Spoonovic Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Does anyone have any expectations for this bust anymore? He was supposed to be a #1 or #2 for a long time. He had the great minor league results in the Philly organization, he had above average “stuff”, he even had the blood lines as his knuckle balling father won the Cy Young. Yet he hasn’t done much in the majors. He can’t throw strikes to save his life. I remember after recovering from his 2nd Tommy John injury, he had an impressive walk ratio in the minors. What happened when he was called up and entered the game out of the bullpen in September? He walked three straight batters. In today’s spring training game he had 3 walks in 1.2 IP. Thoughts on Kyle Drabek?
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 I'd sooner expect something from Ricky Romero than Drabek.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 i think he is probably a reliever in the long run but not going to just judge off today
Spoonovic Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Author Posted February 27, 2014 Org guy. He'll kick around until he runs out of option years then he'll be DFA'd and spend the rest of his career going from org to org on minor league contracts. Yeah but would you trade him and snider for Grienke though?
The_DH Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 I think Doug Drabek had a fastball, not knuckleballer.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Deck McGuire >> Romero and Drabek
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 29th ranked prospect only three years ago .884 WHIP 5.83 K/BB in the minors last year Finally healthy 26 years old Still throwing in the low-mid 90s I WANT TO BELIEVE It's way too early to completely give up on the guy. It's like just lost his control over night. Not really the full-on yips ala Ankiel... but pretty damn close. Really weird. This is a make or break year for sure though.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Deck McGuire >> Romero and Drabek Deck McGuire is not better than Kyle Drabek lol...
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Just keep him in the pen. He seems like a huge mouth breather so it'll be good for him to focus on just one inning at a time. The FB/CB combo would be deadly out of the pen if he could actually f***ing find some control.
8D Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Drabek is gonna be the 2020 Toronto Blue Jays SS. Hopefully Jays hold on to him and he eventually finds his command, but without, he's got no shot at anything. Will he ever get it? Anybody's guess.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 very pedestrian minor league results 1.04 K/BB in 170 major league innings two tommy john surgeries 26 years old BUST He's technically a bust because3 years ago we all considered him a #1-1A type of guy... But he can still be salvaged. The stuff is still there.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 if i were the jays i'd build a package around Drabek for sharky
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 if i were the jays i'd build a package around Drabek for sharky Might as well throw in Ryan Goins too.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 He's technically a bust because3 years ago we all considered him a #1-1A type of guy... But he can still be salvaged. The stuff is still there. No. He's a bust because can't be able to be consistent throwing strikes. Romero, Drabek and McGuire are bust, but Deck is younger and the Jays have more years of control over Him
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 if i were the jays i'd build a package around Drabek for sharky lol You're funny
Anemic0ffense Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 I'd deal him at the deadline if he puts up any numbers remotely close to decent. You know GM's will still like him based off his name alone giving him added value. I just can't see him ever getting his head in the game. He's a mental case like Romero.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Does anyone have any expectations for this bust anymore? He was supposed to be a #1 or #2 for a long time. He had the great minor league results in the Philly organization, he had above average “stuff”, he even had the blood lines as his knuckle balling father won the Cy Young. Yet he hasn’t done much in the majors. He can’t throw strikes to save his life. I remember after recovering from his 2nd Tommy John injury, he had an impressive walk ratio in the minors. What happened when he was called up and entered the game out of the bullpen in September? He walked three straight batters. In today’s spring training game he had 3 walks in 1.2 IP. Thoughts on Kyle Drabek? Slot him in the 'pen and get him to focus on throwing a couple of pitches
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Just keep him in the pen. He seems like a huge mouth breather so it'll be good for him to focus on just one inning at a time. The FB/CB combo would be deadly out of the pen if he could actually f***ing find some control. Add in a change, which he's had some success with as well.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Drabek might seem like a complete lost cause, but I really don't think he's that much different than the majority of "stuff" pitching prospects. He'll likely never be anything, but if something clicks for him then he could be a monster. Is he that much different than, say, Aaron Sanchez? The raw pitch quality is undeniable and with his demonstrated GB tendencies he might not need to K/BB as hard as you might think. You just have to slay one dragon, Kyle. The walk dragon. He looks like Ted Williams, wearing Bonds' elbow guard. Slay him with your awkwardness.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Is he that much different than, say, Aaron Sanchez? Now there's a comforting thought.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 I think he will end up in the bullpen eventually. He doesn't have the command to make it as a starter, but maybe as a short reliever who only has to throw an inning he will be able to dial it in a little bit. His days of being a starting option at the MLB level are over.
Smedley Butler Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Thoughts on Kyle Drabek? Filthy stuff, would be great if he wasn't such a train-wreck in terms of mental composure. Dude needs to calm the f*** down out there and let his talent speak for itself.
fireballW Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Drabek will be one of the 2 breakout pitchers this year.
LunchBox Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Drabek is a total longshot at this point but it's not impossible, that Chris Carpenter guy had a poor minor league K/BB ratio and arm problems, he turned out okay.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Drabek will be one of the 2 breakout pitchers this year. I would bet that isn't the case.
GNick Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 I remember when Halladay trade made, every poster was saying no chance Drabek end up another Marty Janzen.
reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Does anyone have any expectations for this bust anymore? He was supposed to be a #1 or #2 for a long time. He had the great minor league results in the Philly organization, he had above average “stuff”, he even had the blood lines as his knuckle balling father won the Cy Young. Yet he hasn’t done much in the majors. He can’t throw strikes to save his life. I remember after recovering from his 2nd Tommy John injury, he had an impressive walk ratio in the minors. What happened when he was called up and entered the game out of the bullpen in September? He walked three straight batters. In today’s spring training game he had 3 walks in 1.2 IP. Thoughts on Kyle Drabek? I remember seeing him pitch against Darvish two years ago and I thought he looked great (as did Darvish of course). The ability is there, but these kinds of pitchers are the most annoying to watch. If he just threw the ball over the plate more often he'd be a good ML calibre pitcher. Maybe he could turn into a good late inning bullpen arm?
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 I remember seeing him pitch against Darvish two years ago and I thought he looked great (as did Darvish of course). The ability is there, but these kinds of pitchers are the most annoying to watch. If he just threw the ball over the plate more often he'd be a good ML calibre pitcher. Maybe he could turn into a good late inning bullpen arm? The reality is drabek hasn't pitched enough mlb innings to come to any conclusion and less than 2 innings in spring training is hardly enough time to determine anything. Drabek has good movement and velocity. His delivery is not consistent enough. Does he make the necessary adjustments physically and mentally to be a productive pitcher? Who knows. I think those certain that he will be a quality pitcher or won't be a quality pitcher are rushing to judgement.
flafson Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 He falls off the mound when he throws, i'm not an expert but i don't think that suppose to happen.
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Drabek might seem like a complete lost cause, but I really don't think he's that much different than the majority of "stuff" pitching prospects. He'll likely never be anything, but if something clicks for him then he could be a monster. Is he that much different than, say, Aaron Sanchez? The raw pitch quality is undeniable and with his demonstrated GB tendencies he might not need to K/BB as hard as you might think. You just have to slay one dragon, Kyle. The walk dragon. He looks like Ted Williams, wearing Bonds' elbow guard. Slay him with your awkwardness. A healthy Drabek would still be a good prospect. Doesn't really matter how he performs if he is never on the field. I expect about the same as someone like Dustin McGowan and hold out hope for a string of healthy seasons.
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