs to be that way. They won't option Zeke or Thole and Barney and Parades have no options.

[BTS]

I like Parades versatility. I think he should stick as a bench bat when Travis returns.

 

Parades

Barney

Thole

Zeke

 

Why does versatility matter when you're bad at all the things you can (notionally) do?

 

- 80 wRC+ hitter (why is the media acting like he can hit?)

- disastrous 2B defender

- disastrous 3B defender

- disastrous OF defender

- has never played any other position

 

The best you can say is that he's probably an average baserunner, but there's a reason why he's at -1.2 fWAR in his career: he doesn't have any useful MLB skills.

[Brownie19]

Why does versatility matter when you're bad at all the things you can (notionally) do?

 

- 80 wRC+ hitter (why is the media acting like he can hit?)

- disastrous 2B defender

- disastrous 3B defender

- disastrous OF defender

- has never played any other position

 

The best you can say is that he's probably an average baserunner, but there's a reason why he's at -1.2 fWAR in his career: he doesn't have any useful MLB skills.

 

I get all that and I think I was the first to question why Tabby and the Terminator kept calling him a good hitter...Perhaps I just like having someone who can play all over (even if it's poorly)...but really - who's a better option? Andy Burns?

[baseballsss]

^ this. There is nothing to suggest this is the third coming of Jose and Edwin. He should be here until Travis is.

 

There was nothing to suggest prior that JB and EE were ever going to be this good. So really he could be the third coming for all we know.

[BTS]

There was nothing to suggest prior that JB and EE were ever going to be this good. So really he could be the third coming for all we know.

 

You can say that about the thousands of replacement-level players playing in the high minors and on MLB benches. It's ridiculous to couch every statement about a bad player because a fraction of a single percentage of them will figure things out and become stars. Paredes is awful.

[baseballsss]

You can say that about the thousands of replacement-level players playing in the high minors and on MLB benches. It's ridiculous to couch every statement about a bad player because a fraction of a single percentage of them will figure things out and become stars. Paredes is awful.

 

O I know. I'm not defending having Paredes. All I was saying was that stats aren't going to tell you who the next JB and EE are. He made it sound like there is data to show us that.