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This might be a little premature but what the hell...we're on a 10 game winning streak and 1 game out of first. I think it's obvious we're going to be buyers at the deadline. Use this thread to discuss possible targets the Jays could use at the deadline. Trade rumors, ect.

 

A player i personally would like to see the Jays target that should not cost significant assets is Ian Kennedy. He's a free agent who likely will not be back in SD after this year. His 6.48 ERA looks pretty ugly but his peripherals are pretty much the same as last year when he was pretty damn good. He's been pretty unlucky this year ( 24% HR/FB, .331 BABIP) and he is rocking a very respectable 95 xFIP-. He's still missing bats this year (11.2 SwSt% which is excellent) and i would expect him to be much better going forward. San Diego should be out of it by mid July and i don't see why they would not be open to moving Kennedy.

 

Names like Cueto and Hamels will probably cost a ton in terms of talent to land and i would prefer to keep the farm together and i think an arm like Kennedy would be a great target as someone who might be a little under rated now.

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Looks at title...You think?

 

Heh.

 

Well...might as well have one single thread to discuss the rumors instead of a separate thread for each time the Jays "inquire" on a player. Ie. Clippard, Papelbon, ect.

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Good idea on Kennedy but will Padres want to trade him? They invested in a lot of talent to compete this year and in the near future...

 

Who will he replace in the rotation? Not much of an upgrade over Estrada... maybe if Sanchez doesn't work out. Personally I'd like to dump Dickey.

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Good idea on Kennedy but will Padres want to trade him? They invested in a lot of talent to compete this year and in the near future...

 

Who will he replace in the rotation? Not much of an upgrade over Estrada... maybe if Sanchez doesn't work out. Personally I'd like to dump Dickey.

 

Sanchez is going to hit his pitching limit, if he doesn't get TJS first.

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Trading for Kennedy based on his peripherals would be similar to last year when the Yanks dealt for Brandon McCarthy (which worked out great for NYY).

 

In general, I like the ideal. My concern is Kennedy's a flyball pitcher who's best suited in a big ballpark (like Petco). I'd be OK with them adding Kennedy at a reasonable price - provided that's not the only move we make...

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Nats trading a starter now makes so much sense. J Zimmerman and Fister free agents this year and Strasburg next. With Joe Ross showing that he belongs. They aren't going to want prospects though.

 

EE for Strasburg. probably an even deal that suits both teams needs. I don't think Edwin gets 5 and 10 rights for another 2 months.

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Nats trading a starter now makes so much sense. J Zimmerman and Fister free agents this year and Strasburg next. With Joe Ross showing that he belongs. They aren't going to want prospects though.

 

EE for Strasburg. probably an even deal that suits both teams needs. I don't think Edwin gets 5 and 10 rights for another 2 months.

 

That would be a amazing trade, but I don't see the Jays pulling the trigger while Beast is still around. You may more likely see Gio being targeted by the Jays as he was a target in the past while he was with the A's.

I would trade EE sooner than I would Bau. For some reason I just see Bautista deteriorating at a slower rate than EE.

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Nats trading a starter now makes so much sense. J Zimmerman and Fister free agents this year and Strasburg next. With Joe Ross showing that he belongs. They aren't going to want prospects though.

 

EE for Strasburg. probably an even deal that suits both teams needs. I don't think Edwin gets 5 and 10 rights for another 2 months.

 

I think EE gets it in the next couple weeks IIRC. 90% sure its before the trade deadline. I'd be in favour of trading EE for a #1/2 starter though. His position really kills his value.

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Right now EE would have to get hot for his value to.increase. he has not been good this year plus injury concerns

 

+ plus defensive limitations

 

He's just not a great assett at all when he's not beasting. It's hard to make room on your roster for a guy like this at the best of times and not many will bother when there are question marks. Probably best to just ride it out.

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I think if the Nats trade a pitcher it has to be Zimmerman doesn't it? The guy with the expiring contract? That would make the most sense for them.

 

We could offer them Edwin for Zimmerman but they'd need to give us a lot more due to Zimm being a rental.

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I think if the Nats trade a pitcher it has to be Zimmerman doesn't it? The guy with the expiring contract? That would make the most sense for them.

 

We could offer them Edwin for Zimmerman but they'd need to give us a lot more due to Zimm being a rental.

 

Haven't we had enough bad experiences acquiring NL pitchers? Even if they work out, we are going to overpay for inflated numbers.

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Haven't we had enough bad experiences acquiring NL pitchers? Even if they work out, we are going to overpay for inflated numbers.

 

Well if it's an NL pitcher for Edwin, a hitter who really doesn't belong on the field. Both teams lose equally!!!

 

But really, that's what all these "advanced" stats are for....swinging strike rates, velocity, GB%...a good GM should be able to find the guy whose skills transfer well from NL to AL.

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Nats trading a starter now makes so much sense. J Zimmerman and Fister free agents this year and Strasburg next. With Joe Ross showing that he belongs. They aren't going to want prospects though.

 

EE for Strasburg. probably an even deal that suits both teams needs. I don't think Edwin gets 5 and 10 rights for another 2 months.

 

Seems like more of an off-season move to me but I like it.

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Haven't we had enough bad experiences acquiring NL pitchers? Even if they work out, we are going to overpay for inflated numbers.

 

Dickey and JJ didn't work out but that doesn't mean future trades wont

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I think if the Nats trade a pitcher it has to be Zimmerman doesn't it? The guy with the expiring contract? That would make the most sense for them.

 

We could offer them Edwin for Zimmerman but they'd need to give us a lot more due to Zimm being a rental.

 

The rumours are they want to move Stras to resign Zimm to a long term deal.

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I'd be fine with Edwin for Strasburg, but SS is a Boras guy. Beeston's personal beef gets in the way of that.
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Dickey and JJ didn't work out but that doesn't mean future trades wont

 

There were underlying concerns with both prior to acquisition, but they both had Cy Young years right before we acquired them. If they are having problems...

Especially if we are giving up guys like Syndergaard, Sanchez, Norris, and/or Hoffman in these trades, why not target a younger AL pitcher and get a guy with a few years of control?

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