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Posted
17 hours ago, thatoneguy said:

I don't understand what he found last post-season and now can't replicate.

Only 7 games but he has a 60% ground ball rate and isn't hitting the ball as hard as usual. 

ha ha.  It is what is always has been.  Hopefully he hits one hard in the air eventually.  As an outsider I don't understand it and never will. 

1.  Historic minor league stats, best ever in Blue Jays history .400 average in double a as a teenager.

2. Historically high hard hit rate and more hard it balls in play than any other player this decade.

3. Two historic performances in homerun derby showing generational power tool.

4.  Given 80 hit grade tool by scouts maybe only one ever.

5.  18 playoff games against best teams and pitching in the game hitting .350 .500 .700 or something.

6.  4 month stretches hitting .340 .440 .650 in 2021 and 2024.

7.  By all metrics 99.99th percentile raw hitting tools on par with Frank Thomas and Albert Pujols.

8. Randomly hits .250 with a 55% ground ball rate weeks at a time preventing generational multi year numbers.  

Posted
59 minutes ago, Laika said:

Ponce dead 

Kirk broken thumb 

Lost 3 of 4 to the worst teams in baseball history 

Things are NOT okay 

Yesavage probably gets rocked (haven't looked yet) and needs two Tommy Johns.

Patrick Corbin healthy, very healthy, 5.77 ERA though.

Life is short.  Life is brutal.  Life is disappointing, the sun does shine occasionally, but when the clouds come back it makes it all the worse. 

The NY Mets and the Toronto Blue Jays are the same.  I was talking to my friend about this the other night.  Very similar.  Can have awesome years.  Have big payrolls.  Are in big cities.  Have awesome TV contracts and awesome fans.  They both go into most years looking golden with so much excitement.  They have their moments but then they can win 71 with a horrible effort out of nowhere.  Maybe that is every team, but it doesn't happen to the Dodgers or Yankees it seems.  The small market teams are what they are.  Jays and Mets though.  Teach kids not to have hope.  Enjoy the good when it comes, but never have hope.  

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Posted

literal zero depth on the offensive side it seems. Not sure what the plan is although I guess santander getting injured kind of threw a wrench into things. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, bones said:

literal zero depth on the offensive side it seems. Not sure what the plan is although I guess santander getting injured kind of threw a wrench into things. 

Last year you could say the same.  Barger, Clement, Schneider, Lukes came through.  Still have similar at Buffalo.  Jiminez, Kasevitch, Mcadoo, Schrek a few others.  

Not saying any them are anything, but no one new Clement or Barger, maybe that just got lucky that second tier prospects/journey men worked out last year, and you can't count on it again. 

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Posted

Okamoto is a pumpkin 

Vlad is singles only again 

Barger lost it 

Is the magic gone?

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Posted
40 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Yesavage probably gets rocked (haven't looked yet) and needs two Tommy Johns.

Patrick Corbin healthy, very healthy, 5.77 ERA though.

Life is short.  Life is brutal.  Life is disappointing, the sun does shine occasionally, but when the clouds come back it makes it all the worse. 

The NY Mets and the Toronto Blue Jays are the same.  I was talking to my friend about this the other night.  Very similar.  Can have awesome years.  Have big payrolls.  Are in big cities.  Have awesome TV contracts and awesome fans.  They both go into most years looking golden with so much excitement.  They have their moments but then they can win 71 with a horrible effort out of nowhere.  Maybe that is every team, but it doesn't happen to the Dodgers or Yankees it seems.  The small market teams are what they are.  Jays and Mets though.  Teach kids not to have hope.  Enjoy the good when it comes, but never have hope.  

Ughh... you're going to start this sh*t again, the Yankees won 74 just the other year or something like that you dingleberry.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Laika said:

Okamoto is a pumpkin 

Vlad is singles only again 

Barger lost it 

Is the magic gone?

