Spring Training

[Angrioter]

I'm sorry this isn't the season of "protect Gavin Floyd's arm". This is the season of "Let's win it all"

 

Burn the "veteran one year sign" arm

[burlingtonbandit]

floyd is a reliever. He's been one for 3 years. Might be fun if he starts, we can start a pool for when his arm will fall off. Put me down for May 10th

 

He also said he was hurt the last few years and is feeling much better this year and wants to start. Just because a guy throws few innings the year before doesn't mean he is going to get hurt if his workload increases. The guy you are talking about in Hutch threw 180 innings a year after barely throwing any and did just fine.

[Cyborg]

The best example is always CJ Wilson. He was a reliever for 4 years and threw 73.2 IP the last year, then he went straight to 4 200+ IP seasons.

[Nafro]

Burn the "veteran one year sign" arm

 

Pretty much . I mean I'm not saying purposely jeorpadize careers. Floyd is on borrowed time, my guess is he wants to win. If he wanted to "build up his value" he signs with a s*** team,looking for SP, in a pitcher friendly park in the national league.

[Angrioter]

Pretty much . I mean I'm not saying purposely jeorpadize careers. Floyd is on borrowed time, my guess is he wants to win. If he wanted to "build up his value" he signs with a s*** team,looking for SP, in a pitcher friendly park in the national league.

... but he love Shapiro for help him last year at Cleveland.

Shapiro to Floyd 2015 "I'll sign you next year"

[burlingtonbandit]

The best example is always CJ Wilson. He was a reliever for 4 years and threw 73.2 IP the last year, then he went straight to 4 200+ IP seasons.

 

Chris Sale too.

[Angrioter]

Chris Sale too.

 

Roberto Osuna too <------- 2018 quote

[Nafro]

... but he love Shapiro for help him last year at Cleveland.

Shapiro to Floyd 2015 "I'll sign you next year...if your arm doesn't fall off.

 

Ftfy

[glory]

So if Straily for Jimenez happens, we're looking at...

 

Stroman

Dickey

Estrada

Happ

Floyd

 

Storen

Osuna

Cecil

Chavez

Straily

Choate/Venditte/Girodo

Delabar/Biagini

 

With Chavez, Danks and Straily all out of options, you pretty much have to give one of them the 5th spot and put the other two in the pen. This would pretty much guarantee Sanchez starts the season in the minors and losing at least one of Biagini or Delabar unless a trade can be swung for Biagini.

 

Rotation: Stroman, Dickey, Happ, Estrada, Floyd

Pen: Storen, Cecil, Osuna, Chavez, Straily, Biagini, Loup (or whichever lefty takes his spot)

Expose to waivers: Delabar, Leon

Keep in AAA or lose: Choate

 

It's doable. BUt yeah, in that case, you have to either put Sanchez in the pen as a full-time reliever (while losing Biagini) or in AAA as a starter.

[burlingtonbandit]

Has there been a report of the Jays even being interested in Straily or is it just speculation? I think we are jumping the gun by penciling him into the roster right now.

[Governator]

Is anyone else surprised that Osuna was not given a chance to compete for the 5th spot this Spring? I know he's been nails and still young but we blew a year of service time for him to be a reliever last year, I figured they'd start the transition this year.

[Daniel Labude]

Is anyone else surprised that Osuna was not given a chance to compete for the 5th spot this Spring? I know he's been nails and still young but we blew a year of service time for him to be a reliever last year, I figured they'd start the transition this year.

 

A lot of people in the organization believe he will be a reliever long term. They think setup or closer will be his best position for us. I don't aggree, but if true that might explain why.

[King]

Gibbons confirmed Pillar will be the Jays leadoff hitter to start the season

[BTS]

Gibbons confirmed Pillar will be the Jays leadoff hitter to start the season

 

lol

[THANOS]

Gibbons confirmed Pillar will be the Jays leadoff hitter to start the season

 

Meh, it's not like it will last long after the OBP doesn't "magically" shoot up like some expect lol. Let's just hope DT comes back soon.

[dineke]

i thought shapiro was into maths and stuff?????

[Governator]

A lot of people in the organization believe he will be a reliever long term. They think setup or closer will be his best position for us. I don't aggree, but if true that might explain why.

 

Hmm what do they base that opinion on without seeing him starting? There could be something huge there in the making.

[Governator]

i thought shapiro was into maths and stuff?????

 

Shapiro doesn't make the batting order.

[admin]

Shapiro doesn't make the batting order.

 

In the near future he just may.

[dineke]

Shapiro doesn't make the batting order.

 

so it's just a matter of time before the puppet manager comes in I assume

[Brownie19]

Hmm what do they base that opinion on without seeing him starting? There could be something huge there in the making.

 

Inverted W....

[Slot Machine]

If i remember correctly the fat kid was super meek and the little guy had been bullying him for months until he finally snapped and this happened. The kid who got slammed broke his leg.

 

Yeah, the kid couldn't even walk.

[glory]

Osuna doesn't want to start this season and doesn't have enough innings to do it anyway. My guess is when Storen and Cecil leave next season that Osuna will just be kept as closer.

[BigCecil]

Gibbons confirmed Pillar will be the Jays leadoff hitter to start the season

 

Perfect Gibby logic. We want a guy with a 93 wRC+ and the worst pitch selection in our line up starting off the order.

 

It will take the pressure off the big 4 bats who follow him not to have to drive him in.

 

And of course if he does get on, as a semi fast runner it doesn't make sense to run in front of the 4 elite bats that follow him, so we don't have to worry about him getting thrown out.

[THANOS]

Inverted W....

 

Chris Sale.

 

Also, who's dumb idea was it to call that arm motion the "inverted W", why not the "M" lol?

[Governator]

Inverted W....

 

Fair point, with his tommy jonn surgery another injury might be career ending. So much potential tho

[Spanky99]

Gibbons confirmed Pillar will be the Jays leadoff hitter to start the season

 

*facepalm*

[BTS]

Hmm what do they base that opinion on without seeing him starting? There could be something huge there in the making.

 

He's already had TJS. It might be as simple as them not trusting his mechanics to let him hold up over 180 innings. 1-3 wins in relief isn't really a bad outcome for him at all if they don't trust him to hold up for 32 starts.

[Nafro]

He's already had TJS. It might be as simple as them not trusting his mechanics to let him hold up over 180 innings. 1-3 wins in relief isn't really a bad outcome for him at all if they don't trust him to hold up for 32 starts.

 

 

 

No sentence should start with said 21 year old player doesn't want to.....

 

That being said does he have 32 starts in his professional career?

 

Just looked it up 29 professional starts, since being signed as a 16 year old.

[Nafro]

Chris Sale.

 

Also, who's dumb idea was it to call that arm motion the "inverted W", why not the "M" lol?

 

There's no intelligent sounding word in plain old "M"

 

They also could have called it "Reverse W" "Upside Down W" "Flipped over W"