General Offseason Discussion Thread

[Jimcanuck]

i can see both Sanchez and Osuna spending time both as starters and in the bullpen in 2016. Would like to see Osuna mimic the use of Sanchez this year, minus the time on DL.

 

Nothing wrong with our very own Mariano Rivera either

[Pulk_Pull]

Osuna's personal accountant should tell him that being a reliever is not in his best interest for the future.

 

Yes, yes, yes. Try it out. I'll be curious to see if he can scale back and still get a lot of swing and misses.

[John_Havok]

He has the arsenal to start. Would probably sit ~93, slider and changeup both look plus in relief, most of the time. No reason he couldn't develop a decent two-seamer.

 

The only reason not to try him as a SP might be his mechanics. He has a big elbow lift and his arm is late. It's noticeable even in real time video. Helps him throw hard but probably increases stress on his elbow.

Now, there's more to mechanics than elbows and arms. Things like when his shoulder turn happens and how stiff his front leg is also impact stress on the arm, and thus durability. He could have decent mechanics all things considered. But if the team doesn't think his mechanics look clean, then he should probably be left in the bullpen. Better to have a healthy reliever than a starter on the operating table.

 

So it depends on the bio-mechanical analysis!

 

Another factor now also is how many innings could you even expect from him in 2016 as a starter? 100?

 

Edit: I see you adressed that in a post already.

[Krylian]

Start him.

 

Try Cecil again as closer.

[Spanky99]

Yes.

[tazsub3]

Why change what is working??

I would not change a thing for next year. In two years when dickey is gone, I would reconsider

[Krylian]

Osuna likes the bullpen and Sanchez likes starting, but both are better doing the opposite of what they like.

 

The problem with Osuna is the jump in innings next year as a starter. Can his arm handle it?

 

Yes.

[baubau]

Why change what is working?

 

Because it can work better? You always look for ways to improve your team. Osuna in the rotation could accomplish that. Don't worry about two years, both Burly and Estrada are gone next year. There is room.

[Jimcanuck]

Because it can work better? You always look for ways to improve your team. Osuna in the rotation could accomplish that. Don't worry about two years, both Burly and Estrada are gone next year. There is room.

 

and Price?

[reedjohnsonfan]

Feliz says hi

 

Bard also says hi.

[baubau]

and Price?

 

What about Price?

[Jimcanuck]

What about Price?

 

He will be gone too? You mentioned Estrada and Burly only

 

The only guys from the end of season rotation likely to be back are Dickey and Stro

[baubau]

He will be gone too? You mentioned Estrada and Burly only

 

The only guys from the end of season rotation likely to be back are Dickey and Stro

 

Ah! Yes lol. My bad. I thought I had him there. Looking back I did not. Good catch! There is also Hutch whom will be back but I am not sure what the Jay's plan with him are.

[Jimcanuck]

Ah! Yes lol. My bad. I thought I had him there. Looking back I did not. Good catch! There is also Hutch whom will be back but I am not sure what the Jay's plan with him are.

 

Got to figure with the freed up cash from Burly leaving, a FA pitcher will be signed.

 

Hutch is a maybe, but assuming he still has options, I expect the Jays will want him in Buffalo at least to start the year (depth).

 

Stro

FA

Dickey

Sanchez/Osuna

?

 

IMO, the ? will be whoever Pillar and lesser pieces returns in a trade.

[Rusty_Savage]

Got to figure with the freed up cash from Burly leaving, a FA pitcher will be signed.

 

Hutch is a maybe, but assuming he still has options, I expect the Jays will want him in Buffalo at least to start the year (depth).

 

Stro

FA

Dickey

Sanchez/Osuna

?

 

IMO, the ? will be whoever Pillar and lesser pieces returns in a trade.

 

Most of Buehrle's cash will be going to Martin's pay raise.

[Jimcanuck]

Most of Buehrle's cash will be going to Martin's pay raise.

 

I know. And JD's increase will eat some also. $14.5M - $8M for Martin's increase, ? for JD = maybe $5M barely enough for a serviceable 5th starter

[Rusty_Savage]

I know. And JD's increase will eat some also. $14.5M - $8M for Martin's increase, ? for JD = maybe $5M barely enough for a serviceable 5th starter

 

Don't forget about Romero's 7.5ish (I think) coming off the books. Either way, I try not to look to much at salaries. I hope if the team keeps producing, so will Rogers.

[Frenchsoup]

QO for Estrada? I think so.

[Nafro]

QO for Estrada? I think so.

 

I would most certainly think so.

[RealAccountant]

Osuna's personal accountant should tell him that being a reliever is not in his best interest for the future.

 

Yes, yes, yes. Try it out. I'll be curious to see if he can scale back and still get a lot of swing and misses.

 

OK I will try

[Krylian]

Isn't a QO around $16M now? You really want to offer than to Estrada...even if it is for just 1 year?

[HERPDERP]

if I were Estrada I wouldn't take that.

 

He's already 32, he can get a 3 year contract easily that is way more than $10m per year.

 

So yeah, lets offer the QO.

[Stangstag]

Its time.

 

Areas of need:

1. Starting pitching

2. Relief pitching

3. Right Field

 

 

Notable free agent starters:

- David Price

- Jordan Zimmerman

- Jeff Samardzija

- Zack Greinke

- Brett Anderson

- Wei-yin Chen

- Johnny Cueto??

- Doug Fister

- Yovani Gallardo

- JA Happ?

- Hisashi Iwakuma

- Scott Kazmir

- Kyle Kendrick

- Ian Kennedy

- John Lackey

- Mat Latos

- Mike Leake

- Bud Norris

[BTS]

This won't end well.

[GD]

account deletion please

 

guy had tix to tomorrow and sold em too

[jaysblue]

Sign both Iwakuma and Shark.

[TRM]

Offseason Wish List:

 

1. Stanton

2. Chris Davis

3. Corey Kluber

4. Shark

[TRM]

5. Aroldis Chapman

[jaysblue]

Offseason Wish List:

 

1. Stanton

2. Chris Davis

3. Corey Kluber

4. Shark

 

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[TRM]

http://i.imgur.com/TEvxw25.jpg

 

See #5