The bait is too much, guy. Just sayin.... 🤷‍♂️

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Posted
44 minutes ago, bones said:

literal zero depth on the offensive side it seems. Not sure what the plan is although I guess santander getting injured kind of threw a wrench into things. 

There's all kinds of depth?

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Posted

How long before Patrick Corbin's contract is likely selected as a back end starter or long man?

And will it be before Yesavage is ready or not?

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Posted
2 hours ago, Jays24 said:

From too many starters to Patrick Corbin coming to save the day loll.  Seriously though, good that theyre being proactive.  Now use that proactive attitude towards our offense. 

It should have been obvious as f*** that our offense + our closer was going to be our biggest weakness, and so far its been our offense + Little.  

Yeah obviously replacing Bo with Okamoto was guaranteed to change the Blue Jays offense from the best in MLB to a below average group. Do you ever take a moment to think before you post this garbage? And you are also saying that the closer who presently sports a 1.93 ERA/1.22 FIP with 21.2 K/9 is a massive weakness? Today's game is anyone but Hoffman's fault as the third out was thrown away by the catcher.

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Posted
37 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

How long before Patrick Corbin's contract is likely selected as a back end starter or long man?

And will it be before Yesavage is ready or not?

No one can answer either question. Yesavage should be a couple weeks. That signing was a Million dollar insurance plan.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, max silver said:

Yeah obviously replacing Bo with Okamoto was guaranteed to change the Blue Jays offense from the best in MLB to a below average group. Do you ever take a moment to think before you post this garbage? And you are also saying that the closer who presently sports a 1.93 ERA/1.22 FIP with 21.2 K/9 is a massive weakness? Today's game is anyone but Hoffman's fault as the third out was thrown away by the catcher.

Him think???

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

No one can answer either question. Yesavage should be a couple weeks. That signing was a Million dollar insurance plan.

Yeah was a crystal ball question 

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Posted
1 hour ago, max silver said:

Yeah obviously replacing Bo with Okamoto was guaranteed to change the Blue Jays offense from the best in MLB to a below average group. Do you ever take a moment to think before you post this garbage? And you are also saying that the closer who presently sports a 1.93 ERA/1.22 FIP with 21.2 K/9 is a massive weakness? Today's game is anyone but Hoffman's fault as the third out was thrown away by the catcher.

I said coming into the season Hoffman and our offense were seen as our biggest question marks.  Then I CLEARLY said its actually been our offense + Little  thus far.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

You're the first to mention it, nice little depth move on Saturday, I like it.

We were all too busy arguing about whether the Jays will be losing 95 games or 100 games

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Posted

The nightmare continues 

Springer is broken again (this one was expected)

None of Varsho or Little or any other player's spring improvements were real 

Barger has a torn meniscus 

Lauer has mono 

Okamoto can't hit outside velo at all 

Clement is showing his flaws and will only get worse (age)

Heineman is a AAA player after all. Same for Lukes. 

Issa 85 win team 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Laika said:

The nightmare continues 

Springer is broken again (this one was expected)

None of Varsho or Little or any other player's spring improvements were real 

Barger has a torn meniscus 

Lauer has mono 

Okamoto can't hit outside velo at all 

Clement is showing his flaws and will only get worse (age)

Heineman is a AAA player after all. Same for Lukes. 

Issa 85 win team 

Would be hilarious to win 85 games and the WS with this s*** squad 

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Laika said:

The nightmare continues 

Springer is broken again (this one was expected)

None of Varsho or Little or any other player's spring improvements were real 

Barger has a torn meniscus 

Lauer has mono 

Okamoto can't hit outside velo at all 

Clement is showing his flaws and will only get worse (age)

Heineman is a AAA player after all. Same for Lukes. 

Issa 85 win team 

The sad thing is you're probably right on most of these things.  I sure hope we get to spend another 153 complaining about it and randomly blaming people for this outcome when we really have no f*cking idea why it happened.  That's my favourite part.

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