Westhead: Shapiro Told Blue Jays Payroll To Be $140MM+

[Spanky99]

Who is giving you a couple of really good prospects for Edwin? Better yet what team is Edwin going to agree to go to that will fork over a couple of really good ones?

 

A lot of teams likely. I just see no reason for it in 16'.

[Spanky99]

It all depends on the contract it would take to extend him and the prospects that they could fetch in trade, so it's pointless to debate. I would support trading him in certain scenarios too.

 

Really hard to do right now with the state of the current team though. Huge chance to make another WS run in 2016 and his option is so cheap. I guess if you can get a controllable piece that would be able to contribute in 2016 too then you could pull the trigger.

 

I've said this many times. Good post.

[Spanky99]

Then let him walk and QO him.

 

I want the Jays to be done with Edwin & Jose after the 2016 season.

 

I don't see MS doing the extension here, not at all.

[GeorgiaPeach]

Who is giving you a couple of really good prospects for Edwin? Better yet what team is Edwin going to agree to go to that will fork over a couple of really good ones?

 

Edwin to the Yankees for a combination of two of the following

 

Jorge Mateo/Gary Sanchez/Ian Clarkin/Aaron Judge

 

Sign me up

[BigCecil]

So GeorgiaPeach just wants to totally dismantle this team and start over I see.

 

What's new? That's been his consistent refrain since christ was a cowboy.

[BTS]

Edwin to the Yankees for a combination of two of the following

 

Jorge Mateo/Gary Sanchez/Ian Clarkin/Aaron Judge

 

Sign me up

 

I don't see it. They have A-Rod, Tex, and Bird for 1B/DH.

[Laika]

Edwin to the Yankees for a combination of two of the following

 

Jorge Mateo/Gary Sanchez/Ian Clarkin/Aaron Judge

 

Sign me up

 

They don't have any room at 1B/DH though. ARod, Tex, Bird.

[GeorgiaPeach]

What's new? That's been his consistent refrain since christ was a cowboy.

 

I never knew Cowboys were magicians

[Laika]

The Indians would probably love EE

[BTS]

The Indians would probably love EE

 

Probably. I doubt they'd have much interest in moving one of their big arms for him though. Something around Bauer?

[GeorgiaPeach]

And with Byung-Ho Park likely on his way over soon to fill a 1B spot, it'll mean one less suitor.

[Spanky99]

Edwin to the Yankees for a combination of two of the following

 

Jorge Mateo/Gary Sanchez/Ian Clarkin/Aaron Judge

 

Sign me up

 

Lets sign Morneau, just saying, same difference.

[Spanky99]

The Indians would probably love EE

 

Or Morneau?

[Laika]

Probably. I doubt they'd have much interest in moving one of their big arms for him though. Something around Bauer?

 

I've always thought Jose Ramirez was a pretty solid MIF prospect, and underrated / overshadowed by Lindor.

 

I would like to get my hands on him (and then try to sell high on Goins!).

 

I dunno what else. Not sure how much value Bauer has, or how good he even is.

Tomlin would interest me as a 3rd piece.

Justus Sheffield is a good prospect.

McAllister would interest me as a 3rd piece.

I love Francisco Mejia's profile.

Cody Allen is elite and has three years of control left.

Tyler Naquin is completely expendable for them.

 

I'm sure something could be put together by Shapiro and his old buddies.

[thatoneguy]

Probably. I doubt they'd have much interest in moving one of their big arms for him though. Something around Bauer?

 

Throw in someone else (perhaps an OFer) and try to pull one of the big 3 over perhaps?

[GeorgiaPeach]

Lets sign Morneau, just saying, same difference.

 

I'd rather extend Edwin to a 30m per deal

[Spanky99]

I'd rather extend Edwin to a 30m per deal

 

lol... my point.

[GD]

Probably. I doubt they'd have much interest in moving one of their big arms for him though. Something around Bauer?

 

Oh wow, great fit, never thought of Bauer. High upside averageish SP with no massive injury issues (long toss #beast). How long is he under control?

[art_vandelay275]

I've always thought Jose Ramirez was a pretty solid MIF prospect, and underrated / overshadowed by Lindor.

 

I would like to get my hands on him (and then try to sell high on Goins!).

