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The 5-foot-7 Southisene profiles as a hit-over-power middle infielder with plus speed. He has strong contact skills and rarely strikes out. His in-zone whiff rate is the lowest in the Cubs’ system, and he makes good swing decisions, though he is passive at times. Southisene doesn’t project to hit for much power. He produces fringe-average exit velocities and his batted ball angles are poor. Southisene has played primarily shortstop this season, but profiles best at second base due to below-average arm strength. He profiles as a potential contact and speed-oriented bench bat

LMAO

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49 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

I wish we just kept him and tried to win. That is a god awful trade. 

I could maybe get behind it if we hadn't done the Taillon deal, but that kind of makes this trade be of marginal benefit at best. I'd have greatly preferred to just keep Gausman and hope we can go on a run.

Atkins sure loves his no power slap hitters.

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I read an article about a month ago by Rosenthal or Passan? That most owners spoke with their GM's about the real threat of no baseball next season... and it's painfully obvious most are listening, there's not as much leverage as originally thought for sellers coming in to this deadline, the market has cratered, it probably would've been better to just stand pat or buy and go for it. 

In saying that, Gausman's gone now, so the Jays best sell everything they can with expiring contracts save for Bieber and tank so hard we fall in the bottom six teams for draft protection, we're currently ranked as the 7th worst team, tank you f*ckers, tank hard. And reboot in the winter. *sighs*

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13 hours ago, John_Havok said:

I get this weird feeling we are going to be very dissappointed in this trade deadline.

The way the season has gone so far, not getting rid of the pending FAs for eve 1 or 2 useful bodies would the the diarrhea frosting on an already sh*t filled cake.

Nailed it so far...

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55 minutes ago, sliderguy35 said:

dont love that the mets got a better package for 36 year old middle reliever huascar brazoban than we did for kevin gausman

What The Hell Wtf GIF

 

I was thinking the same thing, Davis looks like a coup for the Mets.

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8 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

I read an article about a month ago by Rosenthal or Passan? That most owners spoke with their GM's about the real threat of no baseball next season... and it's painfully obvious most are listening, there's not as much leverage as originally thought for sellers coming in to this deadline, the market has cratered, it probably would've been better to just stand pat or buy and go for it. 

In saying that, Gausman's gone now, so the Jays best sell everything they can with expiring contracts save for Bieber and tank so hard we fall in the bottom six teams for draft protection, we're currently ranked as the 7th worst team, tank you f*ckers, tank hard. And reboot in the winter. *sighs*

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Think ahead, Move enough contracts so we can be under the cap and maybe make a core free agent signing this winter. As most teams be up against cap. Most teams in playoff race can't cut contract 

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Holding on to Gausman and others hoping for the team to not only be good for 2 months but also for six teams ahead of them to suck simultaneously didn't make much sense. If the market really is this bad for sellers, then it's just bad luck that the Jays are sellers. Hopefully they can buy something today in addition to selling, but makes a lot more sense to try to duck the luxury tax penalties at this point. We don't know what the next CBA will look like but based on history you have to assume even if games are lost that it will be something resembling the one we have now rather than a salary cap, so work within that mindset. 

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1 minute ago, Terminator said:

Can we get under the luxury tax? I took a look at this a couple days ago and the math doesn’t seem possible. 

Why are you asking us if you "took a look at it" 

Ask Claude or Harvey or whatever 

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21 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Can we get under the luxury tax? I took a look at this a couple days ago and the math doesn’t seem possible. 

The luxury tax in general, probably not. The highest threshold I believe is the one that impact the first round pick falling 10 spots, so getting under that at a minimum should be the goal. 

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I hate the Nimmala trade as well.

I don’t see the mad rush to get a half a year of soriana that is useless to us basically and I really really like Nimmala as a prospect. 

Ugh… I’ll check back in after the lockout. 

 

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Just now, jmomcc said:

I hate the Nimmala trade as well.

