Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[glory]

Call me back when is at least in full season ball.

 

Actually calling back when he has been able to maintain performance through age 25 without unexplained collapses.

 

Bonilla should not come within hand shaking distance of Don Mattingly. That should be the rule.

[P2F]

Bonilla is 2 for 4 with a HR today, to go with an outfield assist.

 

I think that is 4 extra base hits in 3 games.

 

Raging Throbber Metropolis

[Eat My Shatkins]

Bonilla 2027 starting CFer 3 WAR

2028 7 WAR and MVP finalist

2029 3 WAR

2030 1 WAR

2031 0.1 WAR and DFAed

[Krylian]

Call me back when is at least in full season ball.

 

Actually calling back when he has been able to maintain performance through age 25 without unexplained collapses.

 

No. Because this team is terrible. I'm going to enjoy the little things where I can find them.

[gruber92]

Orelvis with a HR (9) so far in two at bats

 

Horwitz 1-1 with a double and a walk

[The_DH]

I used to so admire Mattingly as 1b with the Yankees. As a coach: it doesn't work.

[The_DH]

Orelvis with a HR (9) so far in two at bats

 

Horwitz 1-1 with a double and a walk

 

and 8th error. We can't have him matching homers for errors.

[Jimcanuck]

and 8th error. We can't have him matching homers for errors.

 

Stick Orelvis in LF already

[The_DH]

I could agree with that.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Two more clean innings for Pardinho today, with 2 Ks

[Grant77]

Have you guys been following Tugboat Wilkinson in the Guardians system? Cool story and Canadian too.

[Ray]

Orelvis homered again:

 

[Terminator]

Have you guys been following Tugboat Wilkinson in the Guardians system? Cool story and Canadian too.

 

I’ve seen a couple of tweets but don’t know too much about him except he’s big

[Eat My Shatkins]

Nimmala and Beltre both homered today for Dunedin. Back to back actually.

 

Nimmala

 

Exit Velocity

107mph

Distance

415ft

Launch Angle

26deg

 

Beltre

 

Exit Velocity

99.2mph

Launch Angle

38deg

 

No distance for some reason

[Krylian]

Nimmala and Beltre both homered today for Dunedin. Back to back actually.

 

Nimmala

 

Exit Velocity

107mph

Distance

415ft

Launch Angle

26deg

 

Beltre

 

Exit Velocity

99.2mph

Launch Angle

38deg

 

No distance for some reason

 

Wall scraper

 

[Eat My Shatkins]

Figured as much with that EV and LA

[Olerud363]

Nimmala and Beltre both homered today for Dunedin. Back to back actually.

 

Nimmala

 

Exit Velocity

107mph

Distance

415ft

Launch Angle

26deg

 

Beltre

 

Exit Velocity

99.2mph

Launch Angle

38deg

 

No distance for some reason

 

Beltre is going to be 20 in a month and is repeating low A. Nice to see the exit-V but Nimmala is hitting .167 with a terrible k rate.

 

This is just not what real prospects do as teenagers in low A.

 

Nimmala could turn it around but needs to do it soon, as it just seems like a first round pick shouldn't be having these kind of problems at low a.

 

Even guys that struggled a bit as teenagers but made it (Shawn Green, Alex Rios come to mind) were the .250 with no power but low k rate type. These guys that hit .200 and k 40% of the the time go no where.

[Olerud363]

Beltre is going to be 20 in a month and is repeating low A. Nice to see the exit-V but Nimmala is hitting .167 with a terrible k rate.

 

This is just not what real prospects do as teenagers in low A.

 

Nimmala could turn it around but needs to do it soon, as it just seems like a first round pick shouldn't be having these kind of problems at low a.

 

Even guys that struggled a bit as teenagers but made it (Shawn Green, Alex Rios come to mind) were the .250 with no power but low k rate type. These guys that hit .200 and k 40% of the the time go no where.

 

Take a look at Vlad/Bo/Travis Snider as teenagers... and none of them even were able to hit mlb pitching at age 25 (half kidding).

 

D.J. Davis, Toman, those types go no where. Hope to see Nimmalla turn it around, but no way to suger coat it right now.

[Orgfiller]

Nimmala and Beltre both homered today for Dunedin. Back to back actually.

 

Nimmala

 

Exit Velocity

107mph

Distance

415ft

Launch Angle

26deg

 

Beltre

 

Exit Velocity

99.2mph

Launch Angle

38deg

 

No distance for some reason

 

107 mph for an 18 year old is extremely promising. That’s like 60 raw power at least if not more given the age.

[burlingtonbandit]

Beltre is going to be 20 in a month and is repeating low A. Nice to see the exit-V but Nimmala is hitting .167 with a terrible k rate.

 

This is just not what real prospects do as teenagers in low A.

 

Nimmala could turn it around but needs to do it soon, as it just seems like a first round pick shouldn't be having these kind of problems at low a.

 

Even guys that struggled a bit as teenagers but made it (Shawn Green, Alex Rios come to mind) were the .250 with no power but low k rate type. These guys that hit .200 and k 40% of the the time go no where.

 

Meh I wouldn't worry too much about it, he's as old as a lot of current high school players. He obviously has the tools otherwise he wouldn't have been drafted where he has. But the Jays are going to have to develop him (if there is anything to worry about it, might be that lol) since he's so raw

[Sorrow]

107 mph for an 18 year old is extremely promising. That’s like 60 raw power at least if not more given the age.

