Offseason Roster Thread

[glory]

Yeah I don't see anything about a roster move happening today.

 

Plus, it's not Friday, so there can't be a move today.

[Sorrow]

Yeah I don't see anything about a roster move happening today.

 

Plus, it's not Friday, so there can't be a move today.

 

Roster announcement could be an extension. Who knows, I haven't heard anything else anywhere so I'm inclined to discount it but could be a JD/EE/JB extension, or a Stroman extension for all we know.

[Pendleton]

Blue Jays roster announcement coming today.

 

Says who?

[Brownie19]

Says who?

 

says TDotttt2005 - his name is in the top left hand corner of his post.

[Brownie19]

If you thought Martin was good at framing before, new stats suggest he's even better.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/162681558/mlb-effect-expanded-catcher-statistics

 

I suspect the ******* who voted for Jason Kendell in the HOF vote this year didn't catch this article.

[Brownie19]

If you thought Martin was good at framing before, new stats suggest he's even better.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/162681558/mlb-effect-expanded-catcher-statistics

 

And Gibby/AA decided it would be a good idea for Martin to catch Dickey last year. Utter stupidity.

[KingKat]

And Gibby/AA decided it would be a good idea for Martin to catch Dickey last year. Utter stupidity.

 

Practically this entire board was screaming at them to trade Navarro for a reliever or something but no...

[glory]

Practically this entire board was screaming at them to trade Navarro for a reliever or something but no...

 

Navarro's clutch profressional hitting was worth a lot more than a reliever, and was definitely worth beating up the $82m investment all season.

 

Did I mention how glad I am that Shapiro and Atkins are here? If I haven't, I am.

[Angrioter]

Practically this entire board was screaming at them to trade Navarro for a reliever or something but no...

 

f***. Alex could rape Stewart trading Navarro to the Dbacks, but Gibbons loves the chubby Mexican so much

[Brownie19]

f***. Alex could rape Stewart trading Navarro to the Dbacks, but Gibbons loves the chubby Mexican so much

 

He does look good in a police hat...

[Brownie19]

Practically this entire board was screaming at them to trade Navarro for a reliever or something but no...

 

True - but there were also a lot of people who wanted him to catch Martin because that meant he wouldn't "sit" during a playoff game...You let him catch the traditional pitchers where he adds a ton of extra value (which is negated when catching Dickey).

[KingKat]

True - but there were also a lot of people who wanted him to catch Martin because that meant he wouldn't "sit" during a playoff game...You let him catch the traditional pitchers where he adds a ton of extra value (which is negated when catching Dickey).

 

I wasn't opposed to him catching Dickey especially over rostering three catchers but he struggled with it more than I expected. If you add someone like Kratz to the Bisons, I think the current setup is probably ideal. I know some will say that Martin's struggles when catching Dickey are just a small sample size aberration and that might very well be true but in the time it would take to normalize something like that, Dickey will be gone. The eye test says that it affected Martin and I'd rather err on the side of caution and assume it's a real thing. The Jays re-signing Thole to a Major League deal suggest that the braintrust sees it that way too.

[Pendleton]

says TDotttt2005 - his name is in the top left hand corner of his post.

 

Pretty weak attempt at being a smart ass. Obviously I'm asking for a source.

[Brownie19]

Pretty weak attempt at being a smart ass. Obviously I'm asking for a source.

 

TDotttt has insider info. Never question him.

[Spanky99]

Blue Jays roster announcement coming today.

 

[RealAccountant]

Pretty big risk to go into season with Thole as the main backup

[KingKat]

Pretty big risk to go into season with Thole as the main backup

 

As bad of a hitter as he is and as much as he's disliked, Thole isn't exceptionally bad for a backup catcher. What compounds the issue is that the third catcher on the 40 is Jimenez with not a whole lot behind him either. Pentecost might not even be a catcher anymore and Jansen is only 20. Chung is a solid catch and throw guy and could be an emergency 40 man roster add. A veteran catcher at AAA would be very welcome.

[jaysfan2014]

As bad of a hitter as he is and as much as he's disliked, Thole isn't exceptionally bad for a backup catcher. What compounds the issue is that the third catcher on the 40 is Jimenez with not a whole lot behind him either. Pentecost might not even be a catcher anymore and Jansen is only 20. Chung is a solid catch and throw guy and could be an emergency 40 man roster add. A veteran catcher at AAA would be very welcome.

 

Humberto Quintero is on a NRI with the Jays, if you're wondering about a veteran catcher.

[nmrch]

Pretty big risk to go into season with Thole as the main backup

 

Thole is good enough for what he's supposed to do, by definition backups aren't supposed to be good, otherwise you'd be misallocating resources.

 

We gave Martin quite a workload last year, if there isn't a plan to scale that back significantly there's no point in investing in a good backup.

Edited January 26, 2016 by nmrch

[KingKat]

Humberto Quintero is on a NRI with the Jays, if you're wondering about a veteran catcher.

 

Oh yeah... Forgot about him. I'd like to know what the Jays scout see in him. Presumably he's quiet enough behind the plate to be able to adapt to the knuckler. In the past, Nickeas has served the role of third knuckleball option (and thankfully was never needed).

[Pendleton]

TDotttt has insider info. Never question him.

 

Clearly

[RealAccountant]

Russell Martin has made the playoffs 8 out of 10 seasons with 4 different teams in 3 different divisions. The two times his teams have missed the playoffs, once when he suffered significant injury

 

People don't understand how good that is. This guy is a 8-10 WAR player when you factor in all of his contributions

[Spanky99]

Mods!

[rydermike]

In the past, Nickeas has served the role of third knuckleball option (and thankfully was never needed).

 

You mean you're forgetting that one game where he came in as a defensive replacement and didn't record an at-bat??? I did too lol, just saw it on wikipedia when I looked it up to see if he was still in baseball (The answer is no, by the way)

[Governator]

Blue Jays roster announcement coming today.

 

Where did this come from yesterday or was this just a joke?

[Grant77]

Oh yeah... Forgot about him. I'd like to know what the Jays scout see in him. Presumably he's quiet enough behind the plate to be able to adapt to the knuckler. In the past, Nickeas has served the role of third knuckleball option (and thankfully was never needed).

 

There should be some options in spring training. Just looking at last year, there was Lavarnway, Leon, Ohlman, Saltalamacchia. Not great, but fine for AAA.

[baseballsss]

Where did this come from yesterday or was this just a joke?

 

I think the dude that posted it has a reliable source that let him down. If I remember correctly hes been pretty reliable in the past.

[Jimcanuck]

There should be some options in spring training. Just looking at last year, there was Lavarnway, Leon, Ohlman, Saltalamacchia. Not great, but fine for AAA.

 

JPA? He's caught Dickey?

[Spanky99]

There should be some options in spring training. Just looking at last year, there was Lavarnway, Leon, Ohlman, Saltalamacchia. Not great, but fine for AAA.

 

Kratz makes sense.

[intentional wok]

JPA? He's caught Dickey?

 

Opening Night 2013. I know there's a highlight reel somewhere.