I don’t see the mad rush to get a half a year of soriana that is useless to us basically and I really really like Nimmala as a prospect. 

Ugh… I’ll check back in after the lockout. 

 

2 1/2 years for Soriano.

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1 minute ago, Sorrow said:

2 1/2 years for Soriano.

Yes but part of the value is the rest of this year which if we traded Gausman we already basically gave up on. 

Just wait until the offseason and trade for the two years, 

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2 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Yes but part of the value is the rest of this year which if we traded Gausman we already basically gave up on. 

Just wait until the offseason and trade for the two years, 

But... someone else would trade for him

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Just now, jmomcc said:

Yes but part of the value is the rest of this year which if we traded Gausman we already basically gave up on. 

Just wait until the offseason and trade for the two years, 

Its kinda the prototypical Atkins move, trade for a guy that can help in 2 future years before the need arises. 

Not saying it's a great move eitehr, im kinda luke-warm on it, but this is pretty much the pitching equivalent of the Varsho trade

Posted
1 minute ago, jmomcc said:

Then trade for someone else. It doesn’t have to be Soriano. 

Not always an available guy 

Unless you the Yankees then the Marlins will always trade you some good MLB player for four org guys 

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3 minutes ago, Laika said:

Not always an available guy 

Unless you the Yankees then the Marlins will always trade you some good MLB player for four org guys 

Feels like this is probablt something Atkins has been working on and massaging for a while. No way something like this just comes together with 1 phone call on deadline day

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4 minutes ago, Laika said:

Not always an available guy 

Unless you the Yankees then the Marlins will always trade you some good MLB player for four org guys 

Yea but why trade for half a season for Soriano after trading Gausman? 

I just don’t get it. It’s also coloured by me being way higher on Nimmala than most people but god, like it’s been ten years. Can we develop enough of our own f***ing pitching already and stop signing every cast off from Cleveland to play up the middle? 

Like we have a shortstop with pop who likes a year away, but no it’s more Gimenez and more slap hitters. It’s annoying .
 

 

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Will be interesting to see how the rest of the day pans out now, Basically replaced Gausman with Soriano. You have Tallion in the mix now. Possibly they plan to shut down Trey early. It doesn’t really make much sense to trade Bieber. You actually just hope he pitches well down the strech and qualify him. Max didn’t want to pitch anywhere but Toronto apparently so will be interesting to see if his mind changed and or anyone would even trust him to acquire him.

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2 hours ago, glory said:

Holding on to Gausman and others hoping for the team to not only be good for 2 months but also for six teams ahead of them to suck simultaneously didn't make much sense. If the market really is this bad for sellers, then it's just bad luck that the Jays are sellers. Hopefully they can buy something today in addition to selling, but makes a lot more sense to try to duck the luxury tax penalties at this point. We don't know what the next CBA will look like but based on history you have to assume even if games are lost that it will be something resembling the one we have now rather than a salary cap, so work within that mindset. 

In typical Jays fashion, everything goes wrong. Seems like every time we are sellers we get screwed over with injuries or a bad market 

Posted

I don't even think Atkins knows where this team is going. Jays probably have the worst farm system in the majors now, very easily bottom 3. I guess it's going to be a half ass try to win now, oh well.

Posted
26 minutes ago, jmomcc said:

Yea but why trade for half a season for Soriano after trading Gausman? 

I just don’t get it. It’s also coloured by me being way higher on Nimmala than most people but god, like it’s been ten years. Can we develop enough of our own f***ing pitching already and stop signing every cast off from Cleveland to play up the middle? 

Like we have a shortstop with pop who likes a year away, but no it’s more Gimenez and more slap hitters. It’s annoying .
 

 

 

Soriano has two more years of team control, this was an early off season acquisition

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2 minutes ago, Pendleton said:

 

Soriano has two more years of team control, this was an early off season acquisition

Yea but part of the price is the rest of this season. 

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