 

Fangraphs gives him 70 Raw Power and 65 Game Power potential but only 40 hit tool.

 

He's also something like 3 years younger than the average age of players in the league and has a .233 BABIP. He's someone I'm not concerned about for a few years.

[Olerud363]

Fangraphs gives him 70 Raw Power and 65 Game Power potential but only 40 hit tool.

 

He's also something like 3 years younger than the average age of players in the league and has a .233 BABIP. He's someone I'm not concerned about for a few years.

 

How many of the raw athletic guys that struggled like this made it eventually? Who?

 

I'm probably biased to the Jays system, but just thinking of guys like D.J. Davis and Kevin Ahrens, never turned it around or came close the majors.

 

On the other hand the high draft pick teenage guys that did make it to the majors, Snider, Guerrero, Bichette, Lawrie, Vernon Wells, they all creamed low A even when they were 18 or 19.

 

Keen in mind while "young" Nimalla is at the same stage career wise as Bo Bichette was when he hit .384 in low A at 19. Nimalla is "18" but really just 7 months younger than Bichette, and same stage of "development" (year 2)

[Laika]

It's been one month though

 

If his numbers are this bad at the end of the minor league season then yeah some concern is warranted

[Sorrow]

How many of the raw athletic guys that struggled like this made it eventually? Who?

 

I'm probably biased to the Jays system, but just thinking of guys like D.J. Davis and Kevin Ahrens, never turned it around or came close the majors.

 

On the other hand the high draft pick teenage guys that did make it to the majors, Snider, Guerrero, Bichette, Lawrie, Vernon Wells, they all creamed low A even when they were 18 or 19.

 

Keen in mind while "young" Nimalla is at the same stage career wise as Bo Bichette was when he hit .384 in low A at 19. Nimalla is "18" but really just 7 months younger than Bichette, and same stage of "development" (year 2)

 

 

Off the top of my head without looking into it Alec Bohm but I think he was like 22. Ketel Marte was awful from 17-19 and broke out at 20. Isaac Paredes was pretty rough his first go around.

 

He's young, who knows what he's going through growth wise (physically not tools wise)

[HomeRunHomer]

Keen in mind while "young" Nimalla is at the same stage career wise as Bo Bichette was when he hit .384 in low A at 19. Nimalla is "18" but really just 7 months younger than Bichette, and same stage of "development" (year 2)

 

FWIW 7 months of development time at that age can make a huge difference.

 

From what I've read on him before he was drafted is that he has bust potential because he has trouble hitting breaking balls. However his swing has crazy power so if he figures that out he could be the real deal. He seems like a true boom or bust prospect.

 

The good thing is, he is young so there's plenty of time to get in more at bats and one month of playing tells us next to nothing.

Edited May 13, 2024 by HomeRunHomer

[Olerud363]

FWIW 7 months of development time at that age can make a huge difference.

 

From what I've read on him before he was drafted is that he has bust potential because he has trouble hitting breaking balls. However his swing has crazy power so if he figures that out he could be the real deal. He seems like a true boom or bust prospect.

 

The good thing is, he is young so there's plenty of time to get in more at bats and one month of playing tells us next to nothing.

 

When Don Mattingly was 18 he struck out 6 times in 50 games. Nimmala strikes out 12 times as much. This tells us something already.

 

I totally concede that he can turn it around, but I've yet to see a list of 18 year olds who hit .200 and struck out 40% in low A as a teenager but became good big leaguers anyway.

 

SO far the list is no one has succeeded after such a start, so Nimmala will be the first after the other 1000 failed.

[Olerud363]

League average is .239 .305 .388 and Vlad is like .274 .360 .388 or something close to that. So if 40 is average tool his 'game' hit tool is 50 or so, and power 40.

 

Be kind of hilarious if he wins a batting title with like a .315 15 80 rbi season in a year where no one hits .320. That happens once and a while. Then what do you do with him for hit tool?

 

I think he is destined to be the most over-rated player ever somehow. Like he will win a batting title with a .310 average and no power... so he'll have like 20 all star appearances, a homerun title, a batting title, a homerun contest title, 20 kids, big time counting numbers because somehow he'll play to 40 and never miss a game, and 12 WAR total when it is all done.

 

Be beside Harold Baines in the hall of fame.

[Grant77]

I’ve seen a couple of tweets but don’t know too much about him except he’s big

 

He's having a heck of a season so far. Pretty much striking out everyone. It will be interesting to see if he can keep it up at higher levels. Maybe a new David Wells?

[Spanky__99]

Have you guys been following Tugboat Wilkinson in the Guardians system? Cool story and Canadian too.

 

He's a rising prospect in BA... he's the kid that pitched in the LLWS with a BC team. He's interesting for sure. Dude needs to lose some lbs though.

[Terminator]

So Horwitz has played in 3 games at 2B recently. 3 in LF as well. Steamer projects him for a 119 wRC+ right now.

 

Time to dump Vogelbach and call him up. I'm actually higher on Vogelbach than most here but it's impossible for him to succeed while playing once every two weeks.

 

But calling up Horwitz could work because we could play him a lot more often. Against high velo righties he can play over Turner at DH. Can pinch hit fairly often and get some PT in LF and 2B too (which would allow us to superglue Biggio's nepo baby butt to the bench). Get him up here.