General Offseason Discussion Thread

[bronson44]

trade Revere for a bp piece

[Grant77]

We have added depth to our rotation. We are I believe 4 deep now in Stroman, Estrada, Dickie & Happ. Chaves and Hutchinson provide depth in case of injury.

 

Do you believe we will still be in on a Tier 1 Pitcher? Or like me believe it will now be Tier 2?

 

I say its from the list of

 

Zimmermann, Gillardo, Chen, Samardzija, Iwakuma

 

Who else do you believe could be on our radar?

 

I think that we've used up enough payroll that we are out on all of the pitchers you listed. I don't think any of them, especially the last 3, had any interest in signing here. If they did, we probably wouldn't have jumped on Happ so early. If we sign any more FA starters, I'd expect them to be more in the Blanton/Young/Cahill/Lincecum tier.

 

The smart move in my opinion is to give Sanchez a legit shot to start in ST and add a late inning arm or two later in the offseason.

[BTS]

1. sign at least one good pen arm to a major league deal

2. non-tender Smoak and Thole

3. re-sign Thole to a league min deal

4. sign multiple minor league SP and RP to provide depth

 

/offseason

[MusicaEsLivida]

I wanna see Gillardo. I think he makes the perfect compliment. Then we would have control over

 

Stroman, Estrada, Happ and Gillardo for at least the next 3 years.

[King]

I wanna see Gillardo. I think he makes the perfect compliment. Then we would have control over

 

Stroman, Estrada, Happ and Gillardo for at least the next 3 years.

 

mods

[BTS]

I wanna see Gillardo. I think he makes the perfect compliment. Then we would have control over

 

Stroman, Estrada, Happ and Gillardo for at least the next 3 years.

 

mods

[MusicaEsLivida]

what does Mods mean?

[GD]

what does Mods mean?

 

mods

[nonamejays]

I think the Jays need 2 good bullpen pieces as insurance in case any/all of the 4 middling starters regress significantly.

 

Other than that, I guess it's done.

[Chappy]

1. sign at least one good pen arm to a major league deal

2. non-tender Smoak and Thole

3. re-sign Thole to a league min deal

4. sign multiple minor league SP and RP to provide depth

 

/offseason

 

Does Smoak have no value? I feel like this would be a mistake.

[Angrioter]

I wanna see Gillardo. I think he makes the perfect compliment. Then we would have control over

 

Stroman, Estrada, Happ and Gillardo for at least the next 3 years.

 

Ban level post.

 

Gillardo is s*** long term.

 

Sign or trade Revere for one more Jesse Chavez kind of guy.

 

Sign or trade Revere for bullpen arm. Sign tons of minor league Arms.

[Chappy]

At this point given our top 5 arms, I'd expect Revere to be back. Unless a trade is on the horizon, I doubt I'm wrong.

[Jimcanuck]

everyone knows my position.... should i re-state it

[RealAccountant]

everyone knows my position.... should i re-state it

 

You do understand that people don't usually read other peoples posts on the internet

 

They react and forget

[Jimcanuck]

You do understand that people don't usually read other peoples posts on the internet

 

They react and forget

 

Well then.

 

Not satisfied with the starting pitching. A front line starter in Stroman who has never pitched a full MLB season, and 4 #4/5 types doesn't cut it for me.

 

If Jays are close to budget limit, should move position player salary and acquire a #2/3 starter. Revere and Tulo are possibilities to be moved. Although many on this board are emotionally attached to Tulo, I don't give a s***.

[Frenchsoup]

They will upgrade the team wherever the best available value is. That's been their mo the last year and a bit.

[GD]

trade for Chapman

[Followthelight]

No money left, just BP pieces at this point, we are going into the season with a scrub rotation yay. Lets hope the bullpen is dominant, but there are holes there too.

[Trouba95]

Dickey/Revere moved frees up cash. Pls Shapiro.

[gbill2004]

I'm pretty sure Happ IS the second tier pitcher.

[gbill2004]

Dickey/Revere moved frees up cash. Pls Shapiro.

 

Do we know if Saunders will be 100% going into ST this year?

[wamco]

sign a closer type and use osuna in the rotation for the first half. Then move osuna to the pen and Chavez into the rotation.

[CJ-Freeway]

I'm pretty sure Happ IS the second tier pitcher.

 

Haha that's f***ing sad

[Ultimate]

If the payroll is 140 M. There is no way that they have Jesse Chavez at 4.7 slotted as the 6 starter. If they add starters it will be flyers who can slot in at 6 or 7 behind Chavez at 5. Brandon Morrow types.

 

IF the number is 140, they have about 5 million to spend. But that can be increased by tendering Thole and I expect they will either non tender Saunders or trade Revere.

 

I would have thought about non tendering Smoak too (he did nothing to increase his value from what it was a year ago at 1 million), but letting Hague go makes me think the team is not considering that.

[BigCecil]

Do we know if Saunders will be 100% going into ST this year?

 

He has rarely ever been and we don't know the effect of the surgery he had. With his luck he will get hit by lightening or mauled by a bear in BC this off season.

[DerangedIdoit]

If the payroll is 140 M. There is no way that they have Jesse Chavez at 4.7 slotted as the 6 starter. If they add starters it will be flyers who can slot in at 6 or 7 behind Chavez at 5. Brandon Morrow types.

 

IF the number is 140, they have about 5 million to spend. But that can be increased by tendering Thole and I expect they will either non tender Saunders or trade Revere.

 

I would have thought about non tendering Smoak too (he did nothing to increase his value from what it was a year ago at 1 million), but letting Hague go makes me think the team is not considering that.

 

Trade Revere for a bullpen piece, sign another bullpen piece and spend the remaining $6m on Chris Young if he would have us of course.

[Spanky99]

He has rarely ever been and we don't know the effect of the surgery he had. With his luck he will get hit by lightening or mauled by a bear in BC this off season.

 

lol

[glory]

Non tender both Thole and Saunders and bring both back on lesser/minor league deals. I wouldn't guarantee Saunders anything with the injury he is coming off of, and Revere is a better bet than him going forward.

[Jimcanuck]

Non tender both Thole and Saunders and bring both back on lesser/minor league deals. I wouldn't guarantee Saunders anything with the injury he is coming off of, and Revere is a better bet than him going forward.

 

Thole yes, Saunders not sure. If he is reasonably healthy, would not want to take the chance of losing him.

[Effit]

He has rarely ever been and we don't know the effect of the surgery he had. With his luck he will get hit by lightening or mauled by a bear in BC this off season.

 

lol