2015 Trade Deadline Targets Thread.

[HERPDERP]

lol

 

[BTS]

lmao

 

lol

 

[HERPDERP]

The real insult/kicker here is taking on Gyorko and that contract.

[Daniel Labude]

How would you know what the asking price is? Are you Rick Hahn?

 

Reported by CBS the other day...4 prospects...not cheap

[Angrioter]

lol

 

 

Drugs

[Swervin81]

Lol Jedd Jerkoff is a scrub. Not giving up Travis either.

[jaysfan2014]

lol

 

 

Is this fake or just what that person from MLB network suggests?

[HERPDERP]

This is a good case where record doesn't show the true talent of the team. Like, compare the Tigers and the Jays. Last week at some point they were both at .500, but the Tigers were strongly considering to sell while the Jays were more than likely to be buyers. That's because it seems the Jays have been incredibly unlucky, as pointed by the run differential, so adding a big pitching piece can turn the favor for the Jays.

 

Remember that the Royals were a .500 team last year and they made the big push into Game 7. I think the Jays can make a similar push, only this time I think we could also compete for the AL East considering how many games we have against the Yankees. We just need better pitching.

[KingKat]

Is this fake or just what that person from MLB network suggests?

 

Dero = Derosa, Mark

[BTS]

I feel like Tyson Ross isn't the kind of pitcher to make a significant commitment to. Two straight years with a declining fastball velo and awful mechanics that result in awful control and make him a huge injury risk. I'd be all over him as a free agent on a short term deal, but I'm definitely not moving top assets for him.

[Dr. Dinger]

I would be willing to give up big name prospects for Shark if we can get Robertson as well. Same with Kimbrel + Ross/Cashner.

[HERPDERP]

it's a proposed trade from Mark DeRosa. Not sure why it's called Dero Demo. Maybe he's suggesting trades that would be destructive to teams?

[jaysfan2014]

it's a proposed trade from Mark DeRosa. Not sure why it's called Dero Demo. Maybe he's suggesting trades that would be destructive to teams?

 

Wonder if Mark DeRosa has some beef against the Jays or something, considering he played for them.

[flafson]

This is a good case where record doesn't show the true talent of the team. Like, compare the Tigers and the Jays. Last week at some point they were both at .500, but the Tigers were strongly considering to sell while the Jays were more than likely to be buyers. That's because it seems the Jays have been incredibly unlucky, as pointed by the run differential, so adding a big pitching piece can turn the favor for the Jays.

 

Remember that the Royals were a .500 team last year and they made the big push into Game 7. I think the Jays can make a similar push, only this time I think we could also compete for the AL East considering how many games we have against the Yankees. We just need better pitching.

 

Royals have the best 7/8/9 inning combination in baseball. We have Shultz, Sanchez and Osuna.

[BTS]

It seems weird to be thinking about going "all-in" as a .500 team, but the only team ahead of the Blue Jays in the second wildcard race is the Twins, who are deeply flawed. Fangraphs thinks they still have a 10% shot at the division too. I definitely think we should do something.

 

I'm definitely in for doing something, just not at significant long-term cost for a rental. Hamels would be awesome. Edwin for a pitcher could make sense. Fiers. Gerardo Parra might come surprisingly cheap.

[RealAccountant]

Please no prospects traded except Boyd or something

[Brownie19]

I feel like Tyson Ross isn't the kind of pitcher to make a significant commitment to. Two straight years with a declining fastball velo and awful mechanics that result in awful control and make him a huge injury risk. I'd be all over him as a free agent on a short term deal, but I'm definitely not moving top assets for him.

 

I agree with this. Cashner is a major injury risk, but it seems the price would be significantly less than Ross (albeit he has 1 less year of control too IIRC). He might be the guy I go after.

[BTS]

I would be willing to give up big name prospects for Shark if we can get Robertson as well. Same with Kimbrel + Ross/Cashner.

 

Yeah, I'd love to add Robertson or Kimbrel. I think people now kind of underrate the value of having 60-70 super elite innings from the pen.

[z3r0s]

Yeah, I'd love to add Robertson or Kimbrel. I think people now kind of underrate the value of having 60-70 super elite innings from the pen.

 

Its like a pendulum effect. BP either seems super over-valued, or super under-valued.

[Dr. Dinger]

Yeah, I'd love to add Robertson or Kimbrel. I think people now kind of underrate the value of having 60-70 super elite innings from the pen.

 

Love those two pitchers, personally, and I don't think their contracts are exorbitant. If I could get Shark + Houdini or Kimbrel + Ross, I'd be willing to give up one of Norris or Hoffman + lesser pieces. Preferably, you make the other team take Navarro back to cut a couple million, but it wouldn't be a dealbreaker. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd even take Shields' contract. You cut the salaries of Buehrle + Dickey + Romero + Navarro next year and there's plenty of room for Shields + Kimbrel. Granted, if you're taking Shields' contract, you're not giving up much in the way of prospects.

