Selling?

[Joltin Joe]

It's mid-June, Jays are 34-37. If things don't turn around soon we have to think about selling. Toronto should be able to move 75-100 million in contracts and add 6 or 7 prospects to stack our farm system. 

Gausman be the big fish. He should return two, if not three solid prospects. Springer we might get a B prospect for. Bieber could return a decent prospect. Varsho return should be good. Giminez if we lucky enough to move his contract. That's five, did I miss anybody? 

[Jays24]

This would be a valid convo if we were in the NL where wed be slightly above the Mets.  

We're like 1 game back in the AL Wild Card and the 2 teams holding a wild card spot are the.Athletics and White Sox.  If things stand closely to where we are now, we are 100% buyers.  

[SeranthonySantander]

trade Vlad, eat 1/2 the contract

[Buster]

6 hours ago, SeranthonySantander said:

trade Vlad, eat 1/2 the contract

Nobody is doing that deal.

[james jones]

The Vlad contract may become the worst contract in any sports.

[jmomcc]

There is absolutely no way I’d trade Vlad. 

But yea of course, if we are enough games out of the playoffs at the deadline we could sell. 

I’d guess any reliever with less than two years control, all expirings. So, Gausman, Springer, Varsho, Garcia, Bieber, and then probably guys like Nance.

Maybe someone like Jesus Sanchez as well? Might be valuable for a contender and has some control. 

[jaysblue]

Given how weak the AL has been, the Jays just need to get on a roll and they can cement themselves in one of the Wild Card spots.

And with the Yankees losing Judge long term, plus the possibility of the Rays cooling down, the AL East still isn’t completely out of the question. The Jays would obviously need to go on a big run to put themselves into that conversation, but if they can get within 4-5 games by the beginning of August, that would be a nice position to be in.

If they’re sitting in the third Wild Card spot, or only 1-2 games back, and their core guys are relatively healthy, they should probably add. I wouldn’t want them to just keep the status quo.

The only way they should sell is if they’re 5+ games back of the final Wild Card spot and dealing with several key injuries, which would make a comeback much harder to pull off. But if they’re still where they are now at the end of July (around 1.5 games back) I think they should add. Standing pat shouldn’t really be an option.

[glory]

If the Jays are in the exact same spot they are now a month from now (under .500, 1-2 games back of a WC spot), then they are 100% going to be buyers. Whether that would be the smart play is another story. 

As far as Vlad, I think doing a "Devers" style trade to off load him (preferably when his value is up a bit) would be the best long-term move they can make at some point over the next couple of years (before the decline starts to set in) but no chance it happens. Just have to figure out a way to build around him as you go year to year not knowing whether he's a 2-3 WAR player or a 6 WAR player. 

[Brownie19]

15 hours ago, james jones said:

The Vlad contract may become the worst contract in any sports.

Go away.

[Landry_25]

I really honestly think vladdy is battling through some s*** while also trying way too hard. Long WS run then WBC, also injuries to any hitters that could offer “protection” around him. Just kind of s*** on top of s*** on top of s*** overall. Definitely pressing too much. I think the contract overall will be just fine for a generational talent

we seem to get one piece back then 2 more get injured this year 

[Forever92]

On 6/14/2026 at 11:31 AM, Jays24 said:

This would be a valid convo if we were in the NL where wed be slightly above the Mets.  

We're like 1 game back in the AL Wild Card and the 2 teams holding a wild card spot are the.Athletics and White Sox.  If things stand closely to where we are now, we are 100% buyers.  

Jays not a good team though. Many holes. 

[Terminator]

Always buy and never sell (unless it's obvious)

[Eat My Shatkins]

They aren't selling when they're this close to a WC spot and the teams ahead of us aren't exactly juggernauts.

 

Jays still haven't had a single week all year with even 4/5ths of their best rotation healthy. Hell, a couple weeks ago all they had was 2/5ths of their rotation starting with two goddamn bullpen days in a 4 man rotation.

 

Well, this might be the first week we actually see it happen with Bieber returning, provided no one else gets injured. Hopefully it gives them a shot in the arm and they can get on a roll for the next month and a half.

I'd rather they SPEND some of the prospect capital they've built up and grab a guy like Buxton. His bat could really give the Jays offense a boost.

[james jones]

4 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Go away.

It's his first season of the massive contract and check his stat right now dude.

Who gives $500M to a 1B with Luis Arraez offensive stat?

[Forever92]

On 6/14/2026 at 11:57 AM, SeranthonySantander said:

trade Vlad, eat 1/2 the contract

Giminez be harder to move. 23 million for next three years

[jaysblue]

3 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I'd rather they SPEND some of the prospect capital they've built up and grab a guy like Buxton. His bat could really give the Jays offense a boost.

Or Yordan!

[jaysblue]

3 hours ago, james jones said:

It's his first season of the massive contract and check his stat right now dude.

Who gives $500M to a 1B with Luis Arraez offensive stat?

