Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Krylian]

Or you could just take everything with a grain of a salt and judge each of his statements and columns on their own merit.

 

Heaven forbid

[Terminator]

We've had some good news on the prospect front to end the season. Jansen and Borucki have become actual prospects and ones that will serve as depth for the big league team next season. Reese McGuire's hot finish has made me think he's eventual big league material as well.

[P2F]

I get a real Matt Boyd-y vibe from Borucki.

[Brownie19]

I get a real Matt Boyd-y vibe from Borucki.

 

Borucki's much more of a GB pitcher.

[Brownie19]

So if Cameron says something negative he's an idiot, but if positive we grab a box of Kleenex?

 

Got it.

 

I've fapped to a lot worst man. A LOT worse.

[Krylian]

I've fapped to a lot worst man. A LOT worse.

 

Lol. We've all done things we're not proud of. I'm with you on that, brother.

[Dr. Dinger]

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/8/29/16219122/scouting-report-on-toronto-blue-jays-3b-vladimir-guerrero-jr

 

Scouting Report on Toronto Blue Jays 3B Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

 

The son of one of the top hitters in the last 20 years is quite the prospect in his own right.

 

by Matt Powers@MattPowers31 Aug 29, 2017, 12:48pm EDT

Steve Mitchell-USA TODAY SportsWhile in Florida to see some other prospects a couple hours to the north, rain caused some scheduling issues and a bit of downtime so a trip to see highly touted prospect Vladimir Guerrero Jr. of the Toronto Blue Jays was in order. I wanted to see for myself if this kid looked as good in person as he did on television (MILB.tv, Futures Game). Here’s what I saw.

Seen: 7/21 vs Lakeland Flying Tigers in Dunedin, shortly after promotion to High A

Note that Vladdy Jr was not yet hitting for any power, as the 18 year old was still making an adjustment to a much older/more advanced league at a time most other 2015 July 2 signees are in the Appalachian of Gulf Coast Leagues, while he was in the Florida State League. Of course he has since gone on a tear.

Hitting: Vladdy Jr mixes patience and the ability to identify pitches and their location with aggressiveness. He's got that same ability as his father to go out and get any pitch thrown, but he'll also take a walk much more regularly than his father ever would. If anything he may have been a bit too passive at times- but that could also be due to him being new to the league.

When he swings he's aggressive, showing the big bat speed you hear about and looking to hit it hard. He's got a great feel for contact and situations- he's not afraid to shorten his swing when he's got two strikes against him and will look to put the ball in play. He's got big power, but it's still coming in games- to be expected as an 18 year old going up against grown men. I saw enough bat speed, pitch recognition, plate coverage, and bat to ball ability to easily project a 60 hit tool on him, if not a 65.

Power: I did not make it to batting practice as there was some rain in that period of time, so all I got to see was in the game. I didn’t really see the full power on display, but he makes good hard contact, has the bat speed, and has shown me enough power on other occasions that I also see the power being a 60 as well. That's a plus hitter with plus power.

Defense: He's a big kid already and he's only going to get bigger. While he's agile for his size, he doesn't move well enough from side to side at present to see him being able to stick at third longterm. I'm not sold that he would definitely need to move to first- a spot that his athleticism would let him be a quality defender and a spot the bat still easily plays at.

I can actually see him getting a look in left field to take advantage of his athletic ability. His defense is hard to project because it depends on his body/growth as well as position, but I see a 30/40 at third, 50/60 at first, and 40/45 in left. The arm is big and will get a plus grade, and that’s another reason why I could imagine him potentially getting a look in left field.

Run: Speed isn't a part of his game and that's obvious. It's only going to slow as he continues to get bigger and add strength. He's likely going to be a 40 runner at best, though he's a bit better than that at present. He’s stolen some bases in his minor league career, but I don’t think that will translate going forward.

Overall

This kid is special. He's going to hit for power and average and will make quite the impact.

He's to me personally among the top three prospects in the game today, behind just Rafael Devers and Ronald Acuna, and I think comes with a high floor as well as his high ceiling. Him becoming a .300 hitter with 30 homers isn't exactly something that takes a ton of projection with this kid. Really the only question is where he winds up defensively, but that only matters so much when his bat plays anywhere on the field.