[BTS]

Love those two pitchers, personally, and I don't think their contracts are exorbitant. If I could get Shark + Houdini or Kimbrel + Ross, I'd be willing to give up one of Norris or Hoffman + lesser pieces. Preferably, you make the other team take Navarro back to cut a couple million, but it wouldn't be a dealbreaker. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd even take Shields' contract. You cut the salaries of Buehrle + Dickey + Romero + Navarro next year and there's plenty of room for Shields + Kimbrel. Granted, if you're taking Shields' contract, you're not giving up much in the way of prospects.

 

I'd have no issues taking on Shields' contract. If I'm betting on a pitcher to stay healthy and productive for three more years, he's near the top of my list.

[Terminator]

Its like a pendulum effect. BP either seems super over-valued, or super under-valued.

 

Yeah and that can happen with any stat really.

 

Look at OBP, for example. When this whole Moneyball craze started everyone used that one stat to point at guys like Adam Dunn and wonder if he's a Hall of Famer. Statistic analysis should always be looked at through the scope of market inefficiencies to really take full advantage of sabremetrics.

[LTR]

How big trades get made:

 

GM shoots the s*** with other GM

 

Various player names get thrown around

 

This goes nowhere so they meet for beers

 

After a few beers and some dirty jokes a consensus is reached

 

Names now need to be vetted

 

GM forwards names to Assistant GM

 

Assistant GM forwards names to Special Assistant

 

Special Assistant forwards names to Scouting dept

 

Scouting dept forwards names to Analytics department

 

Manager of Analytics dept tosses names to some underpaid kid fresh out of University (just completed his degree in computer science and mathematics)

 

Analytics kid enters names into some computational analytics programs, makes a few excel spreadsheets

 

Kid likes the trade and this is sent is back up the ladder

 

President reads a sentence or two in an email and approves trade in one word resonse "Approved"

 

Legal department composes some jargon contract using a template they stole from hacking Astro's file servers

 

Players do a blood test, piss test, jump through a few hoops before medical gives final okay

 

One year later trade is a complete flop

 

GM, Special Assistant, Scouting Director, Manager of Analytics Dept are all fired

 

Analytics Kid is promoted

[Terminator]

I'd have no issues taking on Shields' contract. If I'm betting on a pitcher to stay healthy and productive for three more years, he's near the top of my list.

 

Yeah he could replace Beurhle in both innings pitched and salary.

[Dr. Dinger]

I'd have no issues taking on Shields' contract. If I'm betting on a pitcher to stay healthy and productive for three more years, he's near the top of my list.

 

Who says no?

 

Pillar + Sanchez + Norris + Navarro

 

for

 

Upton + Shields + Kimbrel

[BTS]

How big trades get made:

 

GM shoots the s*** with other GM

 

Various player names get thrown around

 

This goes nowhere so they meet for beers

 

After a few beers and some dirty jokes a consensus is reached

 

Names now need to be vetted

 

GM forwards names to Assistant GM

 

Assistant GM forwards names to Special Assistant

 

Special Assistant forwards names to Scouting dept

 

Scouting dept forwards names to Analytics department

 

Manager of Analytics dept tosses names to some underpaid kid fresh out of University (just completed his degree in computer science and mathematics)

 

Analytics kid enters names into some computational analytics programs, makes a few excel spreadsheets

 

Kid likes the trade and this is sent is back up the ladder

 

President reads a sentence or two in an email and approves trade in one word resonse "Approved"

 

Legal department composes some jargon contract using a template they stole from hacking Astro's file servers

 

Players do a blood test, piss test, jump through a few hoops before medical gives final okay

 

One year later trade is a complete flop

 

GM, Special Assistant, Scouting Director, Manager of Analytics Dept are all fired

 

Analytics Kid is promoted

 

I'm pretty sure this could not be more wrong for like 27 or 28 teams.

[BTS]

Who says no?

 

Pillar + Sanchez + Norris + Navarro

 

for

 

Upton + Shields + Kimbrel

 

Can we just remove Upton and Pillar and call it a deal?

[Dr. Dinger]

The Blue Jays would say no. They still love Sanchez and would want to keep Pillar on the team (they don't seem ready to promote Pompey yet).

 

I feel like Aaron Sanchez sucks, but then again he does have a career 2.67 ERA through 101 IP. I'd do that trade though.

[DuckDuckGose]

I think most people on here would be happy to take Shields' contract (it's been discussed in many threads). The Blue Jays are not going to land a similar pitcher for that amount in free agency and it isn't a bad contract by projected $/WAR arithmetic.

 

Give the Padres a decent prospect or two in return for Shields and Kimbrel, and request a small amount of 2015 salary relief.

 

It's giving up top prospects for a guy they could've had in FA that gets me annoyed.

[Dr. Dinger]

It's giving up top prospects for a guy they could've had in FA that gets me annoyed.

 

It would be pretty funny if San Diego got one year of Shields for $10M and then got decent prospects for the remainder of his backloaded deal. Maybe Preller isn't quite as stupid as we think.