 

I dunno what else. Not sure how much value Bauer has, or how good he even is.

Tomlin would interest me as a 3rd piece.

Justus Sheffield is a good prospect.

McAllister would interest me as a 3rd piece.

I love Francisco Mejia's profile.

Cody Allen is elite and has three years of control left.

Tyler Naquin is completely expendable for them.

 

I'm sure something could be put together by Shapiro and his old buddies.

 

a lot has been said about the goodwill between the 2 clubs and the indians not blocking the 2 execs move to TO as long as it's not lateral and not asking for comp with the MS hiring; it may be a dream but if MS ever prys tito over, i wonder what would happen then; i know tito has stated publicly that he won't opt out and there's his father's ties back to the club and all that...

[BTS]

Oh wow, great fit, never thought of Bauer. High upside averageish SP with no massive injury issues (long toss #beast). How long is he under control?

 

5 more years.

[L54]

My bad. Edwin's garbage.

 

Damn casuals.

[Laika]

Oh wow, great fit, never thought of Bauer. High upside averageish SP with no massive injury issues (long toss #beast). How long is he under control?

 

Through 2020, with four arb years.

[L54]

Edwin to the Yankees for a combination of two of the following

 

Jorge Mateo/Gary Sanchez/Ian Clarkin/Aaron Judge

 

Sign me up

 

Did Tex and Bird die?

[Spanky99]

Tex is the man in NY in 16'

[crmr]

Then let him walk and QO him.

 

I want the Jays to be done with Edwin & Jose after the 2016 season.

 

I agree with Jose, but Edwin could be a solid piece if they manage to get him on a short (like 3 year) contract. Depends on what the rest of the team looks like, though.

[JaysRap]

 

Not really on-topic but my nephew did a great job I thought I'd share.

 

On-topic: I'd prefer a budget around $150 plus. A significant increase in payroll with money well spent on incoming talent is what can continue our growth in the fan base. I'd just hate to miss out on players due to some financial constraints. The revenue income between concessions, television, merchandise, etc... Re-invest it! That's what people wanna see.

[burlingtonbandit]

Aging curves need to be factored into everything, but no teams should categorically trade guys once they hit some age threshold. Case by case basis.

 

The Red Sox are probably pretty happy they didn't get rid of Ortiz when he turned 33.

 

What specifically about EE makes you want him gone, or makes you think he's going to drop off? Much like Ortiz, he seems to combine a unique level of power, patience, and contact. Same with Jose. Of course they could fall off a cliff at any point, but graceful declines are more likely IMO.

 

EE's contact rates took a pretty big decline this season so I can see the view people have of him headed for a bigger decline. Compare that with Bautista who's Whiff rate and Zone Contact% has been relatively the same each year since his breakout despite him being 35 years old now.

[GeorgiaPeach]

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Not really on-topic but my nephew did a great job I thought I'd share.

 

On-topic: I'd prefer a budget around $150 plus. A significant increase in payroll with money well spent on incoming talent is what can continue our growth in the fan base. I'd just hate to miss out on players due to some financial constraints. The revenue income between concessions, television, merchandise, etc... Re-invest it! That's what people wanna see.

 

Say the Jays upped the payroll to $150m and missed the playoffs in 2016. I would expect an exodus of fans and I really don't get that.

 

If you ask for something and it happens, and the results don't match up with expectations. How can they abandon ship after being provided with what they asked for?

[Slugger]

EE's contact rates took a pretty big decline this season so I can see the view people have of him headed for a bigger decline. Compare that with Bautista who's Whiff rate and Zone Contact% has been relatively the same each year since his breakout despite him being 35 years old now.

 

What was his line-drive rate, though? That's more important. We've seen guys like Billy Butler fall of a cliff because of that.

[Laika]

What was his line-drive rate, though? That's more important. We've seen guys like Billy Butler fall of a cliff because of that.

 

Not exactly. Butler actually had a near career high LD% last year, when he sucked. But his batted ball profile has changed. When he got bad he started hitting more groundballs. Obviously, this is terrible when you are the slowest professional athlete that isn't playing darts. BABIP fell and so did his power.

 

Anyway, nothing looks problematic in Edwin's batted ball profile.