 

[Terminator]

Danny Jansen has gotten on base at least once in all 17 of his AAA games so far. His Steamer projection is rising like crazy as well, they see a .256/.318/.390 slash line.

[John_Havok]

Pearson had his worst outing as a pro so far.

 

3 ip, 5 k, 3 hits, 3 BB, 2 ER.

 

73 pitches, 40 atrikes. Maybe working on breaking stuff or his change today

[dbyrks]

Pearson had his worst outing as a pro so far.

 

3 ip, 5 k, 3 hits, 3 BB, 2 ER.

 

73 pitches, 40 atrikes. Maybe working on breaking stuff or his change today

 

I was at the game today - made a point of going because I wanted to see Pearson in person after reading about him. You're right, he was working on some breaking stuff at least for some at-bats. At one point he threw something as low as 77 mph, and he had another pitch (no expert on this but it was a cutter or slider I think?) which averaged 86 or 87. His fastball was routinely between 95-97 with a few at 98. He was definitely a bit wild with a lot of high inside fastballs but overall he looks pretty impressive out there. Big frame with a really overpowering fastball when it was finding the zone.

 

I recorded a

of a few pitches if anyone's interested. Hope this link works!

 

 

Also, the first earned run against him was kind of lame because the center fielder gunned the runner at home for what looked like the third out, but then there was an awkward delay when the ump just didn't make a call, the runner stepped on the plate a second later, and was called safe. I think the ump's argument was that the catcher's knee blocked his own glove from actually making the tag. It was a weird play.

[Abomination]

We should have someone start a BJMB YouTube channel that we can upload videos to that members take of the prospects.

[John_Havok]

I was at the game today - made a point of going because I wanted to see Pearson in person after reading about him. You're right, he was working on some breaking stuff at least for some at-bats. At one point he threw something as low as 77 mph, and he had another pitch (no expert on this but it was a cutter or slider I think?) which averaged 86 or 87. His fastball was routinely between 95-97 with a few at 98. He was definitely a bit wild with a lot of high inside fastballs but overall he looks pretty impressive out there. Big frame with a really overpowering fastball when it was finding the zone.

 

I recorded a

of a few pitches if anyone's interested. Hope this link works!

 

 

Also, the first earned run against him was kind of lame because the center fielder gunned the runner at home for what looked like the third out, but then there was an awkward delay when the ump just didn't make a call, the runner stepped on the plate a second later, and was called safe. I think the ump's argument was that the catcher's knee blocked his own glove from actually making the tag. It was a weird play.

 

77 was probably his curve, the mid 80s one likely his slider.

[Laika]

Starting to get excited about the possibility of a top ten pick!

 

BRING ME SETH BEER

or at least BRING ME TRISTAN POMPEY

[John_Havok]

Vladdy another ho hum 2/2 with a sac fly and walk.

 

Avridge up to.342 at High A

[TheHurl]

Starting to get excited about the possibility of a top ten pick!

 

BRING ME SETH BEER

or at least BRING ME TRISTAN POMPEY

 

Nick Madrigal aka Altuve part 2

[Ray]

Vladdy's avg no higher than Bichette. Hitting .342 vs. Bo who's hitting .338

[THANOS]

Vladdy's avg no higher than Bichette. Hitting .342 vs. Bo who's hitting .338

 

They seem to be trending in opposite directions ever since Bo's returned from injury. Regardless, they both end this season looking like beasts.

[glory]

Teoscar finally hitting. Last 15 games: .295-.338-.721, 6 hr, 2/13 bb/k, 65 pa

 

He's ready (...........to sit on the bench and watch Bautista's farewell tour).

[THANOS]

Teoscar finally hitting. Last 15 games: .295-.338-.721, 6 hr, 2/13 bb/k, 65 pa

 

He's ready (...........to sit on the bench and watch Bautista's farewell tour).

 

I think he K's far too much. I'm not much of a fan.

[Spanky99]

I was at the game today - made a point of going because I wanted to see Pearson in person after reading about him. You're right, he was working on some breaking stuff at least for some at-bats. At one point he threw something as low as 77 mph, and he had another pitch (no expert on this but it was a cutter or slider I think?) which averaged 86 or 87. His fastball was routinely between 95-97 with a few at 98. He was definitely a bit wild with a lot of high inside fastballs but overall he looks pretty impressive out there. Big frame with a really overpowering fastball when it was finding the zone.

 

I recorded a

of a few pitches if anyone's interested. Hope this link works!

 

 

Also, the first earned run against him was kind of lame because the center fielder gunned the runner at home for what looked like the third out, but then there was an awkward delay when the ump just didn't make a call, the runner stepped on the plate a second later, and was called safe. I think the ump's argument was that the catcher's knee blocked his own glove from actually making the tag. It was a weird play.

 

Thanks for the update, funny thing on that link is NFLD singer Ronnie Rose on the sidebar, that's my uncle, lol.

[glory]

I think he K's far too much. I'm not much of a fan.

 

His K rate has gone down since beginning his Buffalo tenure striking out a ton. I think it's at 28% now since the trade, which is still too high, but well down from the 40% it was like two weeks ago. He K'd 17 times in his first 40 plate appearances for Buffalo, and 13 in his last 65 plate appearances since. I'll give him a pass since he was starting with a new team and moving from the PCL to an actual normal environment.

 

Long term he is probably a guy that will have trouble making consistent contact in the bigs but will have some power and hopefully value on defence and the bases.

[Olerud363]

I think he K's far too much. I'm not much of a fan.

 

Lot's of players that k that much become successful

 

Which one is Hernandez age 24?? Which one is Aaron Judge age 24?? **

 

G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OB SLG

93 410 352 62 95 18 1 19 65 5 0 47 98 .270 .366 .489

104 452 396 67 105 26 5 18 66 16 8 47 102 .265 .352 .492

 

** He probably won't be Aaron Judge, because Aaron Judge (so far) is the 1/100 that is better in the majors.

 

Just saying lots of players that k a lot are successful.

[Brownie19]

I think he K's far too much. I'm not much of a fan.

 

C'mon man, his K% was about 16% last year between AA/AAA and was 20% with the Astros in AAA this year. Let's not judge based on 99 PA's on a new team.

[Krylian]

Lot's of players that k that much become successful

 

Which one is Hernandez age 24?? Which one is Aaron Judge age 24?? **

 

G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OB SLG

93 410 352 62 95 18 1 19 65 5 0 47 98 .270 .366 .489

104 452 396 67 105 26 5 18 66 16 8 47 102 .265 .352 .492

 

** He probably won't be Aaron Judge, because Aaron Judge (so far) is the 1/100 that is better in the majors.

 

Just saying lots of players that k a lot are successful.

 

 

I don't think Judge will ever match what he did this season. Ryan Howard springs to mind.

[LGBJ29]

In his last 14 games at A+ Vlad Guerrero Jr. is slashing .449/.517/.776 with 4 home runs and a 9:6 BB/K ratio. He's the best prospect in baseball

[Olerud363]

I don't think Judge will ever match what he did this season. Ryan Howard springs to mind.

 

Agree with you on that. Howard had better minor league numbers, and a better break-out season (kept it up for 162 games).

 

Mark Reynolds, Adam Dunn, guys who strike out 200+ times don't have a run as "best hitter in baseball". Kind of more like .240 hitters with 35-40 homers.

 

Really good hitters strike out about half as much, Pujols, Frank Thomas.

 

Mike Trout I guess is an exception. A great hitter striking out 150 times a year... but 150 isn't 200 and Trout is a freak.

[Melvin]

In his last 14 games at A+ Vlad Guerrero Jr. is slashing .449/.517/.776 with 4 home runs and a 9:6 BB/K ratio. He's the best prospect in baseball

 

Maybe the best ever

[Krylian]

Maybe the best ever

 

He shouldn't even play anymore. He's too good for the sport.

[P2F]

He shouldn't even play anymore. He's too good for the sport.

 

Let's just give him all of the relevant MLB hitting records, put him in the Hall, and call it a day.

[Dr. Dinger]

He's Miguel Cabrera with Stanton's power and Votto's PD.