Agreed. Vlad has been a huge disappointment so far in 2026, and the people who had concerns about his consistency when the Jays handed him that contract weren’t wrong. Those concerns were legitimate.

That said, I’m not going to judge the entire contract based on 2.5 months and call it one of the worst in sports. A hot one- or two-week stretch could change the look of his numbers in a hurry. You just have to hope Vladdy still has a couple of 5-6 WAR seasons in him, which he’s definitely capable of. Anything less would be disappointing, though.

[james jones]

1 hour ago, jaysblue said:

Agreed. Vlad has been a huge disappointment so far in 2026, and the people who had concerns about his consistency when the Jays handed him that contract weren’t wrong. Those concerns were legitimate.

That said, I’m not going to judge the entire contract based on 2.5 months and call it one of the worst in sports. A hot one- or two-week stretch could change the look of his numbers in a hurry. You just have to hope Vladdy still has a couple of 5-6 WAR seasons in him, which he’s definitely capable of. Anything less would be disappointing, though.

I hope so. He'd better bounce back before the season is out of reach like the 2024 season.

I don't want to see him have another stat padding season like 2024.

[jaysthebest]

I hope we sell before it's too late

[Bob_Gratton]

On 6/14/2026 at 10:22 AM, Joltin Joe said:

It's mid-June, Jays are 34-37. If things don't turn around soon we have to think about selling. Toronto should be able to move 75-100 million in contracts and add 6 or 7 prospects to stack our farm system. 

Gausman be the big fish. He should return two, if not three solid prospects. Springer we might get a B prospect for. Bieber could return a decent prospect. Varsho return should be good. Giminez if we lucky enough to move his contract. That's five, did I miss anybody? 

I will prefer to sign Gausman for a 2 years extensions, unless Atkins make a trade for someone like Webb, Skubal, Skenes or Peralta. But guys like Springer, Hoffman, Santander, Gimenez, Bieber, Straw, Schneider, Corbin, yes should trade them. I will keep Jesus, Barger, Miles, Lukes, unless they are part of a big trade that bring a star player in Toronto.

[Bob_Gratton]

2 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Agreed. Vlad has been a huge disappointment so far in 2026, and the people who had concerns about his consistency when the Jays handed him that contract weren’t wrong. Those concerns were legitimate.

That said, I’m not going to judge the entire contract based on 2.5 months and call it one of the worst in sports. A hot one- or two-week stretch could change the look of his numbers in a hurry. You just have to hope Vladdy still has a couple of 5-6 WAR seasons in him, which he’s definitely capable of. Anything less would be disappointing, though.

He's probably injured since beginnig of the season, but still playing.

[SeranthonySantander]

just hope some of these guys pull a wander Franco and then you don't have to eat any money and don't have to pay a cent.  The rays office was probably pissing their pants with joy when that stuff went down.  Sure Wander was doing well as a player, but I'm sure the Rays still regretted handing out that contract the second after they signed it.

[Forever92]

On 6/15/2026 at 8:46 PM, SeranthonySantander said:

just hope some of these guys pull a wander Franco and then you don't have to eat any money and don't have to pay a cent.  The rays office was probably pissing their pants with joy when that stuff went down.  Sure Wander was doing well as a player, but I'm sure the Rays still regretted handing out that contract the second after they signed it.

He's probably be a star by now. It was terrible on all accounts 

[Spanky__99]

On 6/14/2026 at 10:22 AM, Joltin Joe said:

It's mid-June, Jays are 34-37. If things don't turn around soon we have to think about selling. Toronto should be able to move 75-100 million in contracts and add 6 or 7 prospects to stack our farm system. 

Gausman be the big fish. He should return two, if not three solid prospects. Springer we might get a B prospect for. Bieber could return a decent prospect. Varsho return should be good. Giminez if we lucky enough to move his contract. That's five, did I miss anybody? 

Buckle up... 😅

[Spanky__99]

On 6/15/2026 at 4:31 PM, Forever92 said:

Giminez be harder to move. 23 million for next three years

Gimenez will have 3 WAR seasons with his defense alone it's not bad value.

[Forever92]

On 6/24/2026 at 1:37 PM, Spanky__99 said:

Gimenez will have 3 WAR seasons with his defense alone it's not bad value.

Selling at deadline is picking up steam 

[Forever92]

Nance traded, selling has begun. How it works out as good as Varland trade. Or Biggio trade

[Eat My Shatkins]

33 minutes ago, Forever92 said:

Nance traded, selling has begun. How it works out as good as Varland trade. Or Biggio trade

The Jays may sell (I doubt it) but either way, this trade doesn't really signify a sell off.

[John_Havok]

5 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

The Jays may sell (I doubt it) but either way, this trade doesn't really signify a sell off.

Exactly. If anything it just means a different arm is probably ready to come off the IL and they wanted to capitalize on a team whos pen is so bad adding a 0.0 war arm is an improvement

[jaysblue]

Ross Atkins at the